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[feldinor]

Hey guys,

I played Bronze so far, which goes decently fine. But kinda afraid to move to Silver. I got a decent amount of uncommon upgrades, but that doesn't make me a good player. Theoretically, I know what to do, but I still make stupid mistakes at times and it's not uncommon for me to get myself killed by doing something silly.

So, how much harder is Silver really? What would I need to be able to win Silver, assuming my skills aren't too amazing? I don't want to let my team down or underperform, especially since it doesn't help anyone (including myself).

Cheers!

[Die_Katz]

Well... just try.. It's not that hard

[CaspianRoach]

A decent level character (at least 10 is recommended), a proper weapon (95% of the times you want a single weapon only) and understandment of how your abilities work. What class do you like to play?

[DalantiaSilverwing]

I've finished a few gold, and a lot of silver, and I still make silly mistakes.

In general, I start poking at Silver around level 10ish, with a few III-V common or uncommon weapons that I've found I like.

[Apocsapel91]

Whenever you feel comfortable with your character. Just remember, everyone makes stupid mistakes sometimes. Like charging a banshee and getting insta-killed.

[feldinor]

CaspianRoach wrote...

A decent level character (at least 10 is recommended), a proper weapon (95% of the times you want a single weapon only) and understandment of how your abilities work. What class do you like to play?

I like my lev20 Quarian Engineer most. She's equipped with a Phaeston II.

[marmot 1333]

Like these other people said, silver is OK for a character about level 10 as long as you have a decent weapon.

I would advise leveling up at least the first two levels of fitness for the health & shields bonus.

Try to play defensively; use cover & try to stay on high ground; stay near your teammates so you can revive them & vice-versa.

Edit: Silver seems to pay about 2x as many credits and maybe 1.5x the amount of XP so it's a lot better for buying packs & leveling your characters.

Modifié par marmot 1333, 25 mars 2012 - 02:25 .

[Kloreep]

I'd say a level 12 or so character is a good minimum for jumping into silver. That said, you apparently have at least one class at level 20 already. I wouldn't have any reservations about trying silver with a 20.

marmot 1333 wrote...

stay near your teammates so you can revive them & vice-versa.

This is definitely the biggest difference moving up in difficulty. On Bronze, a good player with a leveled-up character can often get away with doing whatever the heck they want and soloing off in some corner. On Silver, you at least need to stick to each other in pairs to prevent things from suddenly falling apart.

[CaspianRoach]

feldinor wrote...

CaspianRoach wrote...

A decent level character (at least 10 is recommended), a proper weapon (95% of the times you want a single weapon only) and understandment of how your abilities work. What class do you like to play?

I like my lev20 Quarian Engineer most. She's equipped with a Phaeston II.

It's harder to be efficient as Quarian Engineer at silver, all the enemies have more HP and thus it's much harder to set up your elemental combos (Cryo then Incin to kill the target for Ice explosion and the Fire combo requires death of the target as well). Even though you will be fine against say, Reapers; Cerberus and Geth will annoy the hell out of you with their shields you can do nothing about. I'd suggest going Salarian or Human engineer for that since both have shield removal and Incinerate. Sentry turret is not that great either, Combat Drone outperforms it easily and Decoy messes with Geth so much it's ridiculous.
If you're committed to playing quarian I'd suggest sticking around other players and equipping Disruptor Ammo when you're going against Geth. When they're electrified you can Incinerate them for Tech Burst that does nice damage to multiple targets.

Phaeston is not a good choice for a silver unless you have armor piercing mod and/or armor piercing ammo (they stack). Monster armor subtracts a flat amount of damage from each shot so the lower damage your gun does with each shot the worse. I also don't remember the weight of the gun but I'd suggest leveling up your Avenger to level X by buying a lot of Recruit packs since it weighs so little you can have 200% power recharge bonus easily. And that's what you want as engineer, to be able to spam powers left and right.

Modifié par CaspianRoach, 25 mars 2012 - 02:29 .

[R1cky Da Man 19]

The biggest differance for the quari engi is that cryo/incinerate isnt as effective more times than not you need to cryo pop a few rounds in em and then incinerate to ensure an explosion...

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

I only did Bronze until Operation Goliath. Then I tried silver for the first time. Enemies are less forgiving, so if you focus and concentrate more on the goal than on kills, you should be fine. I took a level 20 Krogan solider and a level 20 asari adept into silver, so it's possible that increased my chances.

If you have a 20 engineer, I think you're going to be perfectly fine. Yes, you'll get killed a couple times until you get a better sense of how the enemies hit and how your weapons hit the enemy, but that's the same thing that happens to everyone when they start playing bronze. You'll be fine!

[CaspianRoach]

You can read more on in-depth mechanics here:

http://social.biowar...7/index/9822648

and here is a list of possible elemental combos:
http://social.biowar...3/index/9629730

You need to know these to be efficient at silver and gold. Well, not so much at silver, but most definitely at gold.

Modifié par CaspianRoach, 25 mars 2012 - 02:35 .

[Elite3141]

CaspianRoach wrote...

A decent level character (at least 10 is recommended), a proper weapon (95% of the times you want a single weapon only) and understandment of how your abilities work. What class do you like to play?

I enter Silver to level up my characters from 1 after promoting them. You really don't need to worry about proper weapons or levels on Silver; I frequently use weapons like the Avenger for its low cooldown times, or the Mantis because I forget to switch to the Widow.

As long as you stay with teammates you'll be fine. I hate lone wolf teammates with a passion. Oh, and don't use missiles on every Atlas, Banshee, Brute, Geth Prime, etc. There's too many for you to missile them all, and it's annoying seeing people think they can use a missile on Wave 5 on an Atlas with 3 bars of health left, only to have them run out when it really matters. If you actually shoot at them you'd be surprised at how fast they go down.

And finally, don't use more than one weapon on classes that depend heavily on their powers, like Vanguards and Adepts. Your cooldown rate is more important than your weapons.

[CaspianRoach]

Elite3141 wrote...

I enter Silver to level up my characters from 1 after promoting them. You really don't need to worry about proper weapons or levels on Silver; I frequently use weapons like the Avenger for its low cooldown times, or the Mantis because I forget to switch to the Widow.

Avenger X and Mantis X are good weapons for silver. Starting silver from level 1 is just taking the ****** though for the caster characters as your powers are not evolved and do little to none damage and your combos are tons weaker. It's disrepectful towards your teammates because they will have to carry you through the match

Modifié par CaspianRoach, 25 mars 2012 - 02:43 .

[veramis]

You need a good team that actually know how to do mission objectives to do silver. Play with leechers or newbies and it can really make silver a living hell. I've played silver games where I had 90k+ score and we still lost because the other players were that bad.

[DryR]

when you want more xp/credits per match.

[LadyAlekto]

As one who thinks her team will loose whenever i get top score (or rather whenever my temper lets me assault the enemys in the most inappropiate time)

If you go first for silver, do cerberus, run from atlas, use ap ammo/mod to pwn guardians (if youre too lazy to aim for the slit) and revive anyone near you and best stay near the team, concentrate fire, keep your head down when it gets hot and learn to run like a ****

[nuclearpengu1nn]

If you can survive the whole missions without dying or at least once or if you can carry your own weight. Really, as long as you can carry you own, you can play silver. Although, your silver team would have to be good. I find that no matter how good of a player you are, if your team sucks balls, you'll fail the mission. The key to any difficulty (bronze/silver/gold) is team work, not "must get high score and kill all mother****ers."

[ttchip]

If you get reliably through Bronze, you'll be good enough for a bumpy ride through Silver. Once you adapt to the new difficulty, you'll do fine.

It really isn't that hard...

Modifié par ttchip, 25 mars 2012 - 02:49 .

[HolyAvenger]

Just give it a go, see how you find it.

[Elite3141]

CaspianRoach wrote...

Elite3141 wrote...

I enter Silver to level up my characters from 1 after promoting them. You really don't need to worry about proper weapons or levels on Silver; I frequently use weapons like the Avenger for its low cooldown times, or the Mantis because I forget to switch to the Widow.

Avenger X and Mantis X are good weapons for silver. Starting silver from level 1 is just taking the ****** though for the caster characters as your powers are not evolved and do little to none damage and your combos are tons weaker. It's disrepectful towards your teammates because they will have to carry you through the match

Silver really isn't that difficult. If you can sit back and use your weapons on things like Assault Troops until you've leveled up, you're still contributing to the team. You'd no doubt be contributing more if you were a higher level, but you're still not dead-weight. Especially since, in my experience, most randoms only focus on the larger boss enemies while they get slaughtered by Assault Troops. Taking care of the basic units is a great service to the team, and you don't need power-spam or rare weapons to do that.

But I guess it all boils down to what your team is using. If they already have two people for crowd control, then a level 1 caster class will be dead-weight. But, again, I hardly see any randoms doing crowd control.

Modifié par Elite3141, 25 mars 2012 - 02:54 .

[Echo Six Grimez]

veramis wrote...

You need a good team that actually know how to do mission objectives to do silver. Play with leechers or newbies and it can really make silver a living hell. I've played silver games where I had 90k+ score and we still lost because the other players were that bad.

This.

I can't even begin to imagine how many Silver Challengers I've lost leading with around 70k and then when the ''Eliminate High Profile Targets'' objective comes along everyone except me decides to go lonewolf and take care of the target themselves.

Without any medigel and their powers dwindling their fate is quickly sealed and It's left upto me to try and take on the remaining forces. I'm pretty good at fending for myself but It's better to have team members rolling along side you survival wise.

Even if they do actually manage to survive, the timer runs out simply because they aren't strong enough to bring down the target. Most of the time It's banshees i face so you can imagine what she would do to low level (not rank) N7 operatives even with me spamming overload / incin (maxed out), she just smiles and keeps on coming.

''Mission failed... Returning Home'' - becomes a highlight of the match.

Like many have already said having a full team with the right abilities is vital to success, it has nothing to do with N7 Rank but having a low level say Human Engie / Salerian Infil can drastically change the game rules.

Modifié par Echo Six Grimez, 25 mars 2012 - 03:11 .

[Cuthlan]

I found the jump from Bronze to Silver near release to be a bigger shock than the jump from Silver to Gold.

Just try it. Be conservative at first until you get a feel for it.

[Asaghon]

It all boils down to what kind of group you end up in. A silver game with a good group can be easier than a bronze game with 3 vanguards in every corner of the map.