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[J717]

Tangster wrote...

J717 wrote...

Again, Extended Barrel V, Scope V, put an ammo mod on it and call i a day. You have to treat the Saber like it's a sniper/AR hybrid - not putting a scope on this and not going for headshots will make it half as effective as it can be. And if someone uses 20% headshot damage bonus...oh boy. It's pretty much over.

Hell the saber is accurate enough to score medium range headshots without as scope.
At least, I find I'm much more likely to score a medium/long range headshot with a saber than a pistol(assuming bothe are zoomed, but neither have scopes).

Oh yeah, for sure. The Saber is an amazing gun....having 2-3 people on a single team with this who know how to handle it and go for headshots and Silver becomes a complete joke....it's pretty much target practice wiht Biotic Explosions + headshots the whole time. You need a bit more variety in Gold because there's so much more AoE damage going on, but otherwise, if I could count on 1 other person rocking a Saber - there's really no way we're going to lose if that person knows how to use it.

Modifié par J717, 25 mars 2012 - 11:45 .

[Barneyk]

I really kinda like it, but, the carnifex or paladin just seems to do almost the same job with lower weight...

[MartialArtsSurfer]

Saber is a good AR for classes that don't want to use pistols, heavy but same damage as Paladin (350ish-430ish) pulled straight from game data filles -see links below

on Turians & soldiers with AR bonuses, it's even better

it's like a Paladin with more ammo, slightly lower fire rate

headshots have a 250% damage multiplier!

it is by far the best AR vs. armor that have a flat Damage Reduction that reduces bullet damage by 50 pts from EACH bullet like Brutes, thus making most ARs & SMGs do just 1 pt of damage per bullet unless they're like a Mattoc or Saber

Modifié par MartialArtsSurfer, 26 mars 2012 - 12:08 .

[JerZey CJ]

Really? I find the Saber to be one of the best guns in my arsenal. The trick is to use its high accuracy and the stability bonus from cover to your advantage. Go into cover and you can headshot things from across the map. Any class I put it on, I have the gold headshot medal by the end of the match. I particularly like it on my Asari Vanguard, stasis headshots everywhere.

[t6skyart]

Gaidax wrote...

t6skyart wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

Saber is an utter crap... Really... I got Saber II and Carnifex X and let me tell you - there is absolutely NO reason to use it over Carnifex EVER unless you open like 500 Spectre packs to get it to level 10, in which case it would get owned by Paladin X for the same reasons.

Sabre has larger ammo capacity than the carnifex and paladin, and seems to do more damage than both of them. On silver, I can 1-hit headshot troopers with the sabre-i, but not with the paladin-i, and the paladin does a lot more damage than the carnifex. If you use a paladin or carnifex on a soldier, you'll be out of ammo before you can say "wtf". It's a really good gun on turians and soldiers, preferably a turian soldier, or characters who rely a lot on guns in general. Heavy pistols are good for power-reliant characters, as they're lightweight and pack a decent punch.

I personally don't like the sabre and prefer my vindicator-x over my sabre-i on my turian sentinal, but I've tried it on my human soldier and it is very effective in silver and gold.

Paladin I does 350.9 points of damage base, Saber I does 350.1... So your story makes no sense.

Carnifex X does 345.1 damage, has a better rate of fire, 4 times less recoil, half reload speed of Saber and weights 4 times less compared to the equal rank of Saber.

Paladin does equal damage to Saber at any comparable levels (it even does 1 more damage at level X ) and everything else the same, except recoil only being 2 times less and less ammo capacity, but still half the reload speed, better rate of fire and 4 times less weight.

And if all that is not enough - Paladin and Carnifex take pistol slot, so you can go on and take another Assault Rifle, without losing anything.


As a side note, I think heavy pistols should take a good nerfbat, really... they are TOO good overall, especially compared to the horrible Assault Rifles.

If that's the case, then i must have made a mistake, and i appologize for giving false information. But my point still stands, people understimate the sabre.

[t6skyart]

t6skyart wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

t6skyart wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

Saber is an utter crap... Really... I got Saber II and Carnifex X and let me tell you - there is absolutely NO reason to use it over Carnifex EVER unless you open like 500 Spectre packs to get it to level 10, in which case it would get owned by Paladin X for the same reasons.

Sabre has larger ammo capacity than the carnifex and paladin, and seems to do more damage than both of them. On silver, I can 1-hit headshot troopers with the sabre-i, but not with the paladin-i, and the paladin does a lot more damage than the carnifex. If you use a paladin or carnifex on a soldier, you'll be out of ammo before you can say "wtf". It's a really good gun on turians and soldiers, preferably a turian soldier, or characters who rely a lot on guns in general. Heavy pistols are good for power-reliant characters, as they're lightweight and pack a decent punch.

I personally don't like the sabre and prefer my vindicator-x over my sabre-i on my turian sentinal, but I've tried it on my human soldier and it is very effective in silver and gold.

Paladin I does 350.9 points of damage base, Saber I does 350.1... So your story makes no sense.

Carnifex X does 345.1 damage, has a better rate of fire, 4 times less recoil, half reload speed of Saber and weights 4 times less compared to the equal rank of Saber.

Paladin does equal damage to Saber at any comparable levels (it even does 1 more damage at level X ) and everything else the same, except recoil only being 2 times less and less ammo capacity, but still half the reload speed, better rate of fire and 4 times less weight.

And if all that is not enough - Paladin and Carnifex take pistol slot, so you can go on and take another Assault Rifle, without losing anything.


As a side note, I think heavy pistols should take a good nerfbat, really... they are TOO good overall, especially compared to the horrible Assault Rifles.

If that's the case, then i must have made a mistake, and i appologize for giving false information. But my point still stands, people understimate the sabre.

MartialArtsSurfer wrote...

Saber is a good AR for classes that don't want to use pistols, heavy but same damage as Paladin (350ish-430ish) pulled straight from game data filles -see links below

on Turians & soldiers with AR bonuses, it's even better

it's like a Paladin with more ammo, slightly lower fire rate

headshots have a 250% damage multiplier!

it is by far the best AR vs. armor that have a flat Damage Reduction that reduces bullet damage by 50 pts from EACH bullet like Brutes, thus making most ARs & SMGs do just 1 pt of damage per bullet unless they're like a Mattoc or Saber

 

That must have been the reason sabre's headshots seem to do more damage than the paladin's.

[MartialArtsSurfer]

t6skyart wrote...

t6skyart wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

t6skyart wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

Saber is an utter crap... Really... I got Saber II and Carnifex X and let me tell you - there is absolutely NO reason to use it over Carnifex EVER unless you open like 500 Spectre packs to get it to level 10, in which case it would get owned by Paladin X for the same reasons.

Sabre has larger ammo capacity than the carnifex and paladin, and seems to do more damage than both of them. On silver, I can 1-hit headshot troopers with the sabre-i, but not with the paladin-i, and the paladin does a lot more damage than the carnifex. If you use a paladin or carnifex on a soldier, you'll be out of ammo before you can say "wtf". It's a really good gun on turians and soldiers, preferably a turian soldier, or characters who rely a lot on guns in general. Heavy pistols are good for power-reliant characters, as they're lightweight and pack a decent punch.

I personally don't like the sabre and prefer my vindicator-x over my sabre-i on my turian sentinal, but I've tried it on my human soldier and it is very effective in silver and gold.

Paladin I does 350.9 points of damage base, Saber I does 350.1... So your story makes no sense.

Carnifex X does 345.1 damage, has a better rate of fire, 4 times less recoil, half reload speed of Saber and weights 4 times less compared to the equal rank of Saber.

Paladin does equal damage to Saber at any comparable levels (it even does 1 more damage at level X ) and everything else the same, except recoil only being 2 times less and less ammo capacity, but still half the reload speed, better rate of fire and 4 times less weight.

And if all that is not enough - Paladin and Carnifex take pistol slot, so you can go on and take another Assault Rifle, without losing anything.


As a side note, I think heavy pistols should take a good nerfbat, really... they are TOO good overall, especially compared to the horrible Assault Rifles.

If that's the case, then i must have made a mistake, and i appologize for giving false information. But my point still stands, people understimate the sabre.

MartialArtsSurfer wrote...

Saber is a good AR for classes that don't want to use pistols, heavy but same damage as Paladin (350ish-430ish) pulled straight from game data filles -see links below

on Turians & soldiers with AR bonuses, it's even better

it's like a Paladin with more ammo, slightly lower fire rate

headshots have a 250% damage multiplier!

it is by far the best AR vs. armor that have a flat Damage Reduction that reduces bullet damage by 50 pts from EACH bullet like Brutes, thus making most ARs & SMGs do just 1 pt of damage per bullet unless they're like a Mattoc or Saber

 

That must have been the reason sabre's headshots seem to do more damage than the paladin's.

ALL weapons have a 250% headshot damage multiplier
but
ya, some classes/races like Soldiers & Turians get bonuses to Assualt Rifles which is why a saber will seem to do more damage than a paladin --same base damage but soldiers get AR damage bonuses.

this is true of other classes/weapons like Infiltrators get a damage bonus with Snipers so even if a weapon has the same base damage as another weapon, it will change depending on class bonuses

Modifié par MartialArtsSurfer, 26 mars 2012 - 01:16 .

[Excelsior117]

Drummernate wrote...

Vigilance_Pep wrote...

The Saber has limited utility, and since ARs don't have bayonette attachments this gun is a huge liability unless you spam other powers to compensate (Turian Soldier: proxy mine or concussive shot). If you want a sniping weapon use a sniper rifle: You'll find many lighter options with good if not better damage parity to reload time.

The Marksman skill does not help clip reload time, making the saber and most sniper rifles, besides the raptor, non viable for marksman synergy.

Reload glitch.

Cuts load time by .6 seconds or so.

Just tap Y again after he slams the clip in.

I did not know that. How exactly does THAT work?

[Tangster]

Excelsior117 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Vigilance_Pep wrote...

The Saber has limited utility, and since ARs don't have bayonette attachments this gun is a huge liability unless you spam other powers to compensate (Turian Soldier: proxy mine or concussive shot). If you want a sniping weapon use a sniper rifle: You'll find many lighter options with good if not better damage parity to reload time.

The Marksman skill does not help clip reload time, making the saber and most sniper rifles, besides the raptor, non viable for marksman synergy.

Reload glitch.

Cuts load time by .6 seconds or so.

Just tap Y again after he slams the clip in.

I did not know that. How exactly does THAT work?

Reload time is shorter than the animation. Performing any action when the reload is done skips the rest of the animation.

[KillerSnake616]

i love it....well, it it wasnt so damn heavy id love it. every time i have used it though i get 20+ headshots, 75+ kills, and 75+ assault rifle kills. any other weapon and im lucky to get silver in the last wave

then again, ive never used it on anything but bronze

[Excelsior117]

Tangster wrote...

Excelsior117 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Vigilance_Pep wrote...

The Saber has limited utility, and since ARs don't have bayonette attachments this gun is a huge liability unless you spam other powers to compensate (Turian Soldier: proxy mine or concussive shot). If you want a sniping weapon use a sniper rifle: You'll find many lighter options with good if not better damage parity to reload time.

The Marksman skill does not help clip reload time, making the saber and most sniper rifles, besides the raptor, non viable for marksman synergy.

Reload glitch.

Cuts load time by .6 seconds or so.

Just tap Y again after he slams the clip in.

I did not know that. How exactly does THAT work?

Reload time is shorter than the animation. Performing any action when the reload is done skips the rest of the animation.

Ah I see! Awesome, will try it right away!

[DarkSNIPE-TH]

lone saber may be not good enough , try it with piercing mod+scope+soldier class+Adrenaline Rush+Head shot > you take out almost everything in 3 shot in 4sec except brute , ravager and boss and you have 8 shot in 1 round so you can take out 2 enemy at least in 1 power use , in silver , it take out brute , atlas , geth prime fast about 15-25sec depend on it shooting at you or not.
but I did not play it much in gold since it hard to find someone cover your back.

[okita_luc]

Sometimes I play with my human infiltrator, if you use a one shot weapon can be a little strange at first

Modifié par okita_luc, 26 mars 2012 - 04:36 .

[shumworld]

I can make the Saber dance with my Turian Soldier.

[AgentSanchez]

 This gun is BEASTLY in the hands of turian soldier w/ extended barrel and extended clip IF you can consistently and quickly get into a rhythmn with a significant portion of your shots being headshots.   It'll take out most trash mobs in one headshot and you can put out 14 accurrate shots in 5-6 seconds and medium to long range.

I'll say it again, in the right hands, THIS WEAPON IS A BEAST!

My new favorite by far...

[whateverman7]

the saber is a great gun, but according to this community 'ARs suck'....lol if yall say so

Modifié par whateverman7, 10 mai 2012 - 05:20 .

[whateverman7]

another note: the saber is great for any character, not just turians

[KiraTsukasa]

AgentSanchez wrote...

 This gun is BEASTLY in the hands of turian soldier w/ extended barrel and extended clip IF you can consistently and quickly get into a rhythmn with a significant portion of your shots being headshots.   It'll take out most trash mobs in one headshot and you can put out 14 accurrate shots in 5-6 seconds and medium to long range.

I'll say it again, in the right hands, THIS WEAPON IS A BEAST!

My new favorite by far...

Why did you necro this just to say THAT?

[Rokayt]

Vigilance_Pep wrote...
 nerfed Quarian Infiltrators.

The Quarian infiltraitor wasn't nerfed, its damage was taken up 5 notches.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Because all the Assault Rifles suck,

Another clueless player posting nonsense.

[Rokayt]

Steelgrave wrote...

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Because all the Assault Rifles suck,

Another clueless player posting nonsense.

In technical terms, they are all worse.
They are much more fun then the other guns, so they still get used.

[GroverA125]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Everything the Saber does, the Viper does better.

The only thing the Saber has better is integral piercing.

Uh, that statement is completely incorrect.

The M-99 has 390 damage standard, the viper has 242 damage standard. The M-99 has a DPS of 500, the viper has sa DPS of 267 standard, The M-99 has greater damage per shot, a greater rate of fire, a larger ammo capacity, a larger spare ammo capacity, the ability to increase magazine size by 90%, and has the ability to have its primary disadvantage lowered (it's recoil). Even if you fire the M-99 slowly, you still out-power the Viper, which is only a decent choice for the player if you are completely unable to tolerate recoil.

And no, the M-99 does not innately pierce armor. It needs the AP mod to penetrate walls and other objects.

[tvih]

Again with this mythical "insane kick" that just isn't there.

[jandrewcepticon]

I actually love my Saber. My Human Soldier with Adrenaline Rush and the Saber can deal great damage against any enemy faction.