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Admit it, It's not really a theory anymore is it.


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DangerDavidson

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 Can we stop calling IT a theory? Its so blatantly obvious what is going on at this point. We need to bin the people saying:

    - I hate the ending it doesnt make sense
    - The ending is fine I like it they way it is because it made a lot of sense to me that 2001 space oddysey child is the boss of e'erything.

into the following category:

    - I didn't get that Shepard is being indoctrinated.

I normally do not care this much about people's opinions of video games, but I am seeing a LOT of posts of the like:

[/i] [/i] [/i] · Open[/list]@[/s]masseffect[/b] Unlike most people i loved the ending, don't plan on paying for an alternate if u make one as DLC. Not supposed to end happy.


[/i] [/i] [/i] · Open[/list]@[/s]masseffect[/b] It is so hard to be mad at your company. Please make this right. Your fans wanted the promised closure to the great ME series.


Don't mean to single those people out, just random snippets I pulled off twitter. My only issue with these types of mass responses is that they will force bioware to do something stupid in the long run like change the existing story. Obviously the ending DLC patch that is coming in April is already/mostly complete so it likely will do nothing to affect that. However, it is definitely possible/easy for them to add little snippets of dialogue or something that make the surprise more obvious. I feel like making it more obvious detracts from the entertainment value.

It's also quite strange to me that this staggering number of people doesn't have the ability to go do a little in-game/online exploring and see what its actually all about. That, or they are just ignoring it for...whatever reason >.>.

I feel like the word theory here is being used in the same way that Creationists use it to debate the reality of Evolution:

a proposed explanation whos status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation


where it really should be:

a coherent group of tested propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explenation and prediction for a class of phenomena.


The IT is not rampant speculation. It has a very concerete set of evidence behind it. I'm sure other theories have substantial evidence behind them as well..(probably...well...maybe........yeah I haven't really seen any so far :P), but this one is fairly logically complete.

My point is: stop it, and wait.


PS. I see a lot of posts below about the "plot holes" in IT. Would one of you be willing to lay out what you think those plot holes actually are? As far as I can tell, there are none and it actually consolidates all of the plotholes in the current ending:

1. Harbinger/Reapers come to earth, start indoctrinating Shepard.
2. There may or may not be an indoctrination device on the normandy (James Vega and his "wtf humming" quotes)
3. Dreams of loser child hallucination are meant to break shepard's hope.
4. Harbinger blast shepard at Conduit 2.0 and while he is on the ground continues to try to break him.

An indoctrinated Shepard, the "hero of the galaxy" would be an excellent reaper weapon.

From another post: http://www.twitch.tv...one/b/312765460

Modifié par DangerDavidson, 26 mars 2012 - 05:03 .


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Torga_DW

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wow, pass the bong dude. I want a hit of what you're smoking.

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Torga_DW wrote...

wow, pass the bong dude. I want a hit of what you're smoking.


And some nachos.

What the hell are you trying to say?

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That word you use... I don't think it means what you think it means...

Yeah... nitpicky... but it really bothers me, specially cause people then end up confusing the colloquial use of theory with the scientific one.

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Jaze55

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sigh

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Bomma72

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Sorry not understanding what you are getting at.

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sorentoft

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It's a theory because it has no proof.

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Gyspy Jive

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Torga_DW wrote...

wow, pass the bong dude. I want a hit of what you're smoking.


I'd love to smoke some pot right now. 

But, to OP, I agree with ya completely.

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blackangel209

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This might be the most confusing, disjointed post I've ever read in reference to anything...

And that includes my time on 4chan.

Modifié par blackangel209, 25 mars 2012 - 08:22 .


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Aerevane

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I tried Opening Poster, believe me I tried. But BioWare failed too hard. I can't Opening Poster, I can't! Goodbye Opening Poster!

*logout

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Guest_Dominus Solanum_*

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http://social.biowar.../index/10582165

This guy really nails my feelings on the IT. If you don't want to watch, basically he says that he's read everything there possibly is about it and can't find a single thing the theory brings up that couldn't be explained by the game creators simply not caring. In the end, the fan base cares way more about the game then the people that made it.

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Mafia666xxx

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Hey OP--Quit hogging the bong!

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Archer

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If its more Indoctrintion Theory is real im going to cut my own head off Image IPB

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 25 mars 2012 - 08:24 .


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DangerDavidson

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sorentoft wrote...

It's a theory because it has no proof.


Harbinger death laser = dream trees + marauder shields?
Citadel architecture = cerberus + SB ship + citadel + collector base?
TIM suicide = Saren suicide?
5000 AMS + destroy = only possibility of survival?

Hallucination = Hallucination

QED

Modifié par DangerDavidson, 25 mars 2012 - 08:26 .


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Grasich

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OP... you need to do some clarifying.

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DangerDavidson wrote...

sorentoft wrote...

It's a theory because it has no proof.


Harbinger death laser = dream trees + marauder shields?
Citadel architecture = cerberus + SB ship + citadel + collector base?
TIM suicide = Saren suicide?
5000 AMS + destroy = only possibility of survival?

Hallucination/Dream = Hallucination/Dream



Apophenia.

No need for speculation.

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Megachaz

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You're right. It's not a theory because it's been proven false.

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DangerDavidson

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Megachaz wrote...

You're right. It's not a theory because it's been proven false.


Not even once has it been PROVEN false....

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I personally don't think that the Indoctrination theory is correct. We would've seen evidence and notifications about it from Bioware by now.

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DangerDavidson wrote...

Megachaz wrote...

You're right. It's not a theory because it's been proven false.


Not even once has it been PROVEN false....


Apophenia.

SCIENCE.

GOOGLE IT.

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This thread is one step away from shouting in the streets at people passing by. This indoctrination theory will always be a theory until the DLC comes out

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blackangel209

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Megachaz wrote...

You're right. It's not a theory because it's been proven false.

I don't think the word 'prove' means what you seem to think it does.

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HumingTurtle

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Wtf are you saying boy?

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sorentoft wrote...

It's a theory because it has no proof.



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DangerDavidson

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sorentoft wrote...

Apophenia.

No need for speculation.


One of the most successful entertainment companies, responsible for KOTOR, BG, etc etc, suddenly acquiring the storytelling skills of a ten year old: highly likely.

Oh wait. No.