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Tazzmission wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

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Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is



Do you ever do anything other than insult people that don't like the ending?


He most certainly does! He avoids facts that proves him wrong and acts like they were never said, thats two more things right there! Posted Image


Notice how he vanished and ignored my proof until I shoved it everywhere I saw his name.


actually wise guy i did have to to some actual work 

you would know what thats like if you get out of your chair for a change

i do have other priorties other than argue with some child on the internet


Ooh nice use the "I have a life" card thats totally original and helps your argument so much /sarcasm.



funny how i never said the word life









Another good way to deflect things.
Use symantics.
I didn't say I have a life exactly so your argument is invalid.
Man you guys really love your symantics.

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aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i do have other priorties other than argue with some child on the internet


You do know that someone using "child" as an insult as if "adult" is like a badge of honor means you are not technically an adult yourself, right?


"yaaaaaaawn

And so you prove my point. F*** wisdom and logic, am I right? Posted Image



your actions prove my point wich is your a child who's crapping himself because whenever someone or a group of people dosent agree with him he throws a tantrum just like your doing


nice to see that the take back movement is starting to lose followers  and all of a sudden that person is deamed a traitor or is indoctrinated


sad to see the internet is real life for some people

Modifié par Tazzmission, 26 mars 2012 - 02:06 .


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Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i do have other priorties other than argue with some child on the internet


You do know that someone using "child" as an insult as if "adult" is like a badge of honor means you are not technically an adult yourself, right?


"yaaaaaaawn

And so you prove my point. F*** wisdom and logic, am I right? Posted Image



your actions prove my point wich is your a child who's crapping himself because whenever someone or a group of people dosent agree with him he throws a tantrum just like your doing


nice to see that the take back movement is starting to lose followers  and all of a sudden that person is deamed a traitor or is indoctrinated


sad to see the internet is real life for some people


Another great tactic is to hold the other person in a higher standard then yourself.
They said a bad word in their post that makes what I say ok.
*enter insult here*
Also bonus points seeing immature behaviour where there isn't any.
OOh I missed that last bit.
This is the internet why are so many people taking things so seriously?

Modifié par Rockworm503, 26 mars 2012 - 02:09 .


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Aesieru

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Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i do have other priorties other than argue with some child on the internet


You do know that someone using "child" as an insult as if "adult" is like a badge of honor means you are not technically an adult yourself, right?


"yaaaaaaawn

And so you prove my point. F*** wisdom and logic, am I right? Posted Image



your actions prove my point wich is your a child who's crapping himself because whenever someone or a group of people dosent agree with him he throws a tantrum just like your doing


nice to see that the take back movement is starting to lose followers  and all of a sudden that person is deamed a traitor or is indoctrinated


sad to see the internet is real life for some people


Aesieru wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10520183

Here are some promises.

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http://social.biowar.../index/10409105 

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HERE IS YOUR DAMN PROOF


http://dictionary.re....com/browse/lie 

HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF LIE

Numbers 30:2 ESV / 107 helpful votesIf a man vows a vow to the Lord, or swears an oath to bind himself by a pledge, he shall not break his word. He shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth.

HERE IS BIBLICAL STATEMENT NOT TO MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS


http://dictionary.re...wse/promise?s=t 

HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF A PROMISE AND, OR ASSURANCE OF SOMETHING


This needs to be on each page to prevent Tazz from saying anything ever again.

As for what the internet is... since I spend real time on it, and have to actually eat and nourish myself to still live while using the internet, and put my thoughts and words on it and am realistically typing... it is part of "real life", it isn't a fantasy world, actions have consequences.

Modifié par Aesieru, 26 mars 2012 - 02:09 .


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Child and real life insults....


run for your life \\(°o°)/

Modifié par cotheer, 26 mars 2012 - 02:10 .


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aLucidMind wrote...

Ending review; Jeremy Jahn hits the nail on the head.

www.youtube.com/watch


Bioware should watch that, points out nearly everything that needed it :).

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Sorileus wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Ending review; Jeremy Jahn hits the nail on the head.

www.youtube.com/watch


Bioware should watch that, points out nearly everything that needed it :).


BioWare is hiding behind the "artistic integrity" shield.

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You can still have the indoctrination
theory without changing the existing ending that is already in place.

Just sayin! :)


Sounds good to me and I am also having not finished the game and yet I am a believer of it. The signs are too damn potent to be ignored in my view.

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kbct wrote...

Sorileus wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Ending review; Jeremy Jahn hits the nail on the head.

www.youtube.com/watch


Bioware should watch that, points out nearly everything that needed it :).


BioWare is hiding behind the "artistic integrity" shield.


A wild Bioware appears.
Unsatisfied fan tries demands.
It wasn't very affective.
Wild Bioware uses artistic integrity shield.
It was very effective

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Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

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Tazzmission wrote...

i do have other priorties other than argue with some child on the internet


You do know that someone using "child" as an insult as if "adult" is like a badge of honor means you are not technically an adult yourself, right?


"yaaaaaaawn

And so you prove my point. F*** wisdom and logic, am I right? Posted Image


your actions prove my point wich is your a child who's crapping himself because whenever someone or a group of people dosent agree with him he throws a tantrum just like your doing

nice to see that the take back movement is starting to lose followers  and all of a sudden that person is deamed a traitor or is indoctrinated

sad to see the internet is real life for some people

I am far from a child. Who is throwing a tantrum, by the way? I'm the one being calm while you get belligerent towards me for literally no reason. Unless you count avoiding any facts or concrete arguments I've sent your way (like how your counter for me saying they're lying in my first post towards you in this thread was "Are you a legal expert?"). If anyone is throwing a tantrum, it is definitely you.

When did I ever say that you're a traitor or indoctrinated? You're making crap up if you're referring to me.

Yeah, you're definitely the pinnacle of maturity by insinuating I have no life outside the internet.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

kbct wrote...

Sorileus wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Ending review; Jeremy Jahn hits the nail on the head.

www.youtube.com/watch


Bioware should watch that, points out nearly everything that needed it :).


BioWare is hiding behind the "artistic integrity" shield.


A wild Bioware appears.
Unsatisfied fan tries demands.
It wasn't very affective.
Wild Bioware uses artistic integrity shield.
It was very effective

Unsatisfied fan sends out Wallet.
Unsatisfied fan withdraws Wallet.
Wild BioWare faints

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In order to pull something like this off, they needed to have an incredible ending for the game as released. A cliffhanger or some foreshadowing of more to come, sure, but it needed to be satisfying and conclusive on its own.

They failed. Even so, I think if this were actually their plan all along, they should have just said so upfront. Now they're stuck in the box they created for themselves.

weirdnerd wrote...

i beleive the so far stated reason for the crappy endings is the leak forced them to change the end quickly and them came up with the load of crap we got given

The ending is basically the same as it was in the leak.

Except there is less content, and it makes even less sense in the game than it did on paper.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

kbct wrote...

Sorileus wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Ending review; Jeremy Jahn hits the nail on the head.

www.youtube.com/watch


Bioware should watch that, points out nearly everything that needed it :).


BioWare is hiding behind the "artistic integrity" shield.


A wild Bioware appears.
Unsatisfied fan tries demands.
It wasn't very affective.
Wild Bioware uses artistic integrity shield.
It was very effective


Fan uses double-team.
Fan uses threaten to leave.
Fan uses "facts".
Wild Bioware delays.

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Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is

And yet 95% of your posts are complaining about the anti-ending crowd. How constructive. 

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Wait? People quotin scripture in here? Lol

Repent! The end is nigh...in April for $10

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Master Che wrote...

Wait? People quotin scripture in here? Lol

Repent! The end is nigh...in April for $10


YOU SIR ARE A BLIGHT!

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lol theres alot of *Hate* here reminds me of the Dark side of the force *wink wink*.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

Wait? People quotin scripture in here? Lol

Repent! The end is nigh...in April for $10


YOU SIR ARE A BLIGHT!


And you.

You Humans are all racist.

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i wish Someone would come to us and unite us for a common good , in which we could accomplish something against all the odds, and then obtain a choice that makes impact in our way.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

Wait? People quotin scripture in here? Lol

Repent! The end is nigh...in April for $10


YOU SIR ARE A BLIGHT!


AND YOU, HUMAN!


Honestly, it's great to see gaming issues covered by folks with some idea what the words "journalistic integrity" mean. I've known that most game-related publications were fundamentally broken since Nintendo Power gave Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team/ Blue Rescue Team a 9/10.

Also, I'm probably not looking hard enough, but I've yet to see a concrete, convincing argument that Bioware did not falsely advertise ME3 which doesn't quickly devolve into petty insults and deflection. >.<

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Forbes is looking at the ending from all angles. I like it.

I'm starting to really dig Forbes.

Modifié par kingtigernz, 26 mars 2012 - 02:48 .


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devSin wrote...

In order to pull something like this off, they needed to have an incredible ending for the game as released. A cliffhanger or some foreshadowing of more to come, sure, but it needed to be satisfying and conclusive on its own.

They failed. Even so, I think if this were actually their plan all along, they should have just said so upfront. Now they're stuck in the box they created for themselves.

weirdnerd wrote...

i beleive the so far stated reason for the crappy endings is the leak forced them to change the end quickly and them came up with the load of crap we got given

The ending is basically the same as it was in the leak.

Except there is less content, and it makes even less sense in the game than it did on paper.


They couldn't admit it up front.  Weeks after they made the decision to make the real ending DLC,  they started getting roasted for all of the Day 1 DLC,  including a key character.  Major sites started running pieces on it,  and then got hundreds of pages in threads about it.

Even if they admitted the plan,  they were going to get an epic firestorm,  probably worse.  Now they'll pretend it wasn't always the plan,  and a few people will believe them (Who knows why at this point).  In about 2 to 5 years,  after the dust has settled and EA's assets were auctioned off,  we'll be reading articles telling us the real story.

Personally,  I think it'll be two years or less.  EA's pretty much done at this point,  I doubt they're capable of regaining trust or loyalty at this point.  Pretty sure they're largely written off by most now.

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Tazzmission wrote...

and it did shape your outcome did it not? where has it stated that the ending and ending alone is that outcome?

if you saved wrex did it not shape your outcome?

if you let 3 people die in me2 did it not shape your outcome?

the ending was emitional and if you say it wasnt than you have no clue on what emotion is


where in any article has a developer stated oh if you keep so and so alive this ending will happen huh tough guy?


It didnt.

If you let some people die in ME2 you got 50 war assets less and that's it.
If Wrex dies it doesnt matter because the Krogan die in the Sol system anyways.
The ending was emotional indeed - the emotion being rage and disappointment.

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Tazzmission wrote...

maybe they finally realized the constant complaining about it is pointless and basicly laughable

now just watch 24 hours from now people will start shouting forbes isnt legit because thats how hypocritical the take back movement is


Hypocritical?  Wow, I didn't realise that having standards and expectations from a previously A+ game developer was hypocrisy!  Thanks for educating us!

Newsflash: If no-one complained about poor quality, poor quality is ALL we'd ever get from anything.  The only reason companies give quality at all is because they know that they rely on consumers to buy their product.  And if they ****** off their customers, they stop making money.

Simple as.  And honestly, expecting a quality product from Bioware SHOULDN'T BE SHOCKING!  Its what they've been known for for a while - and to suddenly stop caring?  Its a bad omen for times to come.  And if you roll over and accept it, you're basically asking for more of the same.