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[Atakuma]

Ashep123 wrote...

My god. Will anybody be satisfied.

Nope.

[Rockworm503]

cotheer wrote...

 Tazz here is one for you, it seems you need one >_>

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[Rockworm503]

aLucidMind wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ashep123 wrote...

My god. Will anybody be satisfied.

Nope.

There will always be someone that is satisfied. So, technically, yes.

No because they wont be satisfied till everyone else is apperantly.

[Ravenmyste]

Rockworm503 wrote...

cotheer wrote...

 Tazz here is one for you, it seems you need one >_>

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lol i love that part when she at the bar

[gammle]

well im not gona belive anything more untill the dlc is here or if it ever will come..now its just to many rummors and statements here and there...but i still think the ending we have now is crap..

Lets just wait and c what they say at EA/bip

[Dridengx]

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

[Tazzmission]

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

corpselover wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

again your jumping and thinking they said the exact 2 words i promise when they didnt

If I tell you a lie, but I don't say I promise, then does that mean it is not a lie?

thats funny because they never lied


you really have to stop thinking everything is because real talk that is not healthy at all

Are you a legal expert? If not, why are you acting like your personal (necessarily due to the preceding conditional) ignorant opinion is fact?

However, assuming for the sake of an argument, that Bioware employees making factually incorrect claims in interviews does not constitute "lying". In that case, Bioware would have to argue that they should not be held to those claims because they're not legally binding product descriptions as far as truth in advertising/Sale of Goods Act is concerned. Problem with that is that it's an admission of deception.

So either Bioware is engaging in false advertising, or (technically legal but) intentional deception - Bioware made claims in interviews prior to release, it become obvious that they would not be able to deliver the promised gaming experience, and then just released the game without so much as a word. Do you really not see a problem here?

are you one? because all i ever see is idiotic posts about omg bioware lied or omg bioware flasley advertised?

you dont need to be a legal expert to know what is and itsnt a real case

and wile we are at it since when has gaming become a contractual thing between companies and the fans huh?

last i checked you didnt have to sign a waver saying ok if i sign i get this this and this

[HenchxNarf]

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

Pretty much this.

They never PROMISED anything, therefore they never really lied.

[Aesieru]

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

... Someone doesn't know English apparently. And you just twisted your own words actually.

In any case, if I SAY I WILL DO SOMETHING, then it is logical that I will do it. You don't have to say "I PROMISE" to have what you're taken as a promise, else political debates would go a lot differently.

When you say ANYTHING it is taken at your word, so if I say I WILL GO TO THE STORE TOMORROW and something comes up and I don't make an addendum to that statement before the issue comes, I have lied. I might have have an arguably good excuse, but I still lied.

BioWare directly stated there would be CHOICE, the word you wanted to see. They also directly stated what WOULD be in the game. It is not.

Case closed, unless you want to argue English, then you can go to any college and argue the concept of conceptual agreement, and then read in the basic books every student has to read what an "agreement" means and is.

[Tazzmission]

slimgrin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Am I the only one seeing the overt religious themes in this game?

nope i had a feeling it would do this since me1 when shepard gives his speech on the normandy talking about saren

It's more than that. Look at the Geth/Quarian situation, look at how many are so willing to sacrifice themselves, a theme that is present in just about any religion. Look at Starboy, and the fact we are just supposed to take what he says at face value, yet another religious theme - don't question, just accept.

i personally dont have an issue with the ending i have issues with people who think they know what the hell there crying about

its like they cant really define what a promise is next to the word factor

there completley 2 different words

[Tazzmission]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

Pretty much this.

They never PROMISED anything, therefore they never really lied.

thank you!

its like we are yelling at the deaf and they dont listen

[Rockworm503]

I guess thats a good point.
If I tell you I wont bring a gun to a knife fight and then shoot you before we even start I guess its not lying so long as I never used the word promise.

LOL this is enlightening stuff keep it up.

[Aesieru]

Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

corpselover wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

again your jumping and thinking they said the exact 2 words i promise when they didnt

If I tell you a lie, but I don't say I promise, then does that mean it is not a lie?

thats funny because they never lied


you really have to stop thinking everything is because real talk that is not healthy at all

Are you a legal expert? If not, why are you acting like your personal (necessarily due to the preceding conditional) ignorant opinion is fact?

However, assuming for the sake of an argument, that Bioware employees making factually incorrect claims in interviews does not constitute "lying". In that case, Bioware would have to argue that they should not be held to those claims because they're not legally binding product descriptions as far as truth in advertising/Sale of Goods Act is concerned. Problem with that is that it's an admission of deception.

So either Bioware is engaging in false advertising, or (technically legal but) intentional deception - Bioware made claims in interviews prior to release, it become obvious that they would not be able to deliver the promised gaming experience, and then just released the game without so much as a word. Do you really not see a problem here?

are you one? because all i ever see is idiotic posts about omg bioware lied or omg bioware flasley advertised?

you dont need to be a legal expert to know what is and itsnt a real case

and wile we are at it since when has gaming become a contractual thing between companies and the fans huh?

last i checked you didnt have to sign a waver saying ok if i sign i get this this and this

I already proved you wrong, provided you your proof, AND gave you a free lecture that colleges will all teach you about conceptual agreement, and what the word promise means and how it isn't needed to make one.

You have nothing to stand on anymore, so get out.

[Aesieru]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I guess thats a good point.
If I tell you I wont bring a gun to a knife fight and then shoot you before we even start I guess its not lying so long as I never used the word promise.

LOL this is enlightening stuff keep it up.

http://dictionary.re....com/browse/lie

Modifié par Aesieru, 26 mars 2012 - 01:29 .

[Zkyire]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

Pretty much this.

They never PROMISED anything, therefore they never really lied.

[HenchxNarf]

Tazzmission wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

Pretty much this.

They never PROMISED anything, therefore they never really lied.

thank you!

its like we are yelling at the deaf and they dont listen

They could be beaten over the head with truth, but they'll still think it's a lie.

Kind of used to it by now, and it's no use in trying to get them to see otherwise.

[Aesieru]

Aesieru wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10520183

Here are some promises.

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http://social.biowar.../index/10409105 

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HERE IS YOUR DAMN PROOF

[Atakuma]

While it's true that they never actually promised anything, they were still spreading misinformation, which was wrong and makes them look bad.

[Ravenmyste]

Tazzmission wrote...


show me one article one statement by any bioware employee that said they promissed a choice in the endings

if you cant provide an actual statement on that then yes you are twisting everything around


this board is filled with hypocrites and heres why


2 years ago posters have demanded the squad be changed from 12 back to the me1 type wich was 6 and you got it and yet still moan cry and say bioware never listened to those fans

fans even asked for a better customization for me3 and got it and yet blablabla wine wine wine 


and those same crying little brats go around and call others names and act like there a victim or inoccent

and frankly i wouldnt mind slapping the crap out of a few of them personally


need me to continue?

Tazz you need to stop this i dont even have my  popcorn ready i  ate it all when  i was reading about the fake slc thing..

always doing these things pointing out  truths and me with out my damn popcorn!

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 26 mars 2012 - 01:32 .

[Aesieru]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

Pretty much this.

They never PROMISED anything, therefore they never really lied.

thank you!

its like we are yelling at the deaf and they dont listen

They could be beaten over the head with truth, but they'll still think it's a lie.

Kind of used to it by now, and it's no use in trying to get them to see otherwise.

http://dictionary.re....com/browse/lie 

Stop insulting others, as I've always said, I always research everything you say about anything, you've always been proven wrong by said research and you just keep doing it without any of your own.

[Tazzmission]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

factor dosent say promise buddy so again your twisting what was said

Exactly. I could say I'm taking you to disneyland tomorrow but if something comes up guess what we ain't going... but but you promised! did I? No. A promise is when I say.. I PROMISE you that there is multiple endings.. Your choices will matter in the end of Mass Effect 3, I can promise you that.. I don't recall Bioware ever using the word Promise.

Pretty much this.

They never PROMISED anything, therefore they never really lied.

thank you!

its like we are yelling at the deaf and they dont listen

They could be beaten over the head with truth, but they'll still think it's a lie.

Kind of used to it by now, and it's no use in trying to get them to see otherwise.

listen im a conspiracy theorist and the way the take back movment is acting is making people like me look golden

thats how bad it has gotten regarding this whole thing

[Aesieru]

Aesieru wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10520183

Here are some promises.

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http://social.biowar.../index/10409105 

---

HERE IS YOUR DAMN PROOF

http://dictionary.re....com/browse/lie 

HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF LIE

Numbers 30:2 ESV / 107 helpful votesIf a man vows a vow to the Lord, or swears an oath to bind himself by a pledge, he shall not break his word. He shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth.

HERE IS BIBLICAL STATEMENT NOT TO MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS

http://dictionary.re...wse/promise?s=t 

HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF A PROMISE AND, OR ASSURANCE OF SOMETHING

Modifié par Aesieru, 26 mars 2012 - 01:34 .

[Rockworm503]

Aesieru wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

I guess thats a good point.
If I tell you I wont bring a gun to a knife fight and then shoot you before we even start I guess its not lying so long as I never used the word promise.

LOL this is enlightening stuff keep it up.

http://dictionary.re....com/browse/lie

*GASP*
the dictionary says nothing about the word promise.
Its obviously wrong because Tazzmission doesn't approve