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[joejoe099]

That was obviously him at the end. The lights that shine from it are the same as the collectors when they were controlled, and no other reaper (seen anyways) glows like that.

[OMGOSHNESS]

Joker1117 wrote...

He's missing his middle 5th leg and has glowing eyes. Not to mention he fires much faster than every other reaper(which makes sense considering he's the oldest). It's WAY too much of a coincidence for him NOT to be Harby.

^qft

It's also stated a few times that he's one of the Reapers that breaks off from the main force to defend the conduit. Everything suggests it is Harby.

Modifié par OMGOSHNESS, 26 mars 2012 - 01:49 .

[BentOrgy]

Another nail in ME3's coffin. I've never seen a sequel fail on so many levels.

[HBC Dresden]

Yeah, I agree with you guys, definitely Harbinger shooting lasers at the end. I do not know why people deny this when ever other Reaper in the game is a Destroyer or Sovereign-class.

[Vulcan101]

The whole "assuming control" thing was chilling. Harby was for another reason good because ( well I did) focus your ( boo hiss) "this **** is going down routine" unlike in me3 there is no villain.

The conversation with the reaper on rannoch is simply the same dialogue from sovereign ( more or less) he even mentions that Harby actually speaks about Shepard to the other reapers. I can imagine the conversation:

Harby: followers of Narazara, we have failed, you have failed. Sovereign failed, Saren failed, the collectors failed, we failed again on Artoht. We failed because of Shepard. But Shepard will be no more. We will darken their sky, obliterate their cites, we will crush their minds, in the end they will struggle, but their struggle will mean nothing. Shepard has changed nothing. The cycle is eternal, it cannot be stopped.The forces of the universe bend to us.
Our power is unmatched.Take what is useful, destroy the rest. Progress cannot be halted. Nothing stands against us.This is not the conclusion. We are assuming control. Struggle if you wish in the end your mind will be ours. In the end, like all others Shepard will serve us."

[TAK The Voyager]

I was disappointed by the lack of Harby in this game. He's built up so much in ME2 and the Arrival DLC, then nothing.

Then, he owns everyone at the ending and leaves.

[Evenjelith]

Vulcan101 wrote...

The conversation with the reaper on rannoch is simply the same dialogue from sovereign ( more or less) he even mentions that Harby actually speaks about Shepard to the other reapers. I can imagine the conversation:

The way the Destroyer references Harbinger gave me the impression that he was the boss, so I was expecting a big showdown on Earth. Instead we get a cameo...
Arrival alone had more Harbinger content. 

[SaY4cT]

Harbinger was cut out because all FemSheps filed a sexual harassment form against him. So he escaped from DS, upgraded his laser beam and made it just in time for the final confrontation.

[CARL_DF90]

Hey Bioware! Whatever you do in the future with ME3 DLC, the one thing that you MUST do is bring Harbinger back.

[chengda85]

Harbinger was tired of being called Harbringer.

[TheDragonOfWhi]

Vulcan101 wrote...

The whole "assuming control" thing was chilling. Harby was for another reason good because ( well I did) focus your ( boo hiss) "this **** is going down routine" unlike in me3 there is no villain.

The conversation with the reaper on rannoch is simply the same dialogue from sovereign ( more or less) he even mentions that Harby actually speaks about Shepard to the other reapers. I can imagine the conversation:

Harby: followers of Narazara, we have failed, you have failed. Sovereign failed, Saren failed, the collectors failed, we failed again on Artoht. We failed because of Shepard. But Shepard will be no more. We will darken their sky, obliterate their cites, we will crush their minds, in the end they will struggle, but their struggle will mean nothing. Shepard has changed nothing. The cycle is eternal, it cannot be stopped.The forces of the universe bend to us.
Our power is unmatched.Take what is useful, destroy the rest. Progress cannot be halted. Nothing stands against us.This is not the conclusion. We are assuming control. Struggle if you wish in the end your mind will be ours. In the end, like all others Shepard will serve us."

I read that, and automatically go to:

Other Reaper: "Ah yes Shepard" *reaper air quotes*
"A supposed human that has the will to defies us and unite a galaxy. We have dismissed this clame"

Modifié par TheDragonOfWhi, 26 mars 2012 - 09:34 .

[Federally]

I agree OP, Harby was positioned as the primary antagonist in ME2 and this was reinforced with Arrival. Then he was just dropped and replaced with no one. This is another example of very bad writing and shows that more then just the ending has problems.

[shin-zan]

I would have loved a proper boss fight and a final conversation with Harby...

[mybudgee]

Harby has been given the old 'Joan Rivers' treatment...

[Khayness]

TAK The Voyager wrote...

I was disappointed by the lack of Harby in this game. He's built up so much in ME2 and the Arrival DLC, then nothing.

Then, he owns everyone at the ending and leaves.

Like a boss.

You can't comprehend awesomeness of that magnitude.

[Federally]

I think most of us wanted a proper boss fight with Harby. However that would be "too video gamey" so they decided against it.

[Alexraptor1]

Boss fight?
I just wanted another awesome conversation with him, but he does not have ONE LINE in the entire game!!! >

[Darth Wolfenbarg]

I know his dialogue looped a lot, but I was under the impression that people made fun of him for the same reason people make fun of anything in popular culture: they liked him. I certainly did, and was extremely disappointed when he did not speak a single time. Arrival really solidified his role, but instead the primary antagonist we battle at every turn of this journey isn't Harbinger, it's Illusive Man. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Modifié par Darth Wolfenbarg, 26 mars 2012 - 09:09 .

[Federally]

You wouldn't of liked the fight with the Reaper on Rannoch to have happened with Harby? Use the targeting laser to call down orbital strikes (the strength of which depends on collected fleets), then fight off waves of Reaper ground forces (with assistance from collected armies) and employing other war assets (fighters, volus bombers etc) to keep Harby busy while you target him for successive bombardments. Scale the difficulty of the fight and potential losses taken, e.g. dead squad members, to your collected Ems. Then maybe once he is sufficiently beaten down you and a squad charge into a hole in his side, fight off hordes of husks and lay the final death blow to him from the inside.

If done well it could have been truly Epic.

[BiO]

"This is the best point to get into the series, if you've never played the previous games"

[StabGuy]

Harbinger Helper

[LGTX]

It was definitely Harbinger at the end, it had the same shape of the hologram which speaks to you at the end of Arrival if you played it post-SM, as opposed to other Sovereign-class Reapers which are all identical in form. Same goes for the glowy optics.

[shin-zan]

Federally wrote...

I think most of us wanted a proper boss fight with Harby. However that would be "too video gamey" so they decided against it.

Serriously? Did they miss the fact that they are making a video game? <_<

[AkiKishi]

arial wrote...

seriously Harbinger isn't a name... its more of a title

*goes to get definition from dictionary*


1.
a person who goes ahead and makes known the approach of another; herald.
2.
anything that foreshadows a future event; omen; sign: Frost is a harbinger of winter.
3.
a person sent in advance of troops, a royal train, etc., to provide or secure lodgings and other accommodations.
4.
to act as harbinger to; herald the coming of.

They should have switched the names around from ME1/2 of course they had no clue what they were writing from one moment to the next so it's just coincidence.

[Federally]

Yeah it would have worked to swap sovereign and Harby's names around but harbinger still works as is. He is the herald of our destruction, the harbinger of our genetic destiny.

Regardless of his name there is no excuse to not have a final confrontation in ME3 with the character presented as the main antagonist in ME2.