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#51
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Madcat 124 wrote...

 It seems to have died down. Did bioware say they would talk about it at PAX? 

What happened?


We recieved conformation from the co-founder of BioWare that a ending is being worked on that will provide fans with more clarity and closure. We will know more details in April.

We have also not gone anywhere, we are all still Holding The Line.

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We're simply waiting for april. Prepare for rage or praise.

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people waiting for pax. if bioware fails the great sh°t storm of our time will start onces again.

Modifié par Lextra, 26 mars 2012 - 02:27 .


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I just came to realize that my opinion doesn't matter now that I have already paid for the game. If making me happy was the goal all along, then quality assurance at BioWare should have stopped that steaming pile from being sent out that door. That ending can only be seen as a giant middle finger to game lore and to the player.

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Just waiting for April. If it's good then hooray but if it's just some explanation to the endings then all hell breaks loose. I think Bioware wanted to be all "Oh our ending provided people things to think about and wasn't all that happy so we're cool now" but wth Bioware? Of course, I wouldn't want a fairytail ending but that would be so much better than what I watched. It's like watching Evangelion's original ending ugh

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Don't take the quietness as a sign that people have given up on demanding something new . There is currently a lack of channel for things to take up energy . I would suggest that the best thing you can do is warn other individuals who may buy the game or other bioware products of your experience . If you think this is some kind of corporate or financial blackmail , it's not . We're obviously not saying "don't buy because they won't give me what i want" you should outline why you personally didn't like it and let your friends decide after you recommend not to spend money on bioware . The best test to see if what you're going to say is appropriate or crossing the line is: "If I had not yet bought ME3 or other bioware products and my friend knew about the ending and I didn't , what would I want him to tell me ?" do unto others what you would like them to do unto you .

I would also recommend visiting the various sites , send emails every so often , and keep supporting pro-end-change initiatives on this forum and disseminate information . Let them know we are active by coming up with your OWN ideas for community events .

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Aduro wrote...

They said they will have an announcement in April, they hinted that they will give something that gives more clarification/closure. It will likely fall very short of anything satisfactory. Then, either people will be too tired and dissatisfied to continue or grab some popcorn for the lynching >_<


There's going to be popcorn? Count me in.

In all seriousness, I think I'm just trying to see what happens in April. It's not impossible for BioWare to actually make good on their promises with the DLC. I've got my fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.

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It's emotionally exhausting to get so worked up over something as trivial as video game ending. I'm an emotional person and I was very much invested in the story and characters. I have other real life problems to worry about, and it was nice to forget about them for awhile.

I'm just waiting to see what BioWare is going to do about the fan backlash. At this point, I'll take what they give in an ending DLC. Anything, be it an explanation or a complete rewrite would be better than that.

I wonder if they'll be able to get all of the voice actors for the squadmates to give real closure, or just keep that Normandy crash thing so Shepard never sees them again.

Still, holding the line.

Modifié par GlassElephant, 26 mars 2012 - 04:01 .


#59
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Still here.

Still holding the line.

:)

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People, the movement is still very much alive and fighting, yet there will be no real statement from Bioware before April so no need to get all jumpy and crazy. Be patient, be cool and be ready; hold the line.

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Holding the line!

Even more after THIS:


http://www.reddit.co...new_ending_dlc/
 
http://www.reddit.co...possible_leaked

Modifié par Herr Igor, 26 mars 2012 - 04:07 .


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We're here! We're just trying to be peaceful and respectful until we hear the announcement in April. The Facebook page is loud and proud as ever.

(And I don't mean we're going to kick back into an uproar after April automatically, but... while I'm ever optimistic that the announcement made will do Bioware proud,I am staring at the glass and thinking it's starting to look ever more empty than full.)

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basically they've said they are going to do "something" and they are going to talk more about it in April. So at this point we're biding our time until then. The fight isn't over yet but I think things have died down a bit. Just like I said it would. Once Bioware spoke up and said "ya we're going to do something about this" things kind of calmed down a lot. Not entirely but a lot.

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I suspect the hope of some positive news at pax will have a lot of people taking a wait and see approach. After all a lot of people wanted to see BioWare add to the endings in some way and they are promising to do that. It's a case of seeing what they have up their sleeve. Nothing much can be added without hearing what they have in store and I'm sure fans will certainly discuss it then.

Wither it's greeted optimistically or lights the BSN up with the fury of a thousand suns remains to be seen.

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Bioware said they would address the issue and provide "clarity and closure".

You know, something that you would expect for an ending, not an explanation of an ending.

Which is why I'm still worried. There is no clarifying that utter mess. It is not salvageable.

PAX should be quite amusing, regardless.

Modifié par nevar00, 26 mars 2012 - 04:11 .


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Never giving up

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nevar00 wrote...

Bioware said they would address the issue and provide "clarity and closure".

You know, something that you would expect for an ending, not an explanation of an ending.

Which is why I'm still worried. There is no clarifying that utter mess. It is not salvageable.

PAX should be quite amusing, regardless.


And if any of this is true we're forever doomed:

http://www.reddit.co...new_ending_dlc/

http://www.reddit.co...ossible_leaked/

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Dodgeman wrote...

I can't see the point why they would release dlc to "clarify" the ending. it's like walking in on your wife doing some other guy, then she walks up to you and says; it's not what it looks like, let me explain.


Okay, I almost spat soda on my keyboard when I read this. ::laughs:: 

Dodgeman wrote...

We all know very well what the freck happened. No clarifications needed. The ending was sheit.

But, nonetheless the ending was important, it can atleast illuminate other storytellers on how not to cook up an ending.



Yeah, even if the game's ending is never resolved - I think I've learned more in the last two weeks about tale spinning than I ever did in College.

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The Retake movement situation is in what you would call the eye of the storm right now. For the moment, they've been given enough satisfactory information to have them wait calmly but threatening to explode again until it is revealed exactly what is being done to the endings and everyone experiences them. If they don't meet what the Retake movement and fans want them to be, I suspect Bioware will experience the second portion of the storm, and that time around, I don't think Bioware will be able to take the bad weather a second time. A lot of people will walk away from Bioware or at least be very wary of them in the future.

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Waiting for April before I make any final decision on ME3 and BW, so far though they're not scoring well. PAX should be interesting though, whether they say anything definitive or no.

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warrior256 wrote...

People seem to think that we have won based off of Biowares statements. I don't think that's true myself, but hey, that could just be me!


Actually, most people seem to think the exact opposite.

BioWare has promised "clarification" and "closure".  Which means they aren't rewriting or changing the ending, and we are stuck with an ending executed as incorrectly as humanly possible.

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Still here, but the supposed announcement in April is what most people are waiting for.

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The fight is not over yet tomorrow is another waves of letters/emails

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Still here and hoping for a better ending. All that can be said has already been said. Bioware acknowledged our concerns and is planning some sort of ending DLC, more details of which will be announced at PAX. We did our part, the ball is now firmly in Bioware's court, and there really isn't anything more that we can meaningfully do or say until they play their hand in April.

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Herr Igor wrote...

Holding the line!

Even more after THIS:


http://www.reddit.co...new_ending_dlc/
 
http://www.reddit.co...possible_leaked


that... would.. suck.

I don't mind some of the ideas there but the idea of having shep die (even if we got the breathing scene) and being taken over by the catalyst is stupid. How, if he destroys all the synthetic parts including those in himself, does the spacebrat take him over? Also the idea of taking the hero and having him become possessed by the spacebrat so spacebrat can continue to stop people from creating advanced synthetics basically means we didn't win. 

Some of those ideas sound cool but I really hope that isn't true. Also the idea that shep was "badly burned in reentry" makes me think of that Austin Powers scene  (Please...help.. I am.. very . . badly burned). The citidel/catalyst blew up and collapsed into earth, so there was no more protective shell to protect shep. He would have been incinerated upon reentry.