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[The Razman]

Aesieru wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?!

Did it ever occur to you that the shockwave in the cutscene is DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT than the PULSE released by the Crucible?

Becasue they are, you can even analyze the scene if you like.

... yes? That's exactly the point I was making?

Are you feeling ok?

Then you proved yourself wrong then.

The pulse isn't what Joker is running from, so no need to run, he's obviously not running from a giant beam of energy not targeting him either, and since he's not running from either he is therefore not at the relay that explodes into the nova that he is somehow running from.

... my brain hurts just trying to understand what you just said?

The pulse is what Joker is running from. Why would he run from a gigantic, system-enveloping shockwave of energy which he doesn't know what it does? Where's the sense in that?

[Salis777]

The Razman wrote...

*sigh* Again ... you know there's going to be an explosion. You've seen it, you're the player. How is Joker supposed to know the entire mass relay network is going to be destroyed?

No offence, but what you're doing is the equivilent of when kids watch the TV and say "Why is that lady trusting that man?? I just saw him steal stuff from her purse!!"

One would assume the Normandy/EDI have sensors.  I think that was part of the story/canon.  Plus the thing goes through the entire fleet, and I assume it takes more than a second for the Normandy to fly to Pluto.  THUS, I would conclude they would realise the shockwave was harmless.  Unless the entire fleet was annihilated, along with earth and the solar system.  Then I'd run.

Either way the ending is terrible.

[Aesieru]

The Razman wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?!

Did it ever occur to you that the shockwave in the cutscene is DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT than the PULSE released by the Crucible?

Becasue they are, you can even analyze the scene if you like.

... yes? That's exactly the point I was making?

Are you feeling ok?

Then you proved yourself wrong then.

The pulse isn't what Joker is running from, so no need to run, he's obviously not running from a giant beam of energy not targeting him either, and since he's not running from either he is therefore not at the relay that explodes into the nova that he is somehow running from.

... my brain hurts just trying to understand what you just said?

The pulse is what Joker is running from. Why would he run from a gigantic, system-enveloping shockwave of energy which he doesn't know what it does? Where's the sense in that?

The pulse was short range, and it happens too quick for him to decide to run from it, especially if the entirety of the fleet (granted it is Generic Fleet A which is not what we actually got in the game but instead the replacement because of plot holes and lack of continuity and laziness) that remains (we are losing because it's Generic Fleet A) is still around the planet. Also the fact it was destroying Reapers was also pretty important.

Additionally and this is the great part.

If he was somehow running from that, and hit the relay before the beam hit it, then since mass-free corridors of space are near instant or sometimes instanteous transport, there would actually be nothing to run from since he'd of beaten the nova, then of course the relays all explode and he dies from that (since it hits the entirety of the galaxy).

Too many plot holes.

[Garland7A]

Aesieru wrote...

"THERE ARE NO PLOTHOLES"

this is exactly where i turned off his opinion.

[Bocks]

"Mass Effect 3 had, what I think, a perfect endi-"

Closed.

Uninstalled Firefox.

Shut down computer.

Snapped Hard Drive and Router in half.

Punched a hole through my monitor.

Stole copies of Mass Effect 3 from my local Gamestop.

[Aesieru]

Bocks wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 had, what I think, a perfect endi-"

Closed.

Uninstalled Firefox.

Shut down computer.

Snapped Hard Drive and Router in half.

Punched a hole through my monitor.

Stole copies of Mass Effect 3 from my local Gamestop.

You may be irradiated, have mercury poisoning, and also have blood infections, also the ability to break your hard drive in half with your mind (since you didn't open the case) is IMPRESSIVE... also likely you were electrocuted.

[MICHELLE7]

Maybe he should rethink insinuating people are not intelligent enough to figure out the endings when he doesn't seem to be intelligent enough to see the obvious plot holes.

[The Love Runner]

Aesieru wrote...

Bocks wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 had, what I think, a perfect endi-"

Closed.

Uninstalled Firefox.

Shut down computer.

Snapped Hard Drive and Router in half.

Punched a hole through my monitor.

Stole copies of Mass Effect 3 from my local Gamestop.

You may be irradiated, have mercury poisoning, and also have blood infections, also the ability to break your hard drive in half with your mind (since you didn't open the case) is IMPRESSIVE... also likely you were electrocuted.

OR HE'S INDOCTRINATED!! WHAT A TWIST!!

[Bocks]

Aesieru wrote...

Bocks wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 had, what I think, a perfect endi-"

Closed.

Uninstalled Firefox.

Shut down computer.

Snapped Hard Drive and Router in half.

Punched a hole through my monitor.

Stole copies of Mass Effect 3 from my local Gamestop.

You may be irradiated, have mercury poisoning, and also have blood infections, also the ability to break your hard drive in half with your mind (since you didn't open the case) is IMPRESSIVE... also likely you were electrocuted.

Good. I'd rather die than listen to these idiots.

[The Razman]

Aesieru wrote...

The pulse was short range, and it happens too quick for him to decide to run from it

You can quite clearly see in the endings that the pulse is travelling quite slowly, in comparison to the speeds we know the Normandy can do.

If he was somehow running from that, and hit the relay before the beam hit it, then since mass-free corridors of space are near instant or sometimes instanteous transport, there would actually be nothing to run from since he'd of beaten the nova, then of course the relays all explode and he dies from that (since it hits the entirety of the galaxy).

Mass relays are not instantaneous transport. I don't know where you got that idea from.

[d.nichols]

Al-Jazeera's the best news source to the OP, but I don't think they review video games.

Also, Indoctrination Theory, because, hey... there were plotholes. Or at the very least there were instances that were distinctly different from lore-defined instances of the same nature that can only be explained through Space Magic.

The last cutscene creates several apparent inconsistencies with other lore that leaves us with questions, which we then, as an audience, are forced to fill in with only the former scenarios in the narrative as a glossary. If it doesn't fit that's called a "plothole". Hard concept I know, but when an audience has to speculate about why something was the way it was, then it's a plothole. You're speculating too, you're just doing it without precedent.

Modifié par d.nichols, 25 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[Horus Blackheart]

I just watched the video and I can't unsee that. This reviwer has no crediblity as far as i'm conserned. While i'm on the subject mass effect 3 was never intended to be high art. The same is true for deus ex, If you have to overly explane a concept till people "get it" and stop having issues with it then it's a failed concept. All this smoke and mirror artistic senseablity nonsense is activly blocking solutions.

[Impulse and Compulse]

So he calls us a vocal minority while he's one person who carries the authority of an entire news network?

So many things wrong with his statement.

[Aesieru]

The Razman wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

The pulse was short range, and it happens too quick for him to decide to run from it

You can quite clearly see in the endings that the pulse is travelling quite slowly, in comparison to the speeds we know the Normandy can do.

If he was somehow running from that, and hit the relay before the beam hit it, then since mass-free corridors of space are near instant or sometimes instanteous transport, there would actually be nothing to run from since he'd of beaten the nova, then of course the relays all explode and he dies from that (since it hits the entirety of the galaxy).

Mass relays are not instantaneous transport. I don't know where you got that idea from.

The codex.

 

Modifié par Aesieru, 25 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[terdferguson123]

Bocks wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 had, what I think, a perfect endi-"

Closed.

Uninstalled Firefox.

Shut down computer.

Snapped Hard Drive and Router in half.

Punched a hole through my monitor.

Stole copies of Mass Effect 3 from my local Gamestop.

Opinions. They make you that mad?

[d.nichols]

Aesieru wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

The pulse was short range, and it happens too quick for him to decide to run from it

You can quite clearly see in the endings that the pulse is travelling quite slowly, in comparison to the speeds we know the Normandy can do.

If he was somehow running from that, and hit the relay before the beam hit it, then since mass-free corridors of space are near instant or sometimes instanteous transport, there would actually be nothing to run from since he'd of beaten the nova, then of course the relays all explode and he dies from that (since it hits the entirety of the galaxy).

Mass relays are not instantaneous transport. I don't know where you got that idea from.

The codex.

 

^LOL +1

Edit: The word I was looking for was: OWNED

Modifié par d.nichols, 25 mars 2012 - 10:18 .

[Salis777]

Aesieru wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

The pulse was short range, and it happens too quick for him to decide to run from it

You can quite clearly see in the endings that the pulse is travelling quite slowly, in comparison to the speeds we know the Normandy can do.

If he was somehow running from that, and hit the relay before the beam hit it, then since mass-free corridors of space are near instant or sometimes instanteous transport, there would actually be nothing to run from since he'd of beaten the nova, then of course the relays all explode and he dies from that (since it hits the entirety of the galaxy).

Mass relays are not instantaneous transport. I don't know where you got that idea from.

The codex.

 

Oh snap!@

[Aesieru]

Granted the issues of relays have always been a plot-hole surrounded by plot-holes based on their function and quantum-shielding.

Modifié par Aesieru, 25 mars 2012 - 10:19 .

[Esquin]

Another random fool who says the endings are good but fails to address the problems that are proven to exist in them. All this does is show his own foolishness and lack of intelligence.

The fact is that the problems with the ending are a matter of fact. They exist, there is no question and no debating them. There are very real concerns with the ending. Concerns that no ending lover seems able to address. To me this says that while some people may enjoy the ending, it is they who have had it go over their heads. If you cannot see the obvious flaws that exist then you are the one with a problem.

So yes. There are problems with the ending. This is a fact, not an opinion. You can disagree all you like, but unless you can address the issues specifically and not just provide a vague generic response then you are wrong in your beliefs that the ending was good. It's like in high school math. It doesn't matter what answer you give, if you can't show how you got to that answer then you're going to get 0.

[pmac_tk421]

The ending was fine. Damn it everyone, you set back our efforts to make gamers look like normal people by 20 years.

[Aesieru]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The ending was fine. Damn it everyone, you set back our efforts to make gamers look like normal people by 20 years.

You mean the normal people who express outrage at things they feel outrage at? Such as at protests against corporations and police brutality and college tuition rates, and other such things? Or the normal people who kill children and their parents while running in front of their car so as to get them to stop so that they can get their car from them?

Those normal people?

[pmac_tk421]

Aesieru wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The ending was fine. Damn it everyone, you set back our efforts to make gamers look like normal people by 20 years.

You mean the normal people who express outrage at things they feel outrage at? Such as at protests against corporations and police brutality and college tuition rates, and other such things? Or the normal people who kill children and their parents while running in front of their car so as to get them to stop so that they can get their car from them?

Those normal people?

I think you know what I'm trying to get at. Many people, including those guys at fox news are trying to paint as anti social nerds. A lot of people think we're strange, and while normal people aren't exactly perfect, at least we won't be looked down upon when they accept us.

[Aesieru]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The ending was fine. Damn it everyone, you set back our efforts to make gamers look like normal people by 20 years.

You mean the normal people who express outrage at things they feel outrage at? Such as at protests against corporations and police brutality and college tuition rates, and other such things? Or the normal people who kill children and their parents while running in front of their car so as to get them to stop so that they can get their car from them?

Those normal people?

I think you know what I'm trying to get at. Many people, including those guys at fox news are trying to paint as anti social nerds. A lot of people think we're strange, and while normal people aren't exactly perfect, at least we won't be looked down upon when they accept us.

So you're saying that, provided we're apparently some subset of Humanity, that we SHOULDN'T look down on them? You know because of what they do that's 10x worse and the destruction of society as we know it?

I don't care what FOX News thinks, or CNN or MSNBC, they are crap news channels that are 100% owned by corporations looking for money. Maybe when it was illegal to own more than 49% of a news company they were impartial, they aren't now.

Modifié par Aesieru, 25 mars 2012 - 10:40 .

[Salis777]

Aesieru wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The ending was fine. Damn it everyone, you set back our efforts to make gamers look like normal people by 20 years.

You mean the normal people who express outrage at things they feel outrage at? Such as at protests against corporations and police brutality and college tuition rates, and other such things? Or the normal people who kill children and their parents while running in front of their car so as to get them to stop so that they can get their car from them?

Those normal people?

I think you know what I'm trying to get at. Many people, including those guys at fox news are trying to paint as anti social nerds. A lot of people think we're strange, and while normal people aren't exactly perfect, at least we won't be looked down upon when they accept us.

So you're saying that, provided we're apparently some subset of Humanity, that we SHOULDN'T look down on them? You know because of what they do that's 10x worse and the destruction of society as we know it?

I don't care what FOX News thinks, or CNN or MSNBC, they are crap news channels that are 100% owned by corporations looking for money. Maybe before it was illegal to own more than 49% of a news company they were impartial, they aren't now.

This.  At best they're entertainment, at worst they're someones agenda (i.e. keep the little people sidetracked while the banks eat the country)

Modifié par Salis777, 25 mars 2012 - 10:39 .

[d.nichols]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The ending was fine. Damn it everyone, you set back our efforts to make gamers look like normal people by 20 years.

Damn, at this rate gamers will look like normal people in... like 2837173112838 years.