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[MaYtriX]

 Like saving david archer, you see him at grissom academy. 
Saving Samara, you see her later on, but not morinth.
Curing the genophage, you eventually get slarian support.
Saving maelon's data, you use it to save eve.
Destroying the geth heretics, you can untie the Quarians and Geth together later on.

[CombustiblePanda]

I thought rewriting the Heretics was the Paragon option?

[GigaTheToast]

That's a life lesson Mass Effect has been trying to teach you. "Don't be a dick, it never goes well."

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

well choosing renegade options often leads to the death of people and people generally dislike you

[MaYtriX]

Renegade options usually mean "do whatever it takes, no matter what"
Should be SOME rewards for the big renegade options.

[Taboo]

GigaTheToast wrote...

That's a life lesson Mass Effect has been trying to teach you. "Don't be a dick, it never goes well."

[BARRAGE 74]

MaYtriX wrote...

Renegade options usually mean "do whatever it takes, no matter what"
Should be SOME rewards for the big renegade options.

Well you're still a badass.  Albiet a lonely badass.

[Luxure]

Having friends pays off, you know.

PS Where is everyone getting those .....deservers a better ending signatures ? Can't find the thread

[Hirdas]

rewrite heretics is renegade.

[LadyofRivendell]

Actually, the only way to get the Salarian's support is to kill Wrex on Virmire and lie to the Krogan, both of which are Renegade options.

[Zix13]

I agree. Renegades are supposed to be to practical ones. Willing to sacrifice, but not willing to lose 20 men to save 1. Renegades should come out ahead of paragons for that reason.

[Kreid]

Well, being pragmatic and all is good but it's not going to make you many friends, and, having friends pays off.

[Rickin10]

It's rather unrealistic from that point of view. Sure, there are times when being compassionate and 'good' will reap rewards, but look at a lot of incredibly successful people in life and tell me they didn't get where they are by being driven, win-at-all-costs ****holes. There should have been a better spread of pluses and minuses to both attitudes.

[Llames]

Rewritiing is Paragon.

Curing genophage gave _me_ no salarian support? Or maybe like a tiny bit worth less than 100 overall war assets.

'Faking' the genophage gives you both Krogan AND salarian (I don't know, but this is what i heard) support? You just lose the 25-50 war assets from Wrex, or so I heard - If he's even alive from the first game .

[Barnaclebob]

Hirdas wrote...

rewrite heretics is renegade.

No it's not. Destroying herectics in 2 is renegade, rewriting them is paragon.

[Vexille]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Actually, the only way to get the Salarian's support is to kill Wrex on Virmire and lie to the Krogan, both of which are Renegade options.

dont u still get salarian support after you save their councilar from kei lang?

[DarkSpiral]

[quote]MaYtriX wrote...

 Like saving david archer, you see him at grissom academy.[/quote]

No arguement here, that's truth.

[qutoe]
Saving Samara, you see her later on, but not morinth.[/quote]
I'm not really sure this is a Renegade otpion actually.  I don't recall getting points for that choice.  Do you?  And even if it were true, I'm neve been able to make that choice because ti seemd liked such an incredibly bad idea to bring a psychic vampire on board my ship...

And you do see her.  Sort of.  The Reapers make her into a Banshee.  She's named.  I'd call it an Easter Egg.

[quote]Curing the genophage, you eventually get slarian support.[/quote]
You get the support of SOME Salarians, yes.  The fleet you get from sabatoging the cure is much larger, however.  Even if you ****** the Dalatress off, some of the people among the Salarians realize that the reapers have to stopped, regardless of your choice of allies.  So....no.  That doesn't reward the Paragon options.  It's simply always there.

[quote]Saving maelon's data, you use it to save eve[/quote]

No argument here, again.

[quote]Destroying the geth heretics, you can untie the Quarians and Geth together later on.[/quote]

That's the Renegade option.  Doing so makes it much easier to broker a peace on Rannoch, so that's actually a clear reward for the Renegade choice.

Modifié par DarkSpiral, 25 mars 2012 - 09:18 .

[Cazlee]

...but renegades have more fun. Punching people, getting the consort, pulling a gun on Conrad.

[Navasha]

My Renegade who fooled the Krogan and didn't cure the genophage kept Mordin alive and he helped on the crucible. Kelly... My Paragon wasn't paranoid and didn't tell her to change her name. She died as a result.

[Narkeh]

Well I saved the rachni queen...got assets and ravagers -.-....oh do I hate those bastards

Can't save udina, Kaiden/Ashley kills him anyways (I was hoping I could extrapolate the hows/whys he did what he did :/)

Giving TIM the collector base does, story and gameplay wise, nothing whatsoever...

Most of the quick time choices in Mass effect 3 always begin as Renegade, seemed an odd recurring theme until the end and then you go, AH!

[lomifeh]

You can still get peace if you rewrite the Heretics. Trade-off is less Quarian support though in the War Assets. Also saving the council means the Alliance War Asset fleets are less. So Paragon does have costs. Some options are less clear cut on what are really Paragon/Renegade. I mean technically saving the Admiral and letting his crew die is a Renegade option but it isn't treated as such.

[Aubairjin]

As said before, a full renegade playthrough allow to get both krogan and salarian support.

In the same way, choosing the save the quarian admiral at the cost of his crew is a renegade action, yet is one of the factor to get both Quarian and Geth support.

Being Renegade is rewarded, as long as it's logical. You don't get reward when you are incoherent. (-> saving wrex, being a dick with genophage = loose)

[DarkSpiral]

Vexille wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Actually, the only way to get the Salarian's support is to kill Wrex on Virmire and lie to the Krogan, both of which are Renegade options.

dont u still get salarian support after you save their councilar from kei lang?

You get a few ships.  But not the full spport of the Salarian government, which is what you get for sabotaging the genophage cure.

[Zix13]

DarkSpiral wrote...


I'm not really sure this is a Renegade otpion actually.  I don't recall getting points for that choice.  Do you?  And even if it were true, I'm neve been able to make that choice because ti seemd liked such an incredibly bad idea to bring a psychic vampire on board my ship...

And you do see her.  Sort of.  The Reapers make her into a Banshee.  She's named.  I'd call it an Easter Egg.

God damn, people who haven't played renegade in me2. Samara tells you she'll kill you after the suicide mission if you're renegade. At that point, taking Morinth does make sense.

Modifié par Zix13, 25 mars 2012 - 09:21 .

[mackan__s]

Remind me if i've been wrong, but wasnt there a thread about just this before game-release, but totally opposite.. There where someone mentioning about how fully paragons should be punhised for beeing so. Instead there was the Renegades that where punished. Thank good that i am an Paragon. Tali dies, Wrex dies... and so on, and so on..

Modifié par mackan__s, 25 mars 2012 - 09:21 .