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[Skirata129]

according to this article by cinema blend, both quoting and analyzing responses from Jamie Dillon regarding questions posed about the ending of the Child's Play charity drive, the drive was not actually ended due to a large number of mentally disabled gamers thinking they were contributing to a fund intended to buy ending DLC from Bioware, but instead due to corporate politics, namely Penny Arcade wanting to distance themselves from the Retake Mass Effect movement.

The fact that a charity intended to help sick children was cut short, despite being enormously successful, in order for a game reviewer to remove any perceived association between themselves and a movement protesting an Industry giant's current installment in a major franchise speaks volumes more than I could ever hope to point out.

[Unit-Alpha]

We knew that was the truth to a degree already.

[Lankist]

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

Modifié par Lankist, 26 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[The Angry One]

I imagined the number of charge-backs was exagerrated.
While there are always fools around who actually think they're owed something for a donation, for them to be so many to force the drive to shut down? Yeah, sure.

[Unit-Alpha]

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

[SnakeStrike8]

I feel wretched even typing this, but part of me (the cynical, utterly jaded part) says that EA leaned on Penny Arcade to shut down the drive because they could all see what it was accomplishing and where we were all going with it.
I'd very much like to believe that I'm wrong- even EA couldn't be heartless enough to deny funds to a children's charity, right?- but still...

[BWGungan]

Skirata129 wrote...

according to this article by cinema blend, both quoting and analyzing responses from Jamie Dillon regarding questions posed about the ending of the Child's Play charity drive, the drive was not actually ended due to a large number of mentally disabled gamers thinking they were contributing to a fund intended to buy ending DLC from Bioware, but instead due to corporate politics, namely Penny Arcade wanting to distance themselves from the Retake Mass Effect movement.

The fact that a charity intended to help sick children was cut short, despite being enormously successful, in order for a game reviewer to remove any perceived association between themselves and a movement protesting an Industry giant's current installment in a major franchise speaks volumes more than I could ever hope to point out.

Duh.  The PA guys are all chumy with BioWare people.  I was also pretty sure that Gabe actually did some work with/on ME3.  That was obvious already.  We just need to find a different charity.

Modifié par BWGungan, 26 mars 2012 - 02:38 .

[SamFlagg]

Guys, this one is something you just let go.

There is nothing to be gained from dwelling on it.

[Lankist]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

You are currently demonstrating precisely why they do not want to be associated with us.

You donated to a charity. Do not complain about the charity. You can still donate to them directly, there is absolutely nothing stopping you. The drive ended amicably, there is no conspiracy.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

That's pretty lame

[recentio]

"....agendas we clearly do not support."

Politics, indeed. But it was nice to be called "Indian givers" (insulting Retake and Native Americans in a single phrase) on the way out the door. Thanks for all the chips, Penny Arcade.

[Cody211282]

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

This

I support getting new endings but some people have become friken rabid attack dogs.

[BWGungan]

Lankist wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

You are currently demonstrating precisely why they do not want to be associated with us.

You donated to a charity. Do not complain about the charity. You can still donate to them directly, there is absolutely nothing stopping you. The drive ended amicably, there is no conspiracy.

What I want to know is how they identified which donations belong to the Retake movement, cuz I sure as hell didn't specify.

[True Zarken]

Hmm, I just don't know anymore.

Modifié par True Zarken, 26 mars 2012 - 02:39 .

[Unit-Alpha]

Lankist wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

You are currently demonstrating precisely why they do not want to be associated with us.

You donated to a charity. Do not complain about the charity. You can still donate to them directly, there is absolutely nothing stopping you. The drive ended amicably, there is no conspiracy.

I didn't donate through their link because of people like you.

[Blackmind1]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

No, he was right the first time. Most people in the REtake movement are autistic.

[Lankist]

BWGungan wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

You are currently demonstrating precisely why they do not want to be associated with us.

You donated to a charity. Do not complain about the charity. You can still donate to them directly, there is absolutely nothing stopping you. The drive ended amicably, there is no conspiracy.

What I want to know is how they identified which donations belong to the Retake movement, cuz I sure as hell didn't specify.

Paypal has all of the details on the transaction between Chipin to Child's Play, and Child's Play would know where the money came from if someone requested a refund.

[Oni Changas]

I'm not going to lie and say I donated (despite being a part of the movement), but that just pisses me off. I liked PA a lot prior to this debacle, and for them to do something so shortsighted and heartless just kills any respect I had for those guys. So that's one less bookmark on my browser.

[DemGeth]

"Yay do we get to attack charities now?"

Modifié par DemGeth, 26 mars 2012 - 02:41 .

[Golferguy758]

Not reading through the thread, but I hope that it's not saying that BW had the charity pulled because i will e-slap any person who thinks that.

[The Angry One]

Blackmind1 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

No, he was right the first time. Most people in the REtake movement are autistic.

Insults and making light of a serious real life condition.
You're just charming aren't you?

[recentio]

DemGeth wrote...

"Yay do we get to attack charities now?"

Who has done that here?

Speaking for myself, I question the decision and its rather suspect motivation. This is not a slight against the charity itself whatsoever -- I think Child's Play is a wonderful cause and that was the reason I donated to it. No regrets.

Modifié par recentio, 26 mars 2012 - 02:44 .

[IronSabbath88]

So? Donate yourself. Do not use the game's ending as an excuse for you to donate to charity. That's what I hated most about the Retake movement.

Well, that and the slogan on the page "DEMANDING" a better ending. Yeah.. I didn't agree with it, and I'll leave it at that.

Still, donate out of the goodness of your heart, not because you hate a game ending.

[The Angry One]

Nobody's been attacking, the white knights merely like to paint the retake movement as belligerent whenever they can.

[Lankist]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lankist wrote...

Perhaps they wanted to distance themselves from us because we're attacking everyone who looks at us the wrong way, including the charity itself?

Just a thought.

It more likely has to do with the fact that Penny Arcade attacked the Retake movement and couldn't bring themselves to be bigger hypocrites.

You are currently demonstrating precisely why they do not want to be associated with us.

You donated to a charity. Do not complain about the charity. You can still donate to them directly, there is absolutely nothing stopping you. The drive ended amicably, there is no conspiracy.

I didn't donate through their link because of people like you.

I'm sorry if "someone like me" offended you in some way, but the fact that the charity is currently being attacked is precisely why they wanted to distance themselves. Just look at your words and the words of others. A week ago, people were championing Child's Play and defending it vehemently. Today, folks are brewing up conspiracy theories, allegations of conflicted interests, perjury and hipocracy. If you ran a charity, would you want your name to be associated with that sort of powder-keg?

You need to understand their viewpoint. They are going to be protecting their charity's interests and wellbeing well before even considering any of the ancillary causes or issues. Full stop, that is the smartest thing they can do. Is it a shame that the drive had to end? Yes. But you need to understand where they're coming from. Associating themselves with side-causes and powder-keg movements could cause great damage to the charity's public image, which would damage its future prospects for fundraising in the long-term.

Modifié par Lankist, 26 mars 2012 - 02:47 .