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[Vulcan101]

 www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/21/did-the-real-mass-effect-3-ending-go-over-everyones-heads/


Basically he is starting to think bioware did not drop the ball artistically with the end, as it is a false ending with the real ending coming in DLC

however, from a gamer customer perspective he states that it would likely cause even more rage since people never got the "real ending" on the disc. 

He does think the DLC ending ( if exists) ought to be free.

[oblique9]

 I'm starting to think that the ending was rushed, they had a deadline and didn't have time to polish it, so they cut content and are now going to include that content in whatever 'closure' DLC they will have. Probably won't allow Shep to see his squad again, but who knows.

[Poizun85]

Oh there will be Hell if it isn't free. It's like if I paid to see Sixth Sense and had to pay again just to see closure on the plot twist...

[mredders91]

[UrgentArchengel]

oblique9 wrote...

 I'm starting to think that the ending was rushed, they had a deadline and didn't have time to polish it, so they cut content and are now going to include that content in whatever 'closure' DLC they will have. Probably won't allow Shep to see his squad again, but who knows.

[Vulcan101]

@Mr redder. Would you agree if no changes only additional content that "clarifies" the ending is it more likely the indoc theory is true and the entire end was a test?

[BeefoTheBold]

To me, a false ending with a need to BUY the real ending would be even worse than just turning out a complete turd of an ending to begin with.

[MrLee95]

mredders91 wrote...

You can still have the indoctrination
theory without changing the existing ending that is already in place.

Just sayin!

[jojon2se]

Have you noticed that Dr.Ray says that the team are working on: "a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions"? -Plural?

[Tirigon]

Vulcan101 wrote...

 www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/21/did-the-real-mass-effect-3-ending-go-over-everyones-heads/


Basically he is starting to think bioware did not drop the ball artistically with the end, as it is a false ending with the real ending coming in DLC

however, from a gamer customer perspective he states that it would likely cause even more rage since people never got the "real ending" on the disc. 

He does think the DLC ending ( if exists) ought to be free.

But when you stop and consider it, the decision to handle such a twist the way they did would remain creatively atrocious. I’ve recently speculated
that the “sameness” of the endings is really a plot to sell more DLC,
as if there were three different, complete endings, that wouldn’t be in
the cards. The fact is, even if the last sequence is the
indoctrination process, it’s still a gut punch to fans to cut out a true
ending, and sell it later as DLC, which I now believe has been their
intention all along.

This is what I have been saying all along, except for the fact that I do not trust BioWare to have planned it.

[tetrisblock4x1]

I'm just glad I didn't buy ME3.

[hurricaneez2]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

oblique9 wrote...

 I'm starting to think that the ending was rushed, they had a deadline and didn't have time to polish it, so they cut content and are now going to include that content in whatever 'closure' DLC they will have. Probably won't allow Shep to see his squad again, but who knows.

 

This has been my theory all along. Starting with DA2 I think EA has been placing unrealistic deadlines on Bioware games. 

Modifié par hurricaneez2, 26 mars 2012 - 12:42 .

[Atakuma]

It could just mean adding some extra cut scenes and dialogue for all we know. I'll just wait to see what is said at PAX.

[Tazzmission]

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

[BeefoTheBold]

Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

Or, alternatively, they incorporate new thoughts and new information and evaluate it as it comes along?

In what way is the push to get a halfway decent set of endings, to basically make Bioware deliver what they have promised for years, "hypocritcal".

Please do explain.

[kbct]

Forbes is looking at the ending from all angles. I like it.

[Rockworm503]

Vulcan101 wrote...

 www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/21/did-the-real-mass-effect-3-ending-go-over-everyones-heads/


Basically he is starting to think bioware did not drop the ball artistically with the end, as it is a false ending with the real ending coming in DLC

however, from a gamer customer perspective he states that it would likely cause even more rage since people never got the "real ending" on the disc. 

He does think the DLC ending ( if exists) ought to be free.

Thats just it.
Its a no win for Bioware and terrible marketing no matter how you spin it.
Their either lazy writers who dropped the ball.
or their greedy and looking to nickle and diming?
And you gotta ask yourself would this be happening if they weren't under EA.

[Tazzmission]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

Or, alternatively, they incorporate new thoughts and new information and evaluate it as it comes along?

In what way is the push to get a halfway decent set of endings, to basically make Bioware deliver what they have promised for years, "hypocritcal".

Please do explain.

show me one article one statement by any bioware employee that said they promissed a choice in the endings

if you cant provide an actual statement on that then yes you are twisting everything around


this board is filled with hypocrites and heres why


2 years ago posters have demanded the squad be changed from 12 back to the me1 type wich was 6 and you got it and yet still moan cry and say bioware never listened to those fans

fans even asked for a better customization for me3 and got it and yet blablabla wine wine wine 


and those same crying little brats go around and call others names and act like there a victim or inoccent

and frankly i wouldnt mind slapping the crap out of a few of them personally


need me to continue?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 26 mars 2012 - 12:52 .

[weirdnerd]

i beleive the so far stated reason for the crappy endings is the leak forced them to change the end quickly and them came up with the load of crap we got given

[NM_Che56]

Anything additional is a difference; hence not the same...

If this isn't the actual ending on the disc then there is no change to be made since it hasn't been released.

Get it?

[BeefoTheBold]

Tazzmission wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

Or, alternatively, they incorporate new thoughts and new information and evaluate it as it comes along?

In what way is the push to get a halfway decent set of endings, to basically make Bioware deliver what they have promised for years, "hypocritcal".

Please do explain.

show me one article one statement by any bioware employee that said they promissed a choice in the endings

if you cant provide an actual statement on that then yes you are twisting everything around


this board is filled with hypocrites and heres why


2 years ago posters have demanded the squad be changed from 12 back to the me1 type wich was 6 and you got it and yet still moan cry and say bioware never listened to those fans

fans even asked for a better customization for me3 and got it and yet blablabla wine wine wine 


and those same crying little brats go around and call others names and act like there a victim or inoccent

and frankly i wouldnt mind slapping the crap out of a few of them personally


need me to continue?

Given that you didn't listen to the FIRST time such a list was presented, why should I think that you'll listen to the second time?

http://social.biowar.../index/10204263

Your reply is the very first one to this thread. It's a whole list of public promises, including ones by Bioware senior executives that we'd be given a choice of varied endings.

So, yeah, I think you need to continue. Because you have been just proven absolutely and conclusively WRONG about the very foundation of your case:

"show me one article one statement by any bioware employee that said they promissed a choice in the endings

if you cant provide an actual statement on that then yes you are twisting everything around"

[Cadence of the Planes]

weirdnerd wrote...

i beleive the so far stated reason for the crappy endings is the leak forced them to change the end quickly and them came up with the load of crap we got given

Disagree

[Gatt9]

Tazzmission wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

Or, alternatively, they incorporate new thoughts and new information and evaluate it as it comes along?

In what way is the push to get a halfway decent set of endings, to basically make Bioware deliver what they have promised for years, "hypocritcal".

Please do explain.

show me one article one statement by any bioware employee that said they promissed a choice in the endings

if you cant provide an actual statement on that then yes you are twisting everything around


this board is filled with hypocrites and heres why


2 years ago posters have demanded the squad be changed from 12 back to the me1 type wich was 6 and you got it and yet still moan cry and say bioware never listened to those fans

fans even asked for a better customization for me3 and got it and yet blablabla wine wine wine 


and those same crying little brats go around and call others names and act like there a victim or inoccent

and frankly i wouldnt mind slapping the crap out of a few of them personally


need me to continue?

I do,  this is going to get entertaining in about 10 minutes when someone posts a dozen or so quotes where Bioware specifically said choices were a factor in the ending,  even a few days before release. 

Plus,  Forbes is right.  The ending was planned,  EA chose to sell it as DLC after the fact thinking they'd have people talking about it for weeks,  and then drop the bomb getting a near-100% sell through.  I'm not sure how much more obvious it could get that EA tried to make everyone pay them yet another extra $10 so you can get the actual ending to the game.

Which,  as I said before,  will go down as mistake of such epic proportions that only the Atari ET fiasco compares to.

[Aesieru]

Tazzmission wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

Or, alternatively, they incorporate new thoughts and new information and evaluate it as it comes along?

In what way is the push to get a halfway decent set of endings, to basically make Bioware deliver what they have promised for years, "hypocritcal".

Please do explain.

show me one article one statement by any bioware employee that said they promissed a choice in the endings

if you cant provide an actual statement on that then yes you are twisting everything around


this board is filled with hypocrites and heres why


2 years ago posters have demanded the squad be changed from 12 back to the me1 type wich was 6 and you got it and yet still moan cry and say bioware never listened to those fans

fans even asked for a better customization for me3 and got it and yet blablabla wine wine wine 


and those same crying little brats go around and call others names and act like there a victim or inoccent

and frankly i wouldnt mind slapping the crap out of a few of them personally


need me to continue?

They're everywhere, but I'll go find you one and edit this post.

[Tazzmission]

Gatt9 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

Or, alternatively, they incorporate new thoughts and new information and evaluate it as it comes along?

In what way is the push to get a halfway decent set of endings, to basically make Bioware deliver what they have promised for years, "hypocritcal".

Please do explain.

show me one article one statement by any bioware employee that said they promissed a choice in the endings

if you cant provide an actual statement on that then yes you are twisting everything around


this board is filled with hypocrites and heres why


2 years ago posters have demanded the squad be changed from 12 back to the me1 type wich was 6 and you got it and yet still moan cry and say bioware never listened to those fans

fans even asked for a better customization for me3 and got it and yet blablabla wine wine wine 


and those same crying little brats go around and call others names and act like there a victim or inoccent

and frankly i wouldnt mind slapping the crap out of a few of them personally


need me to continue?

I do,  this is going to get entertaining in about 10 minutes when someone posts a dozen or so quotes where Bioware specifically said choices were a factor in the ending,  even a few days before release. 

Plus,  Forbes is right.  The ending was planned,  EA chose to sell it as DLC after the fact thinking they'd have people talking about it for weeks,  and then drop the bomb getting a near-100% sell through.  I'm not sure how much more obvious it could get that EA tried to make everyone pay them yet another extra $10 so you can get the actual ending to the game.

Which,  as I said before,  will go down as mistake of such epic proportions that only the Atari ET fiasco compares to.

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said