The Razman wrote...
http://video.msnbc.m...n-game/46814813
Cue frothing at the mouth from everyone.
durasteel wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
MENSA.
Thank you, no.
They certainly invited me often enough back when I was taking standardized tests in high school and college. I really never needed to join a smart club, it just seemed silly to me.
durasteel wrote...
The ending didn't go ever my head. I have a doctorate degree (Jurisprudence) and I have studied philosophy and history enough to minor in them when I was a business major in college. I read a lot. Like most people, I have my share of self-doubt, but one thing I feel pretty comfortable with is my intellect and education.
I was disappointed with the ending, frustrated with its inadequacy, and really sad that such a great game and series of games was concluded on such a sour note. I was not angry, however, until some people began to throw around this idea that we just didn't understand how great this ending was.
Unfortunately, it isn't just a few ignorant reviewers. Dr. Muzyka's statement advanced or perpetuated the notion that we really just needed explanation or clarification of the ending to the game. I find that to be insulting. As a community, we've spent weeks pouring over the ending, studying every detail and considering every nuance in the context of the game and the series as a whole. What has become very evident to me is that unless the indoctrination "conspiracy theory" turns out to be true, we have spent more time thinking about the ending of Mass Effect 3 in two weeks than the design team spent over the last 2 years.
We, the community, are not the problem. We didn't screw up the ending. It is unfortunate that some reviewers and media personalities who haven't taken the time to really understand the ending, its implications, and its context nevertheless feel justified in labeling this a "controversy" and placing the blame for it upon us. I suppose it takes a lot less time to call a group "entitled" than it does to gain a thorough understanding of what the hell you're talking about.
Many of these reviewers probably don't have that kind of time available before they submit their review of the game, because their publisher has given them a deadline which impacts the quality of their work. I imagine the Mass Effect team at BioWare Edmonton can sympathize.
Modifié par Giubba1985, 26 mars 2012 - 05:05 .
Rothgar49 wrote...
The Razman wrote...
http://video.msnbc.m...n-game/46814813
Cue frothing at the mouth from everyone.
Did i play the same game as this guy? And I get the feeling he's implying i'm too dumb to understand the ending... if so can someone please explain it to me.
Modifié par BobSmith101, 26 mars 2012 - 05:05 .
durasteel wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
MENSA. COLLEGE DEBATING. HIGH-SCHOOL DEBATING. ACADEMIC DEBATING. GRADUATE DEBATING. POLITICAL DEBATING.
Well, you've certainly found your caps lock key, haven't you?
Your examples prove my point. Debate in academic settings is done in strict accordance with the rules of the sponsoring organization. Political debates, the formal ones at least, also have rules, which the candidates typically ignore to great effect. Informal political debates are free-for-all fallacy fests, where insulting an opponent is often the most useful tactic for swaying the collective mind of the electorate.
I have to wonder where you thought you were going with this.
Little man? What's wrong with dwarfs?kbct wrote...
byzantine horse wrote...
Will just say this: It shouldn't concern you what MSNBC thinks, you have all made up your minds anyway.
However, it's nice to get into the mind of a professional reviewer. It's easier to see the little man behind the curtain.
byzantine horse wrote...
Little man? What's wrong with dwarfs?kbct wrote...
byzantine horse wrote...
Will just say this: It shouldn't concern you what MSNBC thinks, you have all made up your minds anyway.
However, it's nice to get into the mind of a professional reviewer. It's easier to see the little man behind the curtain.
Besides, his opinion shouldn't make him small or big. You are simply disagreeing on a comparatively small matter.
Aesieru wrote...
The Razman wrote...
Explain, then.Aesieru wrote...
The Razman wrote...
In other words ... because the first attempt at "countering" failed so badly?Aesieru wrote...
You can ignore the codex if you like, but my other statement was merely to counter you in another way
You pointed to a codex entry with the word "instantaneous" in it, a word which can be interpreted in a multitude of ways. I pointed to a video showing us mass relay transit actually happening in game. I think my evidence is slightly stronger, no?
No it was perfect, you obviously can't argue with the codex, to do so would be ignorant, and idiotic.
/endofargument
Easy, DRAMATIC EFFECT, it's called movie magic meant for drama and impact, to get anticipation of arriving. Usually it is handwaved because people expect it in our society of entertainment these days.
Deadmac wrote...
Wow! Praise from Ceaser.The Razman wrote...
http://video.msnbc.m...n-game/46814813
Cue frothing at the mouth from everyone.
Even though FOX News has its problems, MSNBC is one of the most bigoted, anti-religious, anti-constitutional, and Democrat buttocks loving news networks to ever exist. Regardless about what side they take, MSNBC's support is equivalent to getting an endorsement from Satan.
Robhuzz wrote...
Okay so either this guy got paid a lot by EA, or he hasn't played ME at all. Not sure which.
"The ending was on theme with the rest of the Mass Effect universe"
No sir, you are wrong. It was nothing like the rest of the Mass Effect universe. It featured space magic never seen before and introduced whole new plots that makes the rest of the trilogy obsolete and the execution was so bad I could cry. Good day to you. Can't really be bothered listening to the rest of this...
The Razman wrote...
We describe it as a "shockwave" because we don't know what else to call it. The misnomer is something that everyone will recognise, as opposed to calling it something more accurate like "the wave", or "the disturbance", or "the Catalyst's solution". That's not an argument.Farbautisonn wrote...
The Razman wrote...
Not even the staunchest of defenders of plotholes stands behind that under scrutiny. "A mass relay only explodes when you blow it up, not when you use all of its energy to create a shockwave" isn't hard to grasp.
-I stand behind that. because a "shockwave" is one that emminates from a center of impact, event, or explosion. Like the waves of someone throwing a rock in a pond.
The Arrival states that relays blow up when destroyed because all their energy has to be released. Well, the energy is being released here. You're projecting a wave of energy which can permeate the entire galaxy. Energy = used, rather than released in an explosion. Again ... not a concept that's hard to grasp.
Giubba1985 wrote...
You are PART of the community not THE community.
You can convince yourself that 50k people that press that ****ing thumbs up button on facebook make you THE community but it is not.
And quite frankly as part of THE SAME community as you are in, i'm quite insulted from this continuos attempts to make like you (the hold line movement )speak for me and people like me that do not share your opinion on the ending.
Modifié par durasteel, 26 mars 2012 - 06:11 .
The Razman wrote...
We describe it as a "shockwave" because we don't know what else to call it. The misnomer is something that everyone will recognise, as opposed to calling it something more accurate like "the wave", or "the disturbance", or "the Catalyst's solution". That's not an argument.
The Arrival states that relays blow up when destroyed because all their energy has to be released. Well, the energy is being released here. You're projecting a wave of energy which can permeate the entire galaxy. Energy = used, rather than released in an explosion. Again ... not a concept that's hard to grasp.
durasteel wrote...
PoliteAssasin wrote...
Do people honestly care about what msnbc thinks? They're the ign of regular news media. Nobody watches them.
-Polite
Clearly you don't. I have to point out, though, that your review of MSNBC seems to suffer from the same problem as the MSNBC review of Mass Effect 3.
I find some of their programming to be pretty good. I appreciate the fact that their pundits confess their bias instead of pretending to be "fair and balanced."
... what in the name of heck are you all talking about? Please, for the love of god, if you're going to make statements about "the Omega 4 relay is different" ... back it up with some reference to things in the game? This is all speculation which doesn't seem to be based in any kind of consistent logic.fwc577 wrote...
InvincibleHero wrote...
@ the Omega 4 relay fight.
It was implied that transit was going to be faster through that relay than normal by the power readings going off the grid and the fact acceleration is way above normal. Who's to say games and movies have instances of compression of time and decompression of time. You also have in game Joker telling you it will take this much time to reacjh destination even though you are at the relays. IT is faster than ftl but in many spots game implies it takes hours or days to make the trip. The cutscene in the Omega 4 played out more like real time than bullet time.
Just because something requires more power and the engines produce more power as a result doesn't mean it is going to go faster. The extra power that the engine is producing could merely be the power the IFF needs to transmit its signal so the Normandy isn't ripped to shreds upon arrival.
The engine on the Normandy isn't just used to accelerate the normandy, just like a car today, the engines sole pupose isn't to make the car go forward. It has functions other than acceleration.
durasteel wrote...
The ending didn't go ever my head. I have a doctorate degree (Jurisprudence) and I have studied philosophy and history enough to minor in them when I was a business major in college. I read a lot. Like most people, I have my share of self-doubt, but one thing I feel pretty comfortable with is my intellect and education.
I was disappointed with the ending, frustrated with its inadequacy, and really sad that such a great game and series of games was concluded on such a sour note. I was not angry, however, until some people began to throw around this idea that we just didn't understand how great this ending was.
Unfortunately, it isn't just a few ignorant reviewers. Dr. Muzyka's statement advanced or perpetuated the notion that we really just needed explanation or clarification of the ending to the game. I find that to be insulting. As a community, we've spent weeks pouring over the ending, studying every detail and considering every nuance in the context of the game and the series as a whole. What has become very evident to me is that unless the indoctrination "conspiracy theory" turns out to be true, we have spent more time thinking about the ending of Mass Effect 3 in two weeks than the design team spent over the last 2 years.
We, the community, are not the problem. We didn't screw up the ending. It is unfortunate that some reviewers and media personalities who haven't taken the time to really understand the ending, its implications, and its context nevertheless feel justified in labeling this a "controversy" and placing the blame for it upon us. I suppose it takes a lot less time to call a group "entitled" than it does to gain a thorough understanding of what the hell you're talking about.
Many of these reviewers probably don't have that kind of time available before they submit their review of the game, because their publisher has given them a deadline which impacts the quality of their work. I imagine the Mass Effect team at BioWare Edmonton can sympathize.
Modifié par VictoriousMarch, 26 mars 2012 - 07:38 .
Kandid001 wrote...
Oh please not this "entitlement" garbage again...
Giubba1985 wrote...
durasteel wrote...
The ending didn't go ever my head. I have a doctorate degree (Jurisprudence) and I have studied philosophy and history enough to minor in them when I was a business major in college. I read a lot. Like most people, I have my share of self-doubt, but one thing I feel pretty comfortable with is my intellect and education.
I was disappointed with the ending, frustrated with its inadequacy, and really sad that such a great game and series of games was concluded on such a sour note. I was not angry, however, until some people began to throw around this idea that we just didn't understand how great this ending was.
Unfortunately, it isn't just a few ignorant reviewers. Dr. Muzyka's statement advanced or perpetuated the notion that we really just needed explanation or clarification of the ending to the game. I find that to be insulting. As a community, we've spent weeks pouring over the ending, studying every detail and considering every nuance in the context of the game and the series as a whole. What has become very evident to me is that unless the indoctrination "conspiracy theory" turns out to be true, we have spent more time thinking about the ending of Mass Effect 3 in two weeks than the design team spent over the last 2 years.
We, the community, are not the problem. We didn't screw up the ending. It is unfortunate that some reviewers and media personalities who haven't taken the time to really understand the ending, its implications, and its context nevertheless feel justified in labeling this a "controversy" and placing the blame for it upon us. I suppose it takes a lot less time to call a group "entitled" than it does to gain a thorough understanding of what the hell you're talking about.
Many of these reviewers probably don't have that kind of time available before they submit their review of the game, because their publisher has given them a deadline which impacts the quality of their work. I imagine the Mass Effect team at BioWare Edmonton can sympathize.
You are PART of the community not THE community.
You can convince yourself that 50k people that press that ****ing thumbs up button on facebook make you THE community but it is not.
And quite frankly as part of THE SAME community as you are in, i'm quite insulted from this continuos attempts to make like you (the hold line movement )speak for me and people like me that do not share your opinion on the ending.
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