Just a bunch of talk.
I put nothing in it.
Casey Hudson likes the entitlement argument
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AntiDave
, mars 25 2012 04:57
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#27
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:10
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Didn't get that at all, he doesn't like when people make it personal, and he is right.
I hated the ending, but I don't have anything against him, in fact I rather like him because he and the rest were rather much responsible for the game itself.
No one should make this personal, it is still a game after all.
I hated the ending, but I don't have anything against him, in fact I rather like him because he and the rest were rather much responsible for the game itself.
No one should make this personal, it is still a game after all.
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Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:11
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What he said here did actually seem pretty non confrontational. I have no problem with his words here, he's saying that he's listening to fans and criticism again and that he doesn't enjoy the more vicious comments. I'll wait for April and Bioware's response before I call BS.
#29
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:12
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Quote mining by the OP. That is all.
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#31
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:13
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So he said that it's fine unless people get mad and get personal....and you respond by getting mad and personal.....
classy
classy
#32
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:13
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"Q: The game is unquestionably bleak. Why is that?
A: Over the course of the series, so much of what Commander Shepard is doing is making choices where some sort of sacrifice is involved. There isn’t an easy path forward. There’s no way to get out of it unscathed. That’s what makes Commander Shepard’s choices interesting. So, by the time we get to the third game, I think we have a character that, we wanted to reflect the fact that a lot of those choices have been made so far."
What a bizarre statement. The game didn't really reflect any of our choices at all.
A: Over the course of the series, so much of what Commander Shepard is doing is making choices where some sort of sacrifice is involved. There isn’t an easy path forward. There’s no way to get out of it unscathed. That’s what makes Commander Shepard’s choices interesting. So, by the time we get to the third game, I think we have a character that, we wanted to reflect the fact that a lot of those choices have been made so far."
What a bizarre statement. The game didn't really reflect any of our choices at all.
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#33
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:14
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AntiDave wrote...
Guys check out this interview with Mr. Hudson:
http://www.theglobea...article2379957/
He implies more or less directly that the Re3take Movement are more or less entitled little brats to him who think they own Mass Effect. Once again evidence that Bioware has learned nothing.
You really read too deeply into that. No where did Casey even mention or say anything negitive about the fans. He simply stated the connection that players have to the story and that its so personal to us.
#34
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:15
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poor guy, you probably thought that you can gain community's support by taking his reply completely out of context. fail flamebait is still a fail
#35
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:16
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VettoRyouzou wrote...
Calling it now, Casey Hudson is the next Peter Molyneux.
NEXT?..... he IS the new Molyneux.....
#36
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:16
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Bomma72 wrote...
Didn't get that at all, he doesn't like when people make it personal, and he is right.
I hated the ending, but I don't have anything against him, in fact I rather like him because he and the rest were rather much responsible for the game itself.
No one should make this personal, it is still a game after all.
It becomes personal when you put your own limited amount of time in your life into it in some capacity and then you're screwed over and shown that it was all for nought.
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#37
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:17
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Casey is delusional 
People don't like the game they hate it. Because the last mission invalidates the entire series
People don't like the game they hate it. Because the last mission invalidates the entire series
#38
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:17
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Yes i am pissed about the ending.. But start i rio about it, its kinda .. to much, for me.
#39
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:17
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Scripted
No hard questions at all.
Why did he lie about it not being and A, B and C ending?
Why didn't you patch any of the plot holes up?
No hard questions at all.
Why did he lie about it not being and A, B and C ending?
Why didn't you patch any of the plot holes up?
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#40
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:17
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pavi132 wrote...
iamthedave3 wrote...
I think that's an overly strong response. His answers are exceptionally bland and inoffensive, just like the questions he was asked. An interviewee will almost always take the easy way out unless the interviewer goes after something.
This. There was nothing in that interview at all. OP, care to quote where he called people "entitled" or even implied it?
"You have to have a thick skin, for sure, and recognize that, to some
degree, a game is a little bit different than a lot of media because the
players feel like they own it. They co-own everything that happens in
the world" (My emphasis)
'Feel like they own it'. He says we feel like we own Mass Effect.
But when I complained about the Mass Effect 3 ending my 'ownership' of the franchise was not part of the question. Bioware does own it legally. All I did was saying that in my opinion the Mass Effect universe deserves are better ending by the virtue of it being a really decent, mature sci-fi story.
Ownership doesn't play a role in criticizing someone and asking for changes. A union does not own a company when it makes demands. Technically a contract does not entitle you to make demands.
So why did Casey Hudson bring up the ownership issue at all? My issue is that he chose to bring it up whenh I could have chosen another way to deal with the subject.
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Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:18
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Giguelingueling wrote...
VettoRyouzou wrote...
Calling it now, Casey Hudson is the next Peter Molyneux.
At least Peter Molyneux is trying to put everything he say in the game.
true, he does try. where as Casey just makes things up and then acts all innocent and suprised when people are annoyed nothing he said was true..
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#42
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:19
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Aesieru wrote...
Let's also not forget that we do own the story, they are OUR characters, in a universe that was "defined by feedback from the community".
I'm beginning to wonder if "community" means something different to him.
Apparently he never expected to be taken at his word.
#44
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:22
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look, right now interview like these are only for the purpose of letting ppl know things are still moving one way or another. Trust me, writers DO care about what happen with their product, I think right now its better to just relax a little and lets wait and see what Hudson and his team will do. Beside, I am pretty sure they are still under some sort of NDA on extra content/DLC.
Beside lets think of it from another angle: Right now, Hudson and Walter are having a LOT of problem with this ending, based on how the public opinion are against them, not to mention the potential financial and personal reputation stress they and Bioware currently have. Give them one chance to repair it, and basically don't react to anything any NON-offical channel said *Cough*Twitter*Cough*. Lastly just remember to be civil and polite (at least until post PAX East announcement)
Also: HOLD THE LINE
Beside lets think of it from another angle: Right now, Hudson and Walter are having a LOT of problem with this ending, based on how the public opinion are against them, not to mention the potential financial and personal reputation stress they and Bioware currently have. Give them one chance to repair it, and basically don't react to anything any NON-offical channel said *Cough*Twitter*Cough*. Lastly just remember to be civil and polite (at least until post PAX East announcement)
Also: HOLD THE LINE
#45
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:24
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Nothing offensive there nothing is said at all really. Why does no one ever ask any hard questions they are all soft balls I would love for Casey to explain the plot holes he created no rudenes involved just please explain.
#46
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:26
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Yeah, and the "entitlement" is new and refreshing. Please.Sequin wrote...
All the anti-Casey Hudson rhetoric is growing tiresome...
#47
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:27
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I hate the endings as much as anyone else, but I honestly don't see any animosity in Casey's words here. Is he frustrated by the situation? I'd assume yes, who wouldn't be? But I've seen no indication that he harbors any real ill will toward the majority of people who dislike the ending, though is rightly bothered by people who get offensive and personal, as that's completely unproductive, just like this thread.
#48
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:27
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The Angry One wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
Let's also not forget that we do own the story, they are OUR characters, in a universe that was "defined by feedback from the community".
I'm beginning to wonder if "community" means something different to him.
Apparently he never expected to be taken at his word.
No, I think he meant a "community" of EA owned game reviewers like Gamespot and IGN.
#49
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:27
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Good for him. It's his story. If you don't like it, then leave.
#50
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:28
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I think first of all it brings the whole game-play experience full
circle, whereas the first games were [role-playing games] and had
cinematic stuff and some combat, but it was more of an RPG than a great
third-person shooter. So I think the earlier games were trying to find a
good balance, and I think that’s kind of what we got with Mass Effect 3
– a really good balance of third-person combat that is competitive with
the best shooters in the world,
Was he on crack when he said that. I mean people bought the first one and the second one for whats in bold StoryTelling and Role playing. I didn;t pick it up for third person shooter if I wanted to pick up a third person shooter I pick up MGS gow etc games that are far better when it comes to shooters.
and in what planet is ME competive with other thrid person shooters.
Atleast I know bioware don't want to do RPG's any more with that statment it clear they want to do 3rd person shooters with an after thought for stroy telling because it has a bigger market.
circle, whereas the first games were [role-playing games] and had
cinematic stuff and some combat, but it was more of an RPG than a great
third-person shooter. So I think the earlier games were trying to find a
good balance, and I think that’s kind of what we got with Mass Effect 3
– a really good balance of third-person combat that is competitive with
the best shooters in the world,
Was he on crack when he said that. I mean people bought the first one and the second one for whats in bold StoryTelling and Role playing. I didn;t pick it up for third person shooter if I wanted to pick up a third person shooter I pick up MGS gow etc games that are far better when it comes to shooters.
and in what planet is ME competive with other thrid person shooters.
Atleast I know bioware don't want to do RPG's any more with that statment it clear they want to do 3rd person shooters with an after thought for stroy telling because it has a bigger market.
