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[Heimdall]

Vulcan101 wrote...

Shepard to the Turian

" You Turians are honorouble people. Saren was an honorouble Turian. Would an honourable Turian betray his people?betray his duty? Violate everything a spectre stands for? Would an honorouble Turian do a dishonourable thing? No. Then what explains Saren? Saren's behaviour only makes sense if he was indoctrinated"

BTW the sovereign conversation even if not recorded was witnessesd by two others, does their word not count for something.

Realistically speaking, there would have been a full public inquiry as we Brits say, and the truth would have came out in the end council be damned. And even if the council did not believe me, I would have stoked fear over geth and sparked rivalry with the Turians in order to get everyone ready for war.

Um, Saren was a ruthless human hating psychopath before Sovreign even entered the picture...  Even the turians believed he was ruthless.  The squaddies can confirm what Shepard saw, but the Council believed the whole thing was a ruse by Sovreign to sidetrack Shepard.

There's also nothing in you're prior post about proof.

[BigBad]

Not all Turians are honorable people. There are just as many Turian scumbags as there are human, batarian, or krogan scumbags.

[Mars8309]

Zalbik wrote...

I really wanted to see Shepard tell them " I told you so"

I second that

[Emperor Iaius I]

Vulcan101 wrote...

My Shep is a Thomas Jefferson kinda a gal, no taxation no representation, and the representation ain't much.

When Shepard took control of the citidel ( ending of me1) first thing I would have Shepard do is stack the council with majority humans, rope in the volus, elcor and hanar as partners ( since they are discriminated against.) then I would have extended a seat seats but non- voting prilivages to the Quarians.

With this political support I would have declared war on the geth ( Shepard had no intel on non-indoc geth) and the reapers. The Quarians would have joined me in this fight ( against the geth but really the reapers.) then I would have shown people video evidence of sovereign, and would have presented findings of scientists showing that sovereign design is not geth.

Long story short, Shepard should have done a "ceasar" took supreme command and then when the reapers actually did invade everyone would have been ready.

Yeah, because fascism is always the answer? There's always a nice handy little emergency to use as an excuse to seize power, and then use the fear of the populace to ram down anti-democratic changes. And then, of course, raise the lowly and the base to positions of power that they could never have attained on their own, so they owe their position to you.

Yeah, your Shepard sounds like a tyrant. 

There's a reason why I support the Council, and it's to prevent things like that from happening. 

Thetri wrote...

I saw the chance to get rid of them so I took it. Spent all of ME1 trolling them, I disconnected every conversation with them since I don't like talking ignorant people.

 

Sure, because a hot-shot human with an assault rifle knows what's best for trillions of people and a mind-boggling galactic economy. Spectres aren't supposed to be completely unaccountable--they're supposed to answer to the Council at the very least, and there's a good reason for it: otherwise they're renegades in the worst sense. They become military strong-men, meting out justice on a whim.

If my best agent went incommunicado for two years, and then showed up as a catspaw of the #1 terrorist mastermind, I'd not trust him either. Especially if he came from such a mercurial and unreliable species.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

After Sovereign and the existence of the geths I cannot agree with the council.

[Aetius5]

Its obvious guys; the Council is indoctrinated.

[Little Princess Peach]

I would have to semi agree on the opining post, there is always room for open thaught

[vinyalonn]

I was actually perturbed by this issue in ME3. There were a few moments in particular early on where Shepard really stopped feeling like my "avatar" and more like just his own separate entity. Like when you first arrive at the Citadel to request aid from the Council. 
The way he acts like Earth being attacked should be the ultimate galactic priority and that every species should just immediately drop what they're doing and commit 100% of their time and forces to save Earth over their own home worlds is just plain ole' stupid to me. I understand that as a human, Earth is going to be a priority to him personally, but to expect the Council to treat Earth as like the "Capital of the Universe" because it's the human home world and Shepard is human so obviously it's more important than any other home world, is incredibly arrogant (for lack of a better word).

And them him and Udina!

Udina "They're a bunch of self-concerned jack-asses Shepard!!"

Shepard "How can they be so blind?!"

Turian Councilor "If you could rescue this one Turian political figure, (from our home world, which is also getting fubar'ed...) it would pave the way for an alliance and the liberation of Earth."

Shepard "Harumph!!!"

Also not to mention the whole "Unless we want to talk the Reapers to death, the commitee is a waste of time."
Yeah Shepard... because coordinating information, discussing the problem, and organizing a plan and strategy is for wussies!! I mean c'mon, we already have a plan: "We fight, or we die"!

Got it, send out the plan across all communications channels so everyone knows what to do. I mean GEEZ! Those guys obviously need to grow a pair, pick up sum boomsticks, and just start shootin' sh*t!!

And also the comment of "The Citadel? The fight's HERE."
Again, right Shepard... Rallying our allies for aid and reinforcments is time wasted that could be spent gunning down a few more cannibals... 

Even one of the War Room guards on the Normandy points out how "We'd do the same thing in their shoes" regarding the Council's response to Earth.

Modifié par vinyalonn, 29 mars 2012 - 05:32 .

[Sebbe1337o]

Zalbik wrote...

I really wanted to see Shepard tell them " I told you so"

I wanted to say this through entire ME3, I was sad when I couldn't.

[jess05]

arial wrote...

 Playin through ME1-3 again andf honestly, this came to mind.

If I was on the council, or anyone in the ME universe for that matter, Id think Shepard had gone crazy from all these near death situations hes been in throughout his life.

Think of this, your sitting in your office and a person from another department kicks down your door "RUN! space monstors are coming to eat us all! GAAAH!". wouldn't you think "holy ----, he is crazy"

Yes, I too would think crazy.
But if later that evening a space monster attacks and we kill it, and he says .. "You dont understand. More are coming."
At that point I think Id take him a tad more seriously.