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[X2-Elijah]

Unlocked the Saber assault Rifle. Yay....? Actually, no. I completely don't get it's point. Okay, it has a decent-ish damage. But. It fires only one bullet per trigger-squeeze. It has an INSANE kick-back, even with the stability mod. And it has pretty low ammunition amount and high weight. And it is an AR, so even when you put a scope on it, it doesn't benefit from any of the sniper bonuses (and does pretty bad daage compared to most snipers).

What is that thing meant for? And how are you supposed to use it effectively? I mean, it is so far removed from the concept of assault rifle (spray-n-pray covering burst fire) it's not even funny.

[Rifneno]

Assault rifles suck. True story.

[Tangster]

Headshots. The time between shots is more than enough for you to line up another headshot, even with it's recoil. It get much more effective at higher levels.
Also I find it accurate enough that it doesn't need a scope.

It's not the most effective headshotting weapon, so if you're an power efficiency freak pick something else.

Modifié par Tangster, 25 mars 2012 - 04:04 .

[Shadow of Terror]

Because all the Assault Rifles suck, and the only one that didn't was the Falcon, and they soon changed that.

[Elite3141]

Max out headshot damage and you can kill the basic assault unit with a single headshot on Silver, and 2 headshots on something like a Centurion. It's obviously meant for classes that don't depend on their powers much. And firing while in cover greatly reduces its recoil.

[Ashen One]

Use it with a precision scope V, and a piercing mod V in the hands of a turian.

[Dillon79]

headshot damage turian soldier and learn how to aim without a scope. this gun with damage and armor piercing will take out pyros in 3-4 shots on gold. the reason its not as powerful as a sniper is because its lighter and has 9 bullets per clip. adrenaline rush works out really well. also try to only hit headshots, even if it lowers your fire rate alot

[Fyurian2]

Armour piercing mod and scope are good on it.
I've only got the Mk1 Saber, but it's beastly nonetheless.

Assault rifle amp or swapping the armour piercing for barrel (if I ever get one for assault rifles) will doubtless make it more beastly.
Throw in a decent amount of Adrenaline Rush (and Carnage if Krogan or BF3 Soldier) and I've taken Brutes, Banshees and Atlases on my own on Silver.

I'm also using a Mk9 Phalanx with armour piercing mod and barrel Mk5 as a backup weapon.

Aside from the Saber's weight, low ammo and recoil, I do have to lead a moving target a bit more since it seems to have a slight delay between presing fire and actually firing.

[Plague Metal]

We only recently received the Saber. It was put on our Turian Soldier class, and proved a monumental success while using Marksman. Once the fire rate was increased, the damage output, and accuracy improvement allowed for greater use of the rifle.

[Drummernate]

This platform has seen great success utilizing this weapon.

It is what the Viper Sniper Rifle should have been like.

Combined with pierce mod V and Barrel V it can take 1 bar off each shot on a Atlas.

[DryR]

It's a great sniper rifle for bronze and silver with the scope. It loses a lot of it's value on gold except for human soldiers. It isn't as good as the valiant, though.

[Sevrun]

X2-Elijah wrote...

Unlocked the Saber assault Rifle. Yay....? Actually, no. I completely don't get it's point. Okay, it has a decent-ish damage. But. It fires only one bullet per trigger-squeeze. It has an INSANE kick-back, even with the stability mod. And it has pretty low ammunition amount and high weight. And it is an AR, so even when you put a scope on it, it doesn't benefit from any of the sniper bonuses (and does pretty bad daage compared to most snipers).

What is that thing meant for? And how are you supposed to use it effectively? I mean, it is so far removed from the concept of assault rifle (spray-n-pray covering burst fire) it's not even funny.

Part of the problem you're running into is that it's not a true Assault Rifle, and doesn't conform to the same standards any more than the Revenant and Phaeston MGs do.

the Saber is a Battle Rifle, which is a rather different creature from the Assault Rifle.  That being said, I can use it to far better effect than I can the heavier sniper rifles that so grossly out perform it shot for shot.  Why?  Because I can fire faster with it than the single shot snipers.  This makes it excellent for mid range engagements vs multiple targets, which is most of what this game provides honestly.

The closer the target, the less your timing matters for optimal shot accuracy.  It's actually the rifle I prefer for my Infiltrator precisely because it's a semi automatic weapon with better damage per shot than the Mattock.  It still benefits from most of the cloak damage buffs with the only exception being the 6th rank sniper specific buff (Human Infiltrator)

I'm actually getting ready to try it out with the Extended Barrel I got yesterday just for kicks.

[Shezo]

i think it's better just to use Carnifex instead of Saber -- less weight, a little less damage, better rate of fire and easier to get.

[Vigilance_Pep]

The Saber has limited utility, and since ARs don't have bayonette attachments this gun is a huge liability, even if you spam other powers to compensate (Turian Soldier: proxy mine or concussive shot). If you want a sniping weapon use a sniper rifle: You'll find many lighter options with good if not better damage parity to reload time.

The Marksman skill does not help clip reload time, making the saber and most sniper rifles, besides the raptor, non viable for marksman synergy. Turians got the short end of the stick, along with nerfed Quarian Infiltrators.

Modifié par Vigilance_Pep, 25 mars 2012 - 08:01 .

[Drummernate]

Vigilance_Pep wrote...

The Saber has limited utility, and since ARs don't have bayonette attachments this gun is a huge liability unless you spam other powers to compensate (Turian Soldier: proxy mine or concussive shot). If you want a sniping weapon use a sniper rifle: You'll find many lighter options with good if not better damage parity to reload time.

The Marksman skill does not help clip reload time, making the saber and most sniper rifles, besides the raptor, non viable for marksman synergy.

Reload glitch.

Cuts load time by .6 seconds or so.

Just tap Y again after he slams the clip in.

[Gaidax]

Saber is an utter crap... Really... I got Saber II and Carnifex X and let me tell you - there is absolutely NO reason to use it over Carnifex EVER unless you open like 500 Spectre packs to get it to level 10, in which case it would get owned by Paladin X for the same reasons.

[t6skyart]

Gaidax wrote...

Saber is an utter crap... Really... I got Saber II and Carnifex X and let me tell you - there is absolutely NO reason to use it over Carnifex EVER unless you open like 500 Spectre packs to get it to level 10, in which case it would get owned by Paladin X for the same reasons.

Sabre has larger ammo capacity than the carnifex and paladin, and seems to do more damage than both of them. On silver, I can 1-hit headshot troopers with the sabre-i, but not with the paladin-i, and the paladin does a lot more damage than the carnifex. If you use a paladin or carnifex on a soldier, you'll be out of ammo before you can say "wtf". It's a really good gun on turians and soldiers, preferably a turian soldier, or characters who rely a lot on guns in general. Heavy pistols are good for power-reliant characters, as they're lightweight and pack a decent punch.

I personally don't like the sabre and prefer my vindicator-x over my sabre-i on my turian sentinal, but I've tried it on my human soldier and it is very effective in silver and gold.

Modifié par t6skyart, 25 mars 2012 - 10:03 .

[Sevrun]

Gaidax wrote...

Saber is an utter crap... Really... I got Saber II and Carnifex X and let me tell you - there is absolutely NO reason to use it over Carnifex EVER unless you open like 500 Spectre packs to get it to level 10, in which case it would get owned by Paladin X for the same reasons.

Oh look, another elitist that doesn't believe in any weapon except his Carni.

On an unrelated note, It is not a weapon suited to everyone, and honestly without some buff it lacks much appeal vs the more dedicated weaponry.  I say this as a person intimately familiar with how a battle rifle operates and as a user of said weapon on my Infiltrator.  Is it my favored weapon?  Not particularly, my Infil dinks around in Silver/Bronze matches.

If you're only carrying one weapon as a sniper, and you doubt the team's ability to keep enemies out of CQB range with you, then perhaps you should consider it.

As far as the Uber-pistols, I think they're WAY to accurate at longer ranges personally.  However the game wasn't designed to account for shorter barrels, so it's what we've got to play with.

[dnaxv]

I actually have been using it on my Quarian Engineer (on silver, I only take my inf to gold). For silver it works great. I know point don't really matter but I am often #1 or #2 with QE sporting a Saber I, so yes it can do damage.

I run with the piercing and scope mods and go for headshots. If I manage to do it right, it is quite effective at clearing out groups of enemies.

[J717]

I can average ~95K on Silver with a Saber I...with Extended Barrel V and Scope V on my Turian Sentinel, everything is pretty much a 2-shot to the head, with tier 1/basic enemies being 1-shottable.

If you're going to use it, you pretty much need to stick to headshots exclusively (a 20% headshot bonus is GODLY) - otherwise, you're wasting the damage potential. It really is an amazing gun in the hands of someone who can take advantage of it - when my buddy finally got one and started using it, it literally made a world of difference to his effectiveness and scores. It's like a semi-auto Black Widow when used correctly...

Modifié par J717, 25 mars 2012 - 10:31 .

[ImperatorMortis]

What? Saber is amazing, its better than most sniper rifles. Here's a hint. Use a Turian, and aim for the head.

[BaeBunni]

The saber is basically the sniping answer for the turians! since they can reduce weight on assault rifles. Bam put that on them. Just like The Graal and Crusader are the sniping answer for krogans and so on and so on. Simply because you can't use a gun doesn't mean it sucks.

Modifié par BaeBunni, 25 mars 2012 - 10:39 .

[t6skyart]

J717 wrote...

I can average ~95K on Silver with a Saber I...with Extended Barrel V and Scope V on my Turian Sentinel, everything is pretty much a 2-shot to the head, with tier 1/basic enemies being 1-shottable.

If you're going to use it, you pretty much need to stick to headshots exclusively (a 20% headshot bonus is GODLY) - otherwise, you're wasting the damage potential. It really is an amazing gun in the hands of someone who can take advantage of it - when my buddy finally got one and started using it, it literally made a world of difference to his effectiveness and scores. It's like a semi-auto Black Widow when used correctly...

It's all preference. The turian sentinal is a very flexible class that can work well with most guns, and relies on how you spec him rather than how you arm him. But i do agree that the sabre is a very powerful weapon that's not exactly fit for everyone. It takes more experience than most other weapons to be used effectively, and when it is used effectively, it can be a game changer.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Everything the Saber does, the Viper does better.

The only thing the Saber has better is integral piercing.

Modifié par JaimasOfRaxis, 25 mars 2012 - 10:47 .