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[Falcon509]

Two reasons, OP.

First, I've spent a good chunk of change on Bioware over the years and I was informed that certain elements would be in the game... Some were in the game, as promised. However, many were not. I'm waiting to see what Bioware comes up with to amend the current ending. I remain hopeful, but pessimistic. All the press releases from Bioware recently seem to indicate that they care more about sticking to their guns than pleasing their customers.

Second, if they do not deliver on what was promised, I will stay here to discourage other from buying further product from them. I will make it a point to make sure that they lose as many customers as possible. You see, I work retail and one thing that gets drilled into us is that a happy customer might tell one or two people about their experience; but a dissatisfied customer will tell up to ten people about their experience. Bioware will see this happen, I'm sure.

[Fruxie]

I check back now and again for news. Oh and some people post interesting stuff that I enjoy reading.

[Vhalkyrie]

Commander Shepard deserved better than this. She wouldn't blindly accept the Starchild, and neither do I. Right now I feel like Commander Shepard yelling at a council that won't listen. I'm hanging around to raise noise until they do something, because that's what my Shep would do, too.

[Nicky 192]

Aaleel wrote...

I figure it's because they paid their money for the game, registered it and have to right to let Bioware know their dissatisfaction with the product they were sold.

I honestly never understand there threads, it always comes off as if you don't have something good to say about the game you should leave because all feedback must be positive because I liked the game.

This ^^^

And depending on what the outcome is, i will know if its worth buying another Bioware game again. I certainly wont buy a day one release though ever again.

[Wolven_Soul]

Logan Cloud wrote...

As the title says, "Why are you still here?"

Many of you have come to the conclusion that because of the ending of Mass Effect 3, you will never purchase another product from Bioware. So is there a legit reason for spamming the forums with your comlaining? Why don't you just leave? It's very clear to me that you're done with Bioware, so why stay on their site? You're torturing yourself, and you're cluttering the forums with things we've heard from hundreds of others already. Yeah, we get it. You hated the ending. Many people did. You're just saying what's already been said. Nobody is going to look at you as a prophet because you pointed out some plot holes. Simply because, as I said, it's already been said.

I mean no disrespect towards anyone here of course. I'll admit that my post has a certain... Tone, to it. But that's simple annoyance by the lack of diverse topics going on in these forums lately.

So please just explain, what is your reason for staying on BSN? Keep it friendly guys.

I am not going to never buy another Bioware game, I am just never going to buy another Mass Effect game or DLC if the endings stand.  But even if it was the case that I was never to buy another Bioware game period, I would still probably come here simply because I love to debate things.

[KotorEffect3]

Aaleel wrote...

I figure it's because they paid their money for the game, registered it and have to right to let Bioware know their dissatisfaction with the product they were sold.

I honestly never understand there threads, it always comes off as if you don't have something good to say about the game you should leave because all feedback must be positive because I liked the game.

Maybe if people spoke up about stuff they liked then that stuff won't get removed in the next game.  I often see people complaining about things being removed that they liked when maybe if more people had been positive and had spoken up for features they liked than those features would have remained.  Kind of like how people that liked the Mako never spoke up for it until they realised it was gone from ME 2.  Well gee maybe if you didn't let people who hated the mako out shout you, it might have been kept.  That is of course just an example,  I didn't mind the mako but I didn't miss it either.  A more recent example would be Harbinger if more of us had spoken up for him in ME 2 he would have had a larger role in ME 3 instead we let the negative ones that didn't like him outshout us.

Some people seem to be under the impression that negative vitriolic feedback is the only legitimate feedback when positive feedback is just as important in maintaining series integrity for any game.  Devs can't read minds you have to let them know what you liked.

[Greed1914]

Aznable Char wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

As the title says, "Why are you still here?"

Many of you have come to the conclusion that because of the ending of Mass Effect 3, you will never purchase another product from Bioware. So is there a legit reason for spamming the forums with your comlaining? Why don't you just leave? It's very clear to me that you're done with Bioware, so why stay on their site? You're torturing yourself, and you're cluttering the forums with things we've heard from hundreds of others already. Yeah, we get it. You hated the ending. Many people did. You're just saying what's already been said. Nobody is going to look at you as a prophet because you pointed out some plot holes. Simply because, as I said, it's already been said.

I mean no disrespect towards anyone here of course. I'll admit that my post has a certain... Tone, to it. But that's simple annoyance by the lack of diverse topics going on in these forums lately.

So please just explain, what is your reason for staying on BSN? Keep it friendly guys.

1. To be here when new members arrive who are disatisfied so that I can tell them they are not alone , there are a lot of us , and show them to relevant site and data that supports them .

2. To make it clear to Bioware that we still exist . They already know a lot of people have fallen silent simply out of tossing BioWare out of their pocketbooks , but I want to encourage them that there are still us fans who will purchase their games IF they fix it .

3. await news on a fix .

4. Respond to news .

5. Add my encouragement to threads that support changing the ending .

Agreed on all 5 points. 

[mumwaldee369]

For the lulz?

[KotorEffect3]

Falcon509 wrote...

Two reasons, OP.

First, I've spent a good chunk of change on Bioware over the years and I was informed that certain elements would be in the game... Some were in the game, as promised. However, many were not. I'm waiting to see what Bioware comes up with to amend the current ending. I remain hopeful, but pessimistic. All the press releases from Bioware recently seem to indicate that they care more about sticking to their guns than pleasing their customers.

Second, if they do not deliver on what was promised, I will stay here to discourage other from buying further product from them. I will make it a point to make sure that they lose as many customers as possible. You see, I work retail and one thing that gets drilled into us is that a happy customer might tell one or two people about their experience; but a dissatisfied customer will tell up to ten people about their experience. Bioware will see this happen, I'm sure.

So you want to screw things up for us that enjoy the series by hurting their bottom line putting future content in jeopardy.  How selfish of you.  There is a reason why DA 2 only had 2 post launch DLCs.

[Rockpopple]

Good question.

[sth128]

We are here because *bleep* Shepard blew up all the RELAYS!!! WE ARE STUCK HERE!!!

AND I'M HUNGRY!!! WHERE'S MY DEXTRO-AMINO MEAL??? I'm gonna eat Tali!

[beank]

I like reading and comparing the ideas generated on this part of the board.... once the ending thing is decided i will probably only visit once a month or so....

[kingonthewall]

I like reading ideas and it helps to share the disappointment instead of a big glass of it to ourselves we all got a few drinks.

[heathxxx]

Everyone is equal and when registering their product, they register with the forums.

Irrespective of "opinions", so long as they don't break forum rules or guidelines, they're as "entitled" to be here, as much as anyone else. Plain & simple.

For those who aren't happy with thread hijacking, or any individual posts, that's why they have a "Report this post" button... the mods will do the rest, if they feel something is actionable.

[Bloodhound66]

Gotta hold the line, bro. It's messy now, but things are gonna clear up. All in good time. But right now people are peeved and we're showing BW that.

Also, I certainly still plan on buying BW games. Regardless of a crap ending, ME is still my favorite series. I'm playing ME1 again for my first FemShep playthrough. DA:O, KOTOR, and Jade Empire are all also among my most memorable games. I'd assume many people still feel that way towards BW, despite the apparant influence of EA.

So I think it's a wee bit of an overstatement to say that all of us mad with the ending have all sworn off BW games and have no more place on the forums. I can certainly sympathize on the mass flooding of the same topics taking too much room on the boards thpugh, that much is 100% true enough. Quit making new threads about the same freaking topic people!

[Panicomatic]

DJBare wrote...

My question is why not?, it's a private forum that's accessible to the public, and obviously many of us hope to have our faith in Bioware will be restored.

This guy's picture of Sean Connery.

[pharsti]

Waiting for April?

Thats all im doing, besides, this place can be fun sometimes.

[Panicomatic]

Actually because Diablo III and Guild Wars 2 aren't out, yet.

[Panicomatic]

Logan Cloud wrote...

Oh God, please don't compare yourself to Commander Shepard.

I respect your opinion to dislike the endings, but the "Retake" movement is anything but heroic or noble.

You know, a good portion of the people in the retake movement knowingly donated to charity. It wasn't out of altruism, but I would say that donating to a children's charity is noble. There has been a lot of fighting, but I would attribute that to individuals as apposed to the movement as a whole. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it's not valid. If anything, I would say that the movement was largely successful due to its one and only goal: making BioWare aware that we are not happy with the ending. Also, please keep in mind that not everyone that was dissatisfied with the ending was part of the retake movement. 

[t_i_e_]

After this .... this fiasco..... Well lets just say a life long gamer's rage with the direction the games industry is going can be a powerful tempering agent.

[NamelessJT]

Logan Cloud wrote...

So many of you have said something along the lines of, "I'm not done with
Bioware" or "I still love the series" and my only response is
this:

This post isn't refering to you.

Actually, your post is. 

The people you may of thought you were referring to are either finding practice
at trolling (successfully) somewhere else or are non-existent.  While it
is ignorant to think there are not people who exist who find pleasure in
displeasure... the overwhelming majority of individuals who have put in the
effort and time to bring themselves to this slice of the information
super-highway are here because they want to be here.

I've invested a lot of my entertainment time into Bioware's Mass Effect
universe.  The only regret I've had in that time spent was the ending of
the trilogy, which has motivated me enough to come here among fellow gaming
peers to speak my peace and share and receive information.  

Have I cancelled a TOR account and have gone out of my way not to touch any
Bioware games to show my displeasure?  I sure have... but that
doesn't necessarily mean I've washed my hands clean of them.  My voice is
but one quiet insignificant sound to a company who makes tens of millions of
dollars on their products from millions of customers.  Yet, with BSN, I can
add that quiet voice to thousands of others to create something a lot louder
than what I could do alone.  One customer is meaningless to Bioware
(regardless of what they may say to the contrary), but a thousand?  50,000?  That's
a lot different.

I'm here because people who share my opinion are here - and our collective
millions of revenue are speaking out.  Bioware has shown itself to be a
company that makes quality product with the intent to please customers - and dissatisfaction
does not necessitate immediate termination of services.  Yet silence is
does show compliance for poor craftsmanship.

Meow.

Logan Cloud wrote...

Oh God, please don't compare yourself to Commander Shepard.

I respect your opinion to dislike the endings, but the "Retake" movement is anything but heroic or noble.

Also, that comment makes me think you're not really asking a question, merely attempting to illict a response from people.  Well done, good sir.  Please give my regards to all your friends to whom you've no doubt giggled in a circle with.

Modifié par NamelessJT, 26 mars 2012 - 03:28 .

[Vhalkyrie]

Logan Cloud wrote...

Oh God, please don't compare yourself to Commander Shepard.

I respect your opinion to dislike the endings, but the "Retake" movement is anything but heroic or noble.

Neither is the ending.

I speak for myself.  I don't like the ending, and I'll stick around for as long as I please.

[Edit]  And yea, I will compare myself to Commander Shepard.  Because I supposedly drove the experience and action for 3 games.  So did everyone else who was here.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 26 mars 2012 - 03:31 .

[malra]

waiting for an april announcement, chuckling to myself about the people who keep trying to make the ending make sense, commiserating with those who know we were sold a pile of ****, and reading and occasionally responding to astute observations posted by others like myself who obviously spent too much time in the series. my response to Bioware will be based on Bioware's response to the game. and yes, I will either leave, and not buy anymore bioware products or i will stay and will continue to enjoy products from a company that up until ME3 had no peer in the story telling realm. sadly any continued relationship with bioware will be "bittersweet" considering their abuse of my trust.

[cyrrant]

Holding the line, giving Bioware a chance to rectify their mistake.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line