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[Baronesa]

I would have preferred for Tali to go Lesb... Ashley... ughh... nope... her bigoted remarks on ME were enough for me to dislike her permanently.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Nugralsa1 wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Nugralsa1 wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

No.

Really, I think Femshep has enough lesbian romances. She needs more hetero ones. Girls actually play your games, Bioware. Straight ones!

Well..really only lesbian romance for femshep is traynor O.o (Asari is not lesbian imo).The rest of them are all interspecies/straight romance.Maleshep got more gay relationship i think.

I can't believe people actually think that Liara/FemShep isn't lesbian. Asari are female.

I think asari/femshep is just interspecies. Gay or lesbian meant something when we got something like man/man or female/female.

Asari are described as an all-female race. Each asari is referred to as "she". They are female. A female of any species with an asari is lesbian.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 25 mars 2012 - 04:30 .

[Quintus Kessler]

Baihu1983 wrote...

I belive Shep even gets to call her up on being racist in 1? She was more pissed off with Cerberus for their testing on humans and being too extreme

In Mass Effect, on the citadel, there's an extreme human political party that wants to seize all control of the citadel. Ashley states that they're racists. 

And Ashley doesn't hate aliens. She hates everyone. That's why I fricking love her.

[Pappi]

Good, when everyone was bisexual in DAII it was weird. Besides, there are loads of lesbian choices already

[Zhuinden]

RedNanaki wrote...

Ashley's a Christian, so it would arguably go against her character.

Also to avoid potential ****storm. Just imagine FOX reporting on this... Christian turns gay in video game? Uh oh.

Hey, Kaidan said back in the day with the Liara Romance Conflict that he just doesn't swing in a way that a three-some would be acceptable.
I really wouldn't think he'd be in for SS romance.

[Orthodox Infidel]

luukee wrote...

I don't think Kaidan just "turned" gay on a whim, and it was never stated anywhere in previous games that he wasn't bi.

Well, they wouldn't state he wasn't bi, simply because it's not necessary. I don't mean in a narrative sense, I mean in ever. I think that the only time you would ever have to do that in reality is if you woke up after a bender and found out you did something you were embarassed by.

hedara90 wrote...

I felt they hinted that Kaidan was bi in ME1.

They did? He's waaay more awkward around and interested in FemShep in ME1 than he is around ManShep. Plus he was only caught doing "Art Appreciation" of Liara. And even in ME3 he only seems to be into women or Shepard. It's possible he's the kind of bisexual who prefers one gender most of the time, but I don't know how common that is among bisexual men.

[Orthodox Infidel]

Quintus Kessler wrote...

Baihu1983 wrote...

I belive Shep even gets to call her up on being racist in 1? She was more pissed off with Cerberus for their testing on humans and being too extreme

In Mass Effect, on the citadel, there's an extreme human political party that wants to seize all control of the citadel. Ashley states that they're racists. 

And Ashley doesn't hate aliens. She hates everyone. That's why I fricking love her.

Yeah, Ashley isn't racist. She's cynical, and I think a lot of that cynicism is perfectly legitimate.

People who make the "she's racist" argument usually forget that the Turians wanted to make humanity go extinct less than thirty years before the first game, and there are many examples of alien races doing horrible things to other alien races. Her "sick your dog" analogy perfectly describes what the Salarians did to the Krogan, and the Dalatress in ME3 is proof that at least some powerful Salarians actually think this way. If anything, ParaShep trusts aliens a little too much. 

Modifié par Orthodox Infidel, 25 mars 2012 - 04:43 .

[Giguelingueling]

RedNanaki wrote...

Ashley's a Christian, so it would arguably go against her character.

Also to avoid potential ****storm. Just imagine FOX reporting on this... Christian turns gay in video game? Uh oh.

Being hetero in the first game and turning bi in the third can also potentially go against the charactere 

Modifié par Giguelingueling, 25 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[VettoRyouzou]

RedNanaki wrote...

Ashley's a Christian, so it would arguably go against her character.

Also to avoid potential ****storm. Just imagine FOX reporting on this... Christian turns gay in video game? Uh oh.

There... are Gay Christians, I know it a shocker to most people.

[Canned Bullets]

RedNanaki wrote...

Ashley's a Christian, so it would arguably go against her character.

Also to avoid potential ****storm. Just imagine FOX reporting on this... Christian turns gay in video game? Uh oh.

Yeah, also the scene where the kid died at the beginning was supposed to be a lot worse than his shuttle getting shot down. EA just forced Bioware to change the kid scene.

[Blackmind1]

 Well, they aren't simply male and female versions of the same person.

[AntiDave]

Sparatus wrote...

No.

Really, I think Femshep has enough lesbian romances. She needs more hetero ones. Girls actually play your games, Bioware. Straight ones!

And this is why I've grown to hate Bioware. Trying to please selfg-proclaimed 'feminists'. One day there will bve no entertainment left tailored exclusively to men because once a woman says she likes a series that automatically means that it needs to be adapated to her standards.

Femshep is already anorexic and unattractive so women got what they wanted.: More less attractive women in videogames but loads of muscular men.

That aside I support romantic equality for the VS. Either bisexual for both or no sexy time at all.

Bioware's facial-scanning technology failed to transfer any attractivity above the chest that IGN's little embedded drone might have had botoxed in real life. Also all that you can have with her is like a night in your cabin, there is little romantic plot related to this Jersey Shore dropout.

Edit: Fox News might really be the reason for that being so

Canned Bullets wrote...

RedNanaki wrote...

Ashley's a Christian, so it would arguably go against her character.

Also to avoid potential ****storm. Just imagine FOX reporting on this... Christian turns gay in video game? Uh oh.

Yeah,
also the scene where the kid died at the beginning was supposed to be a
lot worse than his shuttle getting shot down. EA just forced Bioware to
change the kid scene.

It's really time that we set up more development companies in north-western Europe where catholic or other religious fanatics can't meddle with our games.

Modifié par AntiDave, 25 mars 2012 - 04:53 .

[ScotGaymer]

JasonPogo wrote...

Just wondering.  I have seen on the frums that Kaiden will ask if you are flirting with him if you are maleShep?  Can you romance him as a MaleShep?   And what about Ash can you romance her at all if you are FemShep??

Because Kaidan makes sense bisexual. Ashley doesn't.

Plus there are already 2 lesbian FemShep options. Liara and Traynor. And 2 options for gay ManShep, Kaidan and Cortez.

[AntiDave]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Just wondering.  I have seen on the frums that Kaiden will ask if you are flirting with him if you are maleShep?  Can you romance him as a MaleShep?   And what about Ash can you romance her at all if you are FemShep??

Because Kaidan makes sense bisexual. Ashley doesn't.

Plus there are already 2 lesbian FemShep options. Liara and Traynor. And 2 options for gay ManShep, Kaidan and Cortez.

Liara is not a lesbian option, she is monogendered.

[Dasha Dreyson]

VettoRyouzou wrote...
There... are Gay Christians, I know it a shocker to most people.

This. They aren't mutually exclusive despite what some groups say.

I actually felt like Ashley being bi made a lot of sense. My hubby and I used to snicker every time Ashley said ma'am at the end of conversations in ME1. There was just too much tension in the way she said it.

[MACharlie1]

AntiDave wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Just wondering.  I have seen on the frums that Kaiden will ask if you are flirting with him if you are maleShep?  Can you romance him as a MaleShep?   And what about Ash can you romance her at all if you are FemShep??

Because Kaidan makes sense bisexual. Ashley doesn't.

Plus there are already 2 lesbian FemShep options. Liara and Traynor. And 2 options for gay ManShep, Kaidan and Cortez.

Liara is not a lesbian option, she is monogendered.

From Liara's asari perspective - no. It is not a lesbian option.

From a human perspecive, it is a lesbian one because Liara possesses all the traits of an attractive woman - albeit blue and with head tentacles. 

[Tom Jolly]

 This makes sense... Ash is religious.

[Gemini1179]

I like the idea of the 'herosexual', then the player crafts the story as they want. A character isn't bi if they're only interested in you unless there is some external evidence that they are linked to another sex, a la Isabela, Leliana or Zevran or an Asari. If the romance arcs are clearly indicated through dialogue, it should be easy enough to start or avoid them if that is your perogative and you don't have to worry about "everyone is bi, it doesn't make sense.".

Whether or not both Hale and Meer read each other's dialogue, it still poses the question as to why in LotSB they even have the Liara and FemShep dialogue concerning Tali, Jack and Miranda as LI's for femShep in there 6 months after the game was released.

[Kilshrek]

Sainta117 wrote...

Yeah, I know, but I thought it was funnier my way...

Sorry, joke-dar was off at that time.

[chester013]

Perhaps we are missing the obvious here. I think Ash just loves wang.

Modifié par chester013, 25 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[bazeebies]

AntiDave wrote...

And this is why I've grown to hate Bioware. Trying to please selfg-proclaimed 'feminists'. One day there will bve no entertainment left tailored exclusively to men because once a woman says she likes a series that automatically means that it needs to be adapated to her standards.

Femshep is already anorexic and unattractive so women got what they wanted.: More less attractive women in videogames but loads of muscular men.

No idea what you're talking about here, unless you're trolling for a reaction or just a misogynist, but I'll bite anyway..

I'm a woman, and a feminist (how can a woman not be a feminist?), and I think FemShep (especially in ME3) has a far too slim frame for the badass soldier she is supposed to be. Her sparring with Vega looked ridiculous and her arms were tiny. I was also pretty confused by the new ME3 default female character face (I had kept myself spoiler free prior, didn't realise they'd had a big PR thing over it) because she suddenly looked 10 years younger and 10x weirder than the previous, normal looking woman.

Your complaint about muscular men is misguided; these characters are supposed to be in the military, they're supposed to be athletic and strong.

I think a lot more of the FemShep content was put in to please male players who opted to play her than it was to get female players really happy.. Did you even see the ME3 dress?

[deadshame]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Not that I'm saying FemSheps shouldn't have more options. Hell, we should have more, because we're cooler.

Hahahaha, no, as much as I want Tali as FemShep LI, no other gender deserves more options because the other is "Cooler"

Yes we do. If FemShep ever met ManShep she would knock him the hell over, yo.

Maybe on to a bed.

Sleeping with your alternate reality self? I see no problem with this

This. They're the same person! Would that count as masturbation?  Go watch Sliders!