tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Lord Aesir wrote...
Now you're blatantly lying. That is precisely what we were told happened.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
That was not the evidence you asked for. You asked for evidence of an instant when synthetics would turn on their creators. Which is also what the Catalyst said would happen. I provided that evidence.
There isn't even evidence of that.
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 26 mars 2012 - 05:31 .
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
Anaki86 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
So the Catalyst's logic is faulty because Shepard doesn't question it?
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
Okay, true. well the fourth option of doing nothing wasn't going to work so what else is there...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
Okay, true. well the fourth option of doing nothing wasn't going to work so what else is there...
Only because Bioware decided to strip Shepard of all intelligence at that moment.
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
Okay, true. well the fourth option of doing nothing wasn't going to work so what else is there...
Only because Bioware decided to strip Shepard of all intelligence at that moment.
the catalyst already had prepared a few contingency plans, so nothing to do but pick the most agreeable one. In any case, it would appear that the catalyst had decided that there would be no more reaping cycles at least in that galaxy. So it's kind of a victory if you ask me.
The zha'til did rebel.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
Now you're blatantly lying. That is precisely what we were told happened.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
That was not the evidence you asked for. You asked for evidence of an instant when synthetics would turn on their creators. Which is also what the Catalyst said would happen. I provided that evidence.
There isn't even evidence of that.
Tell me again, because I can't find it.
The geth didn't rebel, nor did the zha'til. What other synthetic species do we know of?
o Ventus wrote...
Anaki86 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
So the Catalyst's logic is faulty because Shepard doesn't question it?
Look at the question I answered, then look back at my answer.
Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 26 mars 2012 - 05:38 .
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
Okay, true. well the fourth option of doing nothing wasn't going to work so what else is there...
Only because Bioware decided to strip Shepard of all intelligence at that moment.
the catalyst already had prepared a few contingency plans, so nothing to do but pick the most agreeable one. In any case, it would appear that the catalyst had decided that there would be no more reaping cycles at least in that galaxy. So it's kind of a victory if you ask me.
Then Shepard's ghost comes to the realization that he's jsut damned trillions of people by destroying the relays.
Lord Aesir wrote...
The zha'til did rebel.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
Now you're blatantly lying. That is precisely what we were told happened.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
That was not the evidence you asked for. You asked for evidence of an instant when synthetics would turn on their creators. Which is also what the Catalyst said would happen. I provided that evidence.
There isn't even evidence of that.
Tell me again, because I can't find it.
The geth didn't rebel, nor did the zha'til. What other synthetic species do we know of?
I think Ventus is referring to the equally erroneus idea that every systm in the galaxy with a relay was destroyed.Anaki86 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Okay, so what if the catalyst is operating on faulty logic? The catalyst is wrong about something but why is that a flaw in story telling? The kid even admitted in the end that he was wrong to invade.
Because Shepard just up and believes every single word he says, despite being witness to the exact opposite of what the Catalyst says.
Okay, true. well the fourth option of doing nothing wasn't going to work so what else is there...
Only because Bioware decided to strip Shepard of all intelligence at that moment.
the catalyst already had prepared a few contingency plans, so nothing to do but pick the most agreeable one. In any case, it would appear that the catalyst had decided that there would be no more reaping cycles at least in that galaxy. So it's kind of a victory if you ask me.
Then Shepard's ghost comes to the realization that he's jsut damned trillions of people by destroying the relays.
Not necessarily. FTL drives still work and they would be able to traverse solar systems. It would just take years instead of minutes.
Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 26 mars 2012 - 05:42 .
Anaki86 wrote...
Not necessarily. FTL drives still work and they would be able to traverse solar systems. It would just take years instead of minutes.
Modifié par o Ventus, 26 mars 2012 - 05:41 .
The zha'til were AI designed by the zha to run the cybernetics they required to survive, They hijacked their masters and turned their descendants into a slave species. The zha and the zha'til were seperate entities. There's your evidence.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
The zha'til did rebel.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
Now you're blatantly lying. That is precisely what we were told happened.o Ventus wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
That was not the evidence you asked for. You asked for evidence of an instant when synthetics would turn on their creators. Which is also what the Catalyst said would happen. I provided that evidence.
There isn't even evidence of that.
Tell me again, because I can't find it.
The geth didn't rebel, nor did the zha'til. What other synthetic species do we know of?
No, they didn't, since the zha technically evolved into the zha'til by implanting themsleves with cybernetics. They didn't rebel against anyone, but they waged a war with the Protheans (which the Protheans won).
I'm still waiting for an all-powerful AI god-being to come in and exterminate organic life.
Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 26 mars 2012 - 05:48 .
o Ventus wrote...
Anaki86 wrote...
Not necessarily. FTL drives still work and they would be able to traverse solar systems. It would just take years instead of minutes.
I'm talking about the people that live in the neighboring star systems near the relays.
Arrival made it perfectly clear what happens.
inb4 different kind of explosion.
1. Show me proof.
2. It's still a massive eezo engine exploding. It will be freaking massive, if not as freaking massive as it was in Arrival.
Modifié par Anaki86, 26 mars 2012 - 05:50 .
I won't bother. I have to stop fooling myself that it's possible to reason with people intent on misinterpretting the endings.o Ventus wrote...
Anaki86 wrote...
Not necessarily. FTL drives still work and they would be able to traverse solar systems. It would just take years instead of minutes.
I'm talking about the people that live in the neighboring star systems near the relays.
Arrival made it perfectly clear what happens.
inb4 different kind of explosion.
1. Show me proof.
2. It's still a massive eezo engine exploding. It will be freaking massive, if not as freaking massive as it was in Arrival.
Modifié par Lord Aesir, 26 mars 2012 - 05:48 .
FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...
synthesis not its victory, remember Saren in ME1, or remember Harbinger in ME2,
the real way its the distruction of the Reaper.
Lord Aesir wrote...
I won't bother. I have to stop fooling myself that it's possible to reason with people intent on misinterpretting the endings.o Ventus wrote...
Anaki86 wrote...
Not necessarily. FTL drives still work and they would be able to traverse solar systems. It would just take years instead of minutes.
I'm talking about the people that live in the neighboring star systems near the relays.
Arrival made it perfectly clear what happens.
inb4 different kind of explosion.
1. Show me proof.
2. It's still a massive eezo engine exploding. It will be freaking massive, if not as freaking massive as it was in Arrival.
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