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[Kandid001]

There's a link to his Facebook account on the video page, someone should contact him and ask some questions.

[da mighty rEAper]

MASS EFFECT 3

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-dialogue choices are lot less but differ greatly compared to rest of the trilogy
-better controls(cover usage, running, tumbles)
-character relationship feels more alive( both between crew members and shep with his/her LI )

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-story is silly (that crucible **** is so dumb)
-tailored for multiplayer
-retarded and uninteresting sidequests(eavesdropping)
-plot of other trilogy games was changed for some retarded( or just extremely bad executed) technological singularity idea
-despite refusing they still failed with day one dlc, as to there is no reason to not include such valuable content in the game
-reapers are dumb (oh hi dere Sovereign)
-Cerberus and TIM storywise potential is COMPLETELY WASTED
-retarded antagonist (that asian assassin is so retarded, i almost felt like i was watching some stupid anime)

thats not all

[jess05]

Why is it some say those who hate the ending dont understand it?

Yet they (the self proclaimed intellegent ones) fail to see the plot holes it creates and the fact it goes against previously established lore, etc.
Which is the real reason many do not like it.
I suppose thats all easy to miss if they never played all 3 games though.

It's not a matter of understanding it. It was understood when Deus Ex done the same thing.
It doesnt fit here though.



They can try to make it look as brilliant as they choose, and ignore all of these things, but the sad reality is ..
You can't polish a turd.

[Nepp]

haha.. ME3 has a complex ending.. hahaha. haha heee *wipes tears*

It's not. It's a silly Deus Ex machina trope, only used by writers who cannot think of and write a decent enough ending on their own.

[da mighty rEAper]

MASS EFFECT 3

}(+){

-dialogue choices are lot less but differ greatly compared to rest of the trilogy
-better controls(cover usage, running, tumbles)
-character relationship feels more alive( both between crew members and shep with his/her LI )

}(-){

-story is silly (that crucible **** is so dumb)
-tailored for multiplayer
-retarded and uninteresting sidequests(eavesdropping)
-plot of other trilogy games was changed for some retarded( or just extremely bad executed) technological singularity idea
-despite refusing they still failed with day one dlc, as to there is no reason to not include such valuable content in the game
-reapers are dumb (oh hi dere Sovereign)
-Cerberus and TIM storywise potential is COMPLETELY WASTED
-retarded antagonist (that asian assassin is so retarded, i almost felt like i was watching some stupid anime)

thats not all

[Saint Op]

I think what he is trying to say is that its okay to disagree with him but that just means you are stupid...sorta like a retake banner=BSN dunce cap....
bsnbc...

[PillarBiter]

I'm sorry, but the ending isn't really complex or 'a thinker'. It's actually quite the opposite.

And bioware can make the ending whatever they want, it's their right. Just as it's our right to be dissapointed by it.

[PaddlePop]

Lol, apparently we just can't comprehend how awesomely awesome and artistic the endings are. Those who do not agree with the Party line, are illiterate and uneducated "neanderthals". Or as this guys calls us... idiots.

http://www.lazygamer...idiots-bioware/

Kudos on taking the elitist view Bioware. You guys sure know how to not ****** off the fans. I hope they know we're actually the guys who pay for their salaries.

[Vesper12]

He should really go see a doctor... clearly something is wrong with him

[StabGuy]

Bcoolpro wrote...

StabGuy wrote...

His job paid him to make that video, just as his job doesn't want him upsetting developers.

So he isn't in a position to say it's a bad ending.

Reviewers are bribed with exclusives and sneak-peak views of future titles. It's what keeps their services one step ahead of the rest.

This argument doesn't make sense to me... just because he is paid to offer an opinion (one that differs from yours) then it means he's a corporate shill?  By that logic pro-sports aren't sports because the athletes are getting paid.

He says there is nothing wrong with the ending. Described it in his own words, but doesn't back up with facts.
He spends too much time hyping the game. From in game footage to cinematics, plus reading from a script instead of talking on-screen.

If you can't see this then that's your loss.

Arguing with me and supporting that fake isn't going to make your reality any clearer.

[Tovanus]

Bcoolpro wrote...

StabGuy wrote...

His job paid him to make that video, just as his job doesn't want him upsetting developers.

So he isn't in a position to say it's a bad ending.

Reviewers are bribed with exclusives and sneak-peak views of future titles. It's what keeps their services one step ahead of the rest.

This argument doesn't make sense to me... just because he is paid to offer an opinion (one that differs from yours) then it means he's a corporate shill?  By that logic pro-sports aren't sports because the athletes are getting paid.

The analogy doesn't make sense at all for athletes. It's pretty direct with reviewers. "Give us good reviews, and we'll continue to give you access to previews and exclusive interviews from time to time that will generate hits for your site." When your job is to be critical of something, and you materially gain from giving good reviews, that's where the problem lies. The problem isn't that you benefit from giving reviews, it's that you benefit from giving good reviews while presenting yourself as an "objective" reviewer.

Not that I've checked the article. And even people who believe reviewers from news sites tend to just go to IGN. I can't imagine anyone making their decision to buy a game because they heard MSNBC said it was good. Though if the MSNBC guy thought the ending wasn't full of plotholes and was complex, that tells me that MSNBC must have a culture that views ridiculous gaps in logic as deep and thoughtful.

Modifié par Tovanus, 25 mars 2012 - 06:00 .

[AlanC9]

Tovanus wrote...
 I can't imagine anyone making their decision to buy a game because they heard MSNBC said it was good.

Which reviewers do players listen to? About the only one I really pay attention to is Seth Schiesel from the New York Times. Who, incidentally, loved ME3 after being kind of lukewarm about ME2.

[Abirn]

Deadmac wrote...

The Razman wrote...

http://video.msnbc.m...n-game/46814813

Cue frothing at the mouth from everyone.

Wow! Praise from Ceaser.

Even though FOX News has its problems, MSNBC is one of the most bigoted, anti-religious, anti-constitutional, and Democrat buttocks loving news networks to ever exist. Regardless about what side they take, MSNBC's support is equivalent to getting an endorsement from Satan.

OH wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder. 

MSNBC wasn't the one ranting and raving about sideboob in ME1.

[Alexraptor1]

Imaginative? Complex? HAH!
There is NOTHING imaginative or complex with a DEUS EX MACHINA!

[jess05]

Why is it some say those who hate the ending dont understand it?

Yet they (the self proclaimed intellegent ones) fail to see the plot holes it creates and the fact it goes against previously established lore, etc.
Which is the real reason many do not like it.
I suppose thats all easy to miss if they never played all 3 games though.

It's not a matter of understanding it. It was understood when Deus Ex done the same thing.
It doesnt fit here though.

They can try to make it look as brilliant as they choose, and ignore all of these things, but the sad reality is ..
You can't polish a turd.

Lets say you played a game, and spent the entire game trying to find an alternate route into a building for whatever reason. Thats the entire focus of the game.

Then at the end of next game learn the key was under the front door mat. Would that not defeat the entire purpose of all you done previously and make it all just seem ... stupid?

The presence of the Catalyst does the same thing to the ME series.

[AlanC9]

Abirn, let's not start making fun of Fox in this thread. We'll never be able to stop.

[P47 ace]

Did FOX and MSNBC switch sides while i was not looking.
Fox was the one that was Like " OMG sex with alians in ME1, call the church our childern are in danger" and now they support the gamers and not a multi-million dollar gameing corperation

HAVE WE ALL BEEN INDOCTRATED or is this godchild's


I am so confused

[The Razman]

Deadmac wrote...

Wow! Praise from Ceaser.

Do you mean Caesar?

Even though FOX News has its problems, MSNBC is one of the most bigoted, anti-religious, anti-constitutional, and Democrat buttocks loving news networks to ever exist. Regardless about what side they take, MSNBC's support is equivalent to getting an endorsement from Satan.

Do you mean Santa?

[The Razman]

[quote]jess05 wrote...

Why is it some say those who hate the ending dont understand it?[/quote]
Nobody says that.

Some say that some of those who hate the ending don't understand it.[/quote]

[JunMadine]

I think one of the reasons we are put in such a negative light is because some of us (maybe me not really sure) were too harsh at the beginning of the retake movement. We may have not been as civil or constructive as we could have been.

[JunMadine]

Personally I have never been as passionate about a video game as I have to the Mass Effect series. I have not changed my opinion on the ending, but I want to be a positive influence for the movement.

[Arik7]

It is NOT a complex ending. That's the problem. Shepard's journey was complex, but the ending did not reflect that.
Also, the star child idea is silly.

[Trave11]

 that tells me that MSNBC must have a culture that views ridiculous gaps in logic as deep and thoughtful.

That is an apt description of MSNBC. The fact that MSNBC even exists is unbelievable to me.  

[AlanC9]

Trave11 wrote...

 that tells me that MSNBC must have a culture that views ridiculous gaps in logic as deep and thoughtful.

That is an apt description of MSNBC. The fact that MSNBC even exists is unbelievable to me.  

You mean we shoudln't have a network that tells the truth?