Salis777 wrote...
zingro wrote...
meh your better off banging ya head against a wall with threads like this.
Yeah, 75% of them are just Gigamantis or Father_Jerusalem spamming. Usually best to avoid them.
Gigamantis wrote...
A list ...
1.) Despite what you all want to claim you weren't "lied to." They promised varied endings based on your choices and you got 3 of them. If they weren't varied enough for you that's fine, you have every right to be disappointed. Pretending you were lied to, however, is silly.
2.) Some of you are proponents of the "happy ending" and it's the reason you're upset. That's not your call to make and if any changes are made in that capacity to the ending it will be an outrage. If you "fans" end up tainting the DLC like that I couldn't stomach buying it; I want the real ending.
3.) There are many questions that still need answering and plot points that need settling. That's pretty much what DLC is and with no loose ends there would be no conceivable reason to release more content. You all knew there would be DLC.
By everyone's admission the rest of the game was fantastic. No matter what reasons you subscribe to you're overreacting and not being constructive. Trying to sabotage the game on fan and review sites is silly. Calling the game garbage and making empty threats on the forums is silly. If you're disappointed voice it, but the community has been rather embarrassing on this issue. Get your heads straight.
Leaving the ending open-ended is a way to get us more content that feels important to the story. You don't know that it was already in the game; if it had been it probably would've been voiced explanation to wrap up everything like in the Fallout games. Relegating it to DLC means they can do a lot more with it and give us a deep, interactive experience when wrapping up these loose ends.Rockworm503 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
I am refuting your points. You're just getting upset when you can't refute back.Rockworm503 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Nope, I'm saying that could've easily been in ME2 though. There was no reason for them to just hint at him during ME2 then sell you this story about it a year later. That could've easily been in the original game. No excuse for that. Nickel and diming us.Rockworm503 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Sandbox games are different. Just because one DLC is a complete aside and the other only wants to deal with main story content doesn't mean they're not just attempts to nickel and dime you. Both fallout games and skyrim are mostly side quests and non-main story content.Rockworm503 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
3.) DLC is tearing pages out of the middle and/or end of the book and reselling them. Whether you like that concept or not that's what DLC is in every game you've ever played.
Not true in the slightest.
Grand Theft Auto had full complete storys that complimented the original felt like full fledged expansion packs.
Fallout New Vegas each ad new areas and interesting storys and characters that expand the universe.
Red Dead Redemption's DLC is a complete new game where the wild west is overrun by zombies oh yeah you can totally tell these were cut out of the main game to nickle and dime us.
You are claiming that we should be fine with the real ending being taken out and being charged for it because DLC exists.
The fact that you can't tell the difference says a lot about you really.
That is a pathetic excuse.
Lair of the Shadow Broker is one of the best DLC I've ever played. You honestly telling me they kept that out of the game on purpose and sat on it for over a year then decided to release it?
Do you even pay attention to what your typing?
Ok I'm done here.
Its obvious you aren't here to refute our points but to say your right and we're wrong no matter what we said.
i still have that family guy clip I can use it again because it seems very relevent here.
Your entire idea is the simple fact that some DLC is blatant ripoffs.
So DLC exists.
Some DLC is ripping us off.
Therefore all DLC exist to rip us off
Basicallly there is no difference to a quality DLC that really gives us our moneys worth and a character that was taken out but still on the disc.
Why am I taking you seriously?
Leaving plot elements open-ended so they can provide us with great stories around them, that are worth our money, isn't bad DLC. You just assume it's worse than all other types of DLC because you're a silly, angry man.
Why don't you wait and see this new DLC before you decide it's crap that's not worth anything, mmkay?
You have refuted nothing.
You have said nothing of value yet I keep responding to you.
See the thing is I know the difference between quality DLC and nickle and diming.
Leaving the ending open for more DLC is obvious Nickle and diming. How can it not be?
I wont be nickle and dimed anymore being rich or poor has nothing to do with it. The line is set in the sand and i will not be made a fool by any game company. I made the biggest mistake for buying Javik's DLC especially when he's already on the damn disk.
Bioware is quickly becoming another Capcom and I have every reason in the world to avoid Capcom.
Also its funny how I'm upset. You can tell how?
dbollendorf wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
A list ...
1.) Despite what you all want to claim you weren't "lied to." They promised varied endings based on your choices and you got 3 of them. If they weren't varied enough for you that's fine, you have every right to be disappointed. Pretending you were lied to, however, is silly.
2.) Some of you are proponents of the "happy ending" and it's the reason you're upset. That's not your call to make and if any changes are made in that capacity to the ending it will be an outrage. If you "fans" end up tainting the DLC like that I couldn't stomach buying it; I want the real ending.
3.) There are many questions that still need answering and plot points that need settling. That's pretty much what DLC is and with no loose ends there would be no conceivable reason to release more content. You all knew there would be DLC.
By everyone's admission the rest of the game was fantastic. No matter what reasons you subscribe to you're overreacting and not being constructive. Trying to sabotage the game on fan and review sites is silly. Calling the game garbage and making empty threats on the forums is silly. If you're disappointed voice it, but the community has been rather embarrassing on this issue. Get your heads straight.
1. I believe the words they used were "widely varied" and these endings were not.
2. If there's not even a chance of anything close to a happy ending then did our choices really matter.
3. If they gave us an incomplete to sell DLC they should be driven out of business.
This game is not fantastic. In thinking about it the last few days I realized it has a lot more problems then anyone is talking about. Some of the major points in the game are just recycled from the first game, the journal is horrible, the bugs are so bad my sister has probems doing other things if she leave the game in the drive. Combine all that with the ending and this might be the worst game Bioware ever made.
Using silly pictures instead of actual points is definitely an interesting discussion strategy. Not my own method, but this is a gaming forum, so brilliant retorte friend.Rockworm503 wrote...
Salis777 wrote...
zingro wrote...
meh your better off banging ya head against a wall with threads like this.
Yeah, 75% of them are just Gigamantis or Father_Jerusalem spamming. Usually best to avoid them.
LOL I noticed and then they'll come back and use this saying "oh you can't say I'm wrong so your resorting to silly pictures blah blah I'm right no matter what"
Gigamantis wrote...
Using silly pictures instead of actual points is definitely an interesting discussion strategy. Not my own method, but this is a gaming forum, so brilliant retorte friend.Rockworm503 wrote...
Salis777 wrote...
zingro wrote...
meh your better off banging ya head against a wall with threads like this.
Yeah, 75% of them are just Gigamantis or Father_Jerusalem spamming. Usually best to avoid them.
LOL I noticed and then they'll come back and use this saying "oh you can't say I'm wrong so your resorting to silly pictures blah blah I'm right no matter what"
I agree with his point, I do think using silly pictures instead of actual points makes you look ineffective.Salis777 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Using silly pictures instead of actual points is definitely an interesting discussion strategy. Not my own method, but this is a gaming forum, so brilliant retorte friend.Rockworm503 wrote...
Salis777 wrote...
zingro wrote...
meh your better off banging ya head against a wall with threads like this.
Yeah, 75% of them are just Gigamantis or Father_Jerusalem spamming. Usually best to avoid them.
LOL I noticed and then they'll come back and use this saying "oh you can't say I'm wrong so your resorting to silly pictures blah blah I'm right no matter what"
Good job proving his point lol.
Gigamantis wrote...
The loose ends you mention will likely end up being DLC content. I don't really understand how a lot of you expected everything to be 100% concluded yet still expected DLC. You can't really have both in any logical way.
Gigamantis wrote...
I agree with his point, I do think using silly pictures instead of actual points makes you look ineffective.Salis777 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Using silly pictures instead of actual points is definitely an interesting discussion strategy. Not my own method, but this is a gaming forum, so brilliant retorte friend.Rockworm503 wrote...
Salis777 wrote...
zingro wrote...
meh your better off banging ya head against a wall with threads like this.
Yeah, 75% of them are just Gigamantis or Father_Jerusalem spamming. Usually best to avoid them.
LOL I noticed and then they'll come back and use this saying "oh you can't say I'm wrong so your resorting to silly pictures blah blah I'm right no matter what"
Good job proving his point lol.
You, like most other people here, have offered no explanation for your opinion. This likely means you're upset and your emotions are stilting your ability to be useful in a discussion. Dry your tears, friend.Il Divo wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
The loose ends you mention will likely end up being DLC content. I don't really understand how a lot of you expected everything to be 100% concluded yet still expected DLC. You can't really have both in any logical way.
Personally, I'm still laughing at this attempt at logic. It doesn't get much weaker than this, folks.
Il Divo wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
The loose ends you mention will likely end up being DLC content. I don't really understand how a lot of you expected everything to be 100% concluded yet still expected DLC. You can't really have both in any logical way.
Personally, I'm still laughing at this attempt at logic. It doesn't get much weaker than this, folks.
It is the final conclusion; the ending is what it is. DLC will be supplemental content and if there was nothing else to explain or do in the world where would the supplemental content come from?Nepp wrote...
Il Divo wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
The loose ends you mention will likely end up being DLC content. I don't really understand how a lot of you expected everything to be 100% concluded yet still expected DLC. You can't really have both in any logical way.
Personally, I'm still laughing at this attempt at logic. It doesn't get much weaker than this, folks.
Haha that is funny.
Wasn't the point of ME3, which is the last one in a TRILOGY, to be the final conclusion? How can it be a trilogy if they left out core content of the ending conclusion.
Be like watching the movie Titanic, and just before the ship sinks a message pops up saying "To see more of this fatastic scene, please buy the forth coming DVD releases!"
Gigamantis wrote...
You, like most other people here, have offered no explanation for your opinion. This likely means you're upset and your emotions are stilting your ability to be useful in a discussion. Dry your tears, friend.Il Divo wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
The loose ends you mention will likely end up being DLC content. I don't really understand how a lot of you expected everything to be 100% concluded yet still expected DLC. You can't really have both in any logical way.
Personally, I'm still laughing at this attempt at logic. It doesn't get much weaker than this, folks.
Modifié par Il Divo, 25 mars 2012 - 10:11 .
Gigamantis wrote...
Troll?Yawn.
Most all DLC story arcs are just stuff that was branched off of incomplete plot points. Once something is complete you can't build off it. Logic is fun, isn't it?Il Divo wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
You, like most other people here, have offered no explanation for your opinion. This likely means you're upset and your emotions are stilting your ability to be useful in a discussion. Dry your tears, friend.Il Divo wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
The loose ends you mention will likely end up being DLC content. I don't really understand how a lot of you expected everything to be 100% concluded yet still expected DLC. You can't really have both in any logical way.
Personally, I'm still laughing at this attempt at logic. It doesn't get much weaker than this, folks.
No, I'll keep this simple for you, weakling.
1) Bringing Down the Sky.
2) Overlord.
3) Most dlc put out by developers.
Oh damn, apprently I can have both in a logical way! See how easy that was?
Modifié par Gigamantis, 25 mars 2012 - 10:14 .
Gigamantis wrote...
Most all DLC is just stuff that was branched off of incomplete plot points. Once something is complete you can't build off it. Logic is fun, isn't it?
I'm expecting supplemental story content that delves into some of the incomplete plot points in the ending. I'm hoping they're not releasing a whole new ending; that would just be dumb.TomY90 wrote...
gigamantis we expect DLC to come out that was obvious considering how popular the ME2 DLC packs were with the fan base.
But we expect pretty much all the decisions you made since ME1 to be shown in ME3 free of charge (i.e. not paying extra for DLC to conclude everything).
unfortunately it looks like Bioware will be doing another Arrival by adding the actual ending later but fingers crossed its free considering how much a fight we put up. Unless that DLC pack is damn impressive.
So, you're conceding the logic point and moving on to creativity? Lovely. I think addressing these points in much larger DLC packages will be more creatively satisfying than trying to squeeze everything into the existing ending. Response?Salis777 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Most all DLC is just stuff that was branched off of incomplete plot points. Once something is complete you can't build off it. Logic is fun, isn't it?
Yes because creativity and writing are mathematical equations. Failing at logic, again lol.
Gigamantis wrote...
Most all DLC is just stuff that was branched off of incomplete plot points. Once something is complete you can't build off it. Logic is fun, isn't it?
Alexraptor1 wrote...
People, its pretty obvious were being trolled here.
Gigamantis wrote...
I agree with his point, I do think using silly pictures instead of actual points makes you look ineffective.Salis777 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Using silly pictures instead of actual points is definitely an interesting discussion strategy. Not my own method, but this is a gaming forum, so brilliant retorte friend.Rockworm503 wrote...
Salis777 wrote...
zingro wrote...
meh your better off banging ya head against a wall with threads like this.
Yeah, 75% of them are just Gigamantis or Father_Jerusalem spamming. Usually best to avoid them.
LOL I noticed and then they'll come back and use this saying "oh you can't say I'm wrong so your resorting to silly pictures blah blah I'm right no matter what"
Good job proving his point lol.
Gigamantis wrote...
So, you're conceding the logic point and moving on to creativity? Lovely. I think addressing these points in much larger DLC packages will be more creatively satisfying than trying to squeeze everything into the existing ending. Response?Salis777 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Most all DLC is just stuff that was branched off of incomplete plot points. Once something is complete you can't build off it. Logic is fun, isn't it?
Yes because creativity and writing are mathematical equations. Failing at logic, again lol.
Modifié par Salis777, 25 mars 2012 - 10:21 .
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