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Tekkez

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How come she barely talks and doesn't travel around the Normandy at all?

She barely even visits the Citadel.

Javik is a more interesting character on the Normandy, chats with Liara, Vega, moves around, etc. He's just a DLC character, who appears to be better implemented than a character some of us have kept since ME1.

I assume Kaidan is the same.

Is there any truth to a possible planned DLC to kill off Ashley/Kaidan in ME2, but was canceled? Thus the reason for a pretty poor implementation?

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I also wondered about this. I was starting to think she didn't really say anything other than "Hey Shepard," Until after the Thessia mission. Does she talk more if you romance her?

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Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?

Anyways, she probably doesn't talk to people because they're mostly all aliens. She don't take too kindly to them kinds round here.

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I'm not sure. It was rather disappointing just how long it took to get the VS back and I was tempted to just start ignoring sidquests because I was tired of waiting for Tali.

I even waited to recruit Javik on Eden Prime the first time because I figured Ashley would have lots to say about being back there. She said, maybe one thing about it, certainly not enough to make waiting worth it.

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Kaidan moves about a bit. Goes and speaks with Adams, plays poker with Vega, yeah I can only think of those 2 things. I don't like where they took Kaidan's character. He's not a tough guy don't make him say dumb tough guy stuff he sounds like a git.

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scrapmetals wrote...

Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?

Anyways, she probably doesn't talk to people because they're mostly all aliens. She don't take too kindly to them kinds round here.


But none of the dialogue files, so yes, technically the Javik you know, the Javik you interact with, is DLC. 

Also, Bioware dropped the ball with Ashley (and I assume Kaidan). What an unbelievably boring character. In fact, they really messed up with all the human squaddies. Whoever wrote them wasted the opportunity to evolve the characters through their despair over their homeworld. It seems that that's what happens with every other squaddie - Tali becomes more emboldened over the course of the trilogy, Garrus goes from a (fairly) rookie C-Sec officer to a ruthless vigilante and comes out the other side a trusted friend and leader, Liara actually grows up and all of the (sadly non-squaddie) ME2 characters get pretty decent resolutions, but Kaidan/Ashley/James just make me want to sacrifice Earth because, lets face it, I'm not missing out on much there. 

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Sad that Traynor has more dialog than them

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Pfor wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?

Anyways, she probably doesn't talk to people because they're mostly all aliens. She don't take too kindly to them kinds round here.


But none of the dialogue files, so yes, technically the Javik you know, the Javik you interact with, is DLC. 

Also, Bioware dropped the ball with Ashley (and I assume Kaidan). What an unbelievably boring character. 


Yeah. I know a lot of people didn't like Kaidan to begin with. But if you thought he was boring before well..lets just say talking to him sometimes would make drying paint seem exciting. It doesn't help that there are very few conversations to be had, mostly just DAII styles things that cut out.

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her dialogue fell into a plot hole.

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scrapmetals wrote...

Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?

Anyways, she probably doesn't talk to people because they're mostly all aliens. She don't take too kindly to them kinds round here.


Depends on what version of Ashely you have. Mine had a nice reuinion with Tali and got me to chat with Liara after her home got blown up.

I have no idea how'd she act if you kept her closed off in ME1 though.

She really could have used a bit more crew interaction though. Either with aliens or the humans depending on her character at that point.

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scrapmetals wrote...

Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?


Alex, I'd like to buy a clue for $200 please.

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Fawx9 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?

Anyways, she probably doesn't talk to people because they're mostly all aliens. She don't take too kindly to them kinds round here.


Depends on what version of Ashely you have. Mine had a nice reuinion with Tali and got me to chat with Liara after her home got blown up.

I have no idea how'd she act if you kept her closed off in ME1 though.

She really could have used a bit more crew interaction though. Either with aliens or the humans depending on her character at that point.


so anyone who didn't import a character all the way from ME1 probably got less dialogue? ugh.

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Yeah I was disappointed at the small amount of interaction and dialogue the VS had after coming back to the Normandy.

Kaidan and Ashley were literally the ones who have been with Shepard the longest, I was really hoping the VS would have a lot to talk about...but no.

I mean, the whole sequence with them getting creamed and you visiting them in the hospital was really nice, I thought, but then they sort of clammed up when they got better.

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Because, it was hard enough to put two different characters in the game due to choices, do you think they would actually have a lot of content?

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because I was tired of waiting for Tali. 


Haha. I know that feel.

In my first playthrough it felt like forever waiting for Tali.

Normandy isn't the same without her on board.

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Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Pfor wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?

Anyways, she probably doesn't talk to people because they're mostly all aliens. She don't take too kindly to them kinds round here.


But none of the dialogue files, so yes, technically the Javik you know, the Javik you interact with, is DLC. 

Also, Bioware dropped the ball with Ashley (and I assume Kaidan). What an unbelievably boring character. 


Yeah. I know a lot of people didn't like Kaidan to begin with. But if you thought he was boring before well..lets just say talking to him sometimes would make drying paint seem exciting. It doesn't help that there are very few conversations to be had, mostly just DAII styles things that cut out.


I know people talked down on Jacob in ME2 for basically being Black Kaidan but at least he has a relatively interesting 'good father' complex. Kaidan somehow makes 'gifted child who kills cruel teacher' feel more like a tax return than a backstory. 

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My first play through was from a ME1 / ME2 import where I romanced Ashley; I was disappointed in most of the dialogue options to enhance and re-kindle the romance. This second playthrough, I have Liara and so far I am impressed by the continuing relationship storyline with her. The romance features of Ashley are there and there are some tender moments, but I was a little let down by it.

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PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Because, it was hard enough to put two different characters in the game due to choices, do you think they would actually have a lot of content?


Should be on par with the others at least.

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Kaidan has a lot of lines, actually. They're not particular great, though.

I was actually sad that Tali got next to zero dialogue aboard the Normandy. :/ At least Garrus was fleshed out.

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PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Because, it was hard enough to put two different characters in the game due to choices, do you think they would actually have a lot of content?


Well then they should have killed them off if they didn't want to deal with how hard it was going to be.

There is no excuses for half assing, especialy since there is so much of that in this game.

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Pfor wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Pfor wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Technically Javik isn't DLC. You can find files of him on the disc, I think? They just made him DLC so you pay more.

Charming, huh?

Anyways, she probably doesn't talk to people because they're mostly all aliens. She don't take too kindly to them kinds round here.


But none of the dialogue files, so yes, technically the Javik you know, the Javik you interact with, is DLC. 

Also, Bioware dropped the ball with Ashley (and I assume Kaidan). What an unbelievably boring character. 


Yeah. I know a lot of people didn't like Kaidan to begin with. But if you thought he was boring before well..lets just say talking to him sometimes would make drying paint seem exciting. It doesn't help that there are very few conversations to be had, mostly just DAII styles things that cut out.


I know people talked down on Jacob in ME2 for basically being Black Kaidan but at least he has a relatively interesting 'good father' complex. Kaidan somehow makes 'gifted child who kills cruel teacher' feel more like a tax return than a backstory. 


Hmmm I liked Kaidan in ME 1. Well If liked him in this game too, about one of the only things I did like. I just wished I'd been given more of a chance to like him a bit more. It feels a bit like most of the ME1 team got left hung out to dry. I think I spoke to Tali once. They could have done more with what Kaidan was going through but they didn't..oh well. 

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PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Because, it was hard enough to put two different characters in the game due to choices, do you think they would actually have a lot of content?


yes. I don't see how it's hard to put two different characters in a game. How is it any different from any game with optional companions?

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Verethele wrote...
At least Garrus was fleshed out.


Yeh, Garrus was great. Often had something to chat about, they did a great job there. :)

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sistersafetypin wrote...

I also wondered about this. I was starting to think she didn't really say anything other than "Hey Shepard," Until after the Thessia mission. Does she talk more if you romance her?


Nope. That's the sad part, she was my LI through the whole series and I got jack nothing on the Normandy. She was really underused.

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I was really hoping for some Ashley interaction after I got her back from the hospital. Epsecially about the fact that I never broke up with Miranda and was still trying to romance her (I know my Shep likes to create drama, its his flaw) but nope... nothing