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[learie]

I have seen one post lamenting the inclusion of a sexy body for EDI. I'm making it two.

There are MRAs who love the idea of replacing women with robots: I was somewhat shocked to find Bioware thinks it's a cool idea too. I am unable to talk to Joker in ME3 - something  causing me a severe degree of hardship- because I am apparently supposed to encourage him to love an artificial intelligence with metal breasts and immoveable hair. I am still suffering from having to play through ME2 without talking to Kaidan: now you take Joker from me?   

The idea of giving EDI a body is a good fun one. But metal hair? Metal mammary glands? Seriously? She's a dress-maker's dummy or shop window mannequin and she gets Joker for a LI.  WTF?   

[Iron Spetsnaz]

Just one question though.


Can you f*** it?

[AxisEvolve]

Sigh... there's a hundred threads on this. Trust me it's more than two people who raise this point. It's become cool to dis EDI on here since her artbook images were leaked months ago. 

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 26 mars 2012 - 01:05 .

[Crazyjeffy]

She says it's to be able to help shep but it's really because she wants joker's love.

[garrus and ashley squad]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

Just one question though.


Can you f*** it?

this

[learie]

Good job on displaying your lack of respect for women posters 2 and 5. Hang out on Reddit, much? As to EDI, I'm betting it would be really quite painful without a metal exoskeleton for your penis. By all means, devote all your free time in RL to experimenting.

AxisEvolve: sorry about making a redundant thread. The only discussion about EDI's body I have seen was one post expressing views I endorsed, and another thread that was probably started by poster no.2 here celebrating that Bioware gave EDI a metal vagina.

CrazyJeffy: In giving EDI a Sexy Robot body, Bioware has hit the right mark with a number of players and posters. That's very very depressing, considering the lack of class such posters display. The story of Joker having a romance with an AI could have been clever and challenging: instead, it's a sexyrobothurhur. Bioware, I am disappoint.

[Jaysh]

Joker and EDI have a lot of chemistry though.

[SparkyRich]

Actually, regardless of form she IS now able to actually help Joker get around. And having an attractive form doesn't hurt. EDI also mentions that the outer covering can be controlled - armor or soft as needed, including the hair (though if it has recently come in contact with water she "generally can't do a thing with it," LOL). As an infiltration unit, this may or may not go as far as being able to have sex without the iron condom mentioned earlier in the thread.

Regardless, to me it was her way of trying to impress Joker at first but it really is useful - the guy is handicapped after all and having someone you love available to help is great - not to mention she probably feels happier being able to help.

Necessary? No. Awesome? No. Acceptable? To me, yeah. I can live with it. I love her for her personality, anyway - her humor heuristic has developed quite the expert system under Joker's guidance....

[learie]

Could EDI and Joker have chemistry if EDI didn't have a conventionally hetero-sexually attractive form?

[SandorClegamer]

They already did have that old couple chemistry even when she was just software. Besides, sexual love would be all but impossible with Joker having brittle bone disease and EDI (likely) weighing half a ton. Their love is probably the "purest" form of love in that it doesn't require any kind of sexual pretense. The fact that Joker doesn't seem to care about this is telltale.

[sammcl]

It did feel a little odd encouraging Joker to pursue EDI considering she's an AI. Then I thought there's probably plenty of people around in love who don't have sex, it's called marriage *badoom cha!*

Yay for overused sitcom jokes

To answer your latest question, Joker and EDI definitely already had chemistry, they were practically already a couple. I guess the writers felt they needed to give her a body if they wanted to push the relationship further. And women in games are usually the perceived ideal, so EDI gets sexy new digs.

I don't think they needed to give EDI a body at all, she would have been fine remaining in the Normandy. But she was thoroughly entertaining and I'm glad they did give her a body, her comments on missions were fun

[Reikilea]

Edi stopped existing for me the moment she got that body. I even stopped talking to her afterwards, she was anoying the hell out of me with her - Shepard I have a question. We already know that syntetics can be good - you gave us Legion and she was great as ship Ai. So dont force that issue by giving Edi sexi body... We alredy figured out that Edi cared about Normandy crew..

To think that Bioware would use one of the most overused cliches in scifi universe is beyond me. And I trusted them..And to even equip he with big boobs and heels. Why the hell she need heels for? Edi characterisation and appearance in ME3 is a fail in writing\\design department for me.

And to say they were insprired by Fritz Lang Maria..Poor Maria, if she knew...

I miss good old HK-47 times...

[Sporothrix]

Reikilea wrote...

To think that Bioware would use one of the most overused cliches in scifi universe is beyond me.

You mean, aside of other overused sexual themed cliche in scifi universe they used?

Reikilea wrote...

And to even equip he with big boobs and heels. Why the hell she need heels for? Edi characterisation and appearance in ME3 is a fail in writingdesign department for me.

Ashley too suddenly has big breasts (just look at her in hospital - she apaprently had operation) and high heels, and started to wear strong makeup when going into battles.

Let's be honest, it's juvenile exploitative scifi game which is all about shooting things and sleeping with alien/robot/human but inpractically sexed up women.  It shows that FemShep was artificially attached to it, that whole script was written with maleShep in mind, so she's objectified as most other female characters.
So it's really funny when devs epect from players that they would consider it more than it is and treat the story "seriously".

[Knightly_BW]

My two cents.

I am creeped out by EDI's body. Not because how it looks but its self decision to download itself to a mobile platform. Too much geth and Miranda's "Don't get me started on unshackling damned AI" words ringing in my head.

I would destroy EDI at that moment if there was an option. If you take its more active role in ME3 into account in future people will be fighting with EDIs.

On top of everything it keeps asking stupid questions to Shepard. There is a doctor in Normandy for God's sake go bother Chakwas.

Edit: Fixed for more accurate addresing. It instead of she.

Modifié par Asperius, 27 mars 2012 - 03:06 .

[syllogi]

learie wrote...

Could EDI and Joker have chemistry if EDI didn't have a conventionally hetero-sexually attractive form?

I also have wondered whether people would have been so supportive of Joker/EDI even before ME3, if EDI had been voiced by a man.

Anyhow, I support this thread and your points, OP.  Good luck with trying to debate with the posters on this forum who will desperately and passionately defend their right to have metal vaginas as squadmates in video games.

[Iron Spetsnaz]

syllogi wrote...

learie wrote...

Could EDI and Joker have chemistry if EDI didn't have a conventionally hetero-sexually attractive form?

I also have wondered whether people would have been so supportive of Joker/EDI even before ME3, if EDI had been voiced by a man.

Anyhow, I support this thread and your points, OP.  Good luck with trying to debate with the posters on this forum who will desperately and passionately defend their right to have metal vaginas as squadmates in video games.

Wouldn't work because EDI's voice is Female, and logically, you would expect a robot with a Female voice to have Female "Features"

[syllogi]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

syllogi wrote...

I also have wondered whether people would have been so supportive of Joker/EDI even before ME3, if EDI had been voiced by a man.

Wouldn't work because EDI's voice is Female, and logically, you would expect a robot with a Female voice to have Female "Features"

Yeah, shockingly, you are missing my point.  EDI doesn't have to have a female voice.  EDI is computer software.  IF EDI had been given a male voice, would the gamers who supported the idea even before ME3 have wanted Joker and EDI to have a relationship?

Modifié par syllogi, 27 mars 2012 - 03:10 .

[Reikilea]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

syllogi wrote...

learie wrote...

Could EDI and Joker have chemistry if EDI didn't have a conventionally hetero-sexually attractive form?

I also have wondered whether people would have been so supportive of Joker/EDI even before ME3, if EDI had been voiced by a man.

Anyhow, I support this thread and your points, OP.  Good luck with trying to debate with the posters on this forum who will desperately and passionately defend their right to have metal vaginas as squadmates in video games.

Wouldn't work because EDI's voice is Female, and logically, you would expect a robot with a Female voice to have Female "Features"

Imagine what if - in ME2 Edi ended up with male voice. That what they were trying to say. Imagine what would happen if Edi/Eduardo or whoever had male voice and got a body with male features. And would flirt or make jokes with with Joker..

I am having so much fun trying to visualise it.

Or maybe it would create rather original bromance between Pilot and ship.

At least this way they would stay away from biggest scifi cliche.

This is where Legion works and Edi fails. But lets just face whole ME universe is a big manservice.

[MACharlie1]

The EVA body was indeed meant to be in part a "sex toy" - the leak contains some dialog that didn't make it into the final game apparently where EDI looks through EVAs memory banks to see if the Illusive Man engaged in any sexual activity with the body...he did not. As an infiltration unit, I would imagine sexual activity would be a necessary part of infiltration.

If EDI was masculine (meaning, voice by a man who can make an AI sound sexy as Tricia Helfer does) and the body was modeled that after a man...it wouldn't fit the story itself. The Mars facility was without a doubt (just look at the bodies) dominated by men. Naturally one would think to use a female to get in close. As much as I may argue that everyone is bisexual to some degree, most are more receptive to a woman's voice/body/etc. That and the major butt hurt that would follow Joker falling for a masculine AI...from the fans....

[CrutchCricket]

Hatters gonna hat.

[BatmanPWNS]

******.

That is all.

[Siansonea]

EDI is the ultimate RealDoll. It's no surprise that many men find the idea of sexually receptive gynoids appealing. Lots of men just want a sex receptacle, and something they have complete control over. EDI is the pinnacle of gynoid fantasy, I mean, she's a sexbot, and all she wants to do is serve her man. I'm surprised she isn't wearing an apron.

[syllogi]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Hatters gonna hat.

I would fully support a milliner for a squadmate in future games.

[CrutchCricket]

syllogi wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Hatters gonna hat.

I would fully support a milliner for a squadmate in future games.

ME3 needs more hats, particularly in multiplayer. This is a fact.

[SandorClegamer]

EDI's body is symbolic of the blurry line between AI and organics. Are synthetics actually more like organics than we thought, and vice versa. When you look at EDI you see evidence of an AI acting very human, and you examine yourself (and other organics) and realize that we can act in ways that resemble synthetic behavior (such as reacting to a sexy female body so predictably, as if we were programmed to instinctually) as well. And yea it might be a forced issue to those who have a heavy sci-fi background but I'm sure BW wanted to introduce the concept to the less familiar too.