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[Skyblade012]

The more I look at the ending, the less convinced I get.  How can something this masterful be accidental?

It's not just a bad ending.  It's not just poorly written.  It is an outright destruction of everything that made the series.

Theme of unifying diverse cultures: Thrown away
Theme of overcoming unbeatable odds: Thrown away
Theme of forging one's own path in the galaxy: Thrown away
The Implacable and Unstoppable foes: Thrown away
The Mass Relays that are the basis of the entire franchise: Thrown away
The ability to argue with entities on Shepard's level: Thrown away

The list goes on and on.  If you were to give the series to a talented writer, and tell them "destroy everything that makes this series what it is", I do not think they could have done a better job.  I cannot think of a single theme, gameplay mechanic, character trait, or plot point that this ending does not outright junk.

And that's not even thinking about all the lies we were told, the 100% fabrications we were given by the developers leading up to release.

Is it possible to do something this wrong by accident?  Or did BioWare just really want to destroy the series?  Did they want to rebel against EA, show that they could screw up the franchise so bad that EA couldn't milk it anymore?  Did they get sick of the hype and obsession, and just want to kill the entire fanbase?  Did they just get sick of the IP and want to trash it and move on?

This is just too perfect to be unplanned.  This was deliberate and direct attempt to assassinate the series, and I have to say, it worked.

[UrgentArchengel]

Yup.

[JimJohnJim]

It really is bad writing.

[Phaedra Sanguine]

http://i39.tinypic.com/1gnlw2.jpg

[Reptilian Rob]

"Torch the franchise and run."

[Welsh Inferno]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

"Torch the franchise and run."

^

Then sell many many prequels.

[Menalaos1971]

Well, did you notice that Drew Karpyshyn, who wrote ME1, ME2, and the two good ME books did not write the last ME book that actually got recalled and rewritten, or ME3?

Maybe, instead of shifting Karpyshyn to SWTOR, which was his area of expertise to be honest, they should have kept him on to finish the ME trilogy correctly...

[Cody211282]

Ya I'm just calking it up to bad writing.

[Skyblade012]

JimJohnJim wrote...

It really is bad writing.

Yes, it is.

But is it just bad writing, or is it deliberately bad writing?  Was it carefully constructed to, if not be as bad as possible, at least do as much damage to the series as possible?

[tommythetomcat]

It's a deadline they couldn't meet, they threw out an entire idea for the ending as late as November. I have no doubt we would of had a great ending if the game was delayed for another 3 months.

[nwz]

Skyblade012 wrote...

Is it possible to do something this wrong by accident?  Or did BioWare just really want to destroy the series?  Did they want to rebel against EA, show that they could screw up the franchise so bad that EA couldn't milk it anymore?  Did they get sick of the hype and obsession, and just want to kill the entire fanbase?  Did they just get sick of the IP and want to trash it and move on?

Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Why in the world would they rebel and ****** off everyone? That just does not make sense (like chewbacca-defense).

[Bomma72]

Or indoctrination?

[Reptilian Rob]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

"Torch the franchise and run."

^

Then sell many many prequels.

I'm serious though, I wanted to do things to Garrus. haha

[Soulstice88]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Well, did you notice that Drew Karpyshyn, who wrote ME1, ME2, and the two good ME books did not write the last ME book that actually got recalled and rewritten, or ME3?

Maybe, instead of shifting Karpyshyn to SWTOR, which was his area of expertise to be honest, they should have kept him on to finish the ME trilogy correctly...

This. Im pretty sure ME3 would've benefited more from Drew then TOR.  Not to mention his entire idea behind the Reapers is better then who wrote the current endings

[Skyblade012]

nwz wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...

Is it possible to do something this wrong by accident?  Or did BioWare just really want to destroy the series?  Did they want to rebel against EA, show that they could screw up the franchise so bad that EA couldn't milk it anymore?  Did they get sick of the hype and obsession, and just want to kill the entire fanbase?  Did they just get sick of the IP and want to trash it and move on?

Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Why in the world would they rebel and ****** off everyone? That just does not make sense (like chewbacca-defense).

If you worked for EA for five years, and felt they were destroying what made your company and work as great as it was, that'd be reason enough for me to revolt.


Mainly this:  Can anyone think of a way the series could have been damaged more by the ending?  Because I can't, and I've been thinking about it for a while.

[Cody211282]

Paxcorpus wrote...

http://i39.tinypic.com/1gnlw2.jpg

Well that's just fake.

[N-Seven]

Actually I thought up until he met the Starchild, it was decent. The near hit from the red beam. The slow-mo, cinematic sequence of Shepard staggering into the beam, nothing but a pistol, and into the Citadel. The tense standoff with the Illusive Man, and his tender moment with Anderson at the end. Good, climactic stuff.. Just the Catachild bit and onward was an extreme letdown.

[MrnDpty161]

Sad isn't it fellow ME fans?

Tragic. Tragic. Terrible twist of writing in the wrong direction.

[gudman]

No, it's "SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!" and yes, it's bad and unfinished. Not going to change.

[mrderp27]

Cody211282 wrote...

Paxcorpus wrote...

http://i39.tinypic.com/1gnlw2.jpg

Well that's just fake.

and as equally bad

[jumpingkaede]

The thing with Drew is that if they made his ending and it sucked I would accept that as part of the author's vision. Because it IS his story and they've at least hinted at the dark energy crisis.

The ending we got in ME3, not to mention the entire plot with the Crucible, was completely out of left field.

[jimbo32]

Apparently (if the leaks are genuine, and I'm understanding it correctly), they wanted the ME universe in a "galactic dark age" in order to set up future games.

Makes perfect sense, right? "Let's destroy our relationship with our fans and completely wreck the ME storyline so we'll be able to make more games in the franchise".

Having a very specific idea for a future game and writing the ending to your current game to suit that idea might be about the dumbest thing I've heard in years. If it's true, people should be fired.

[DaeJi]

It's either horrid writing or we just spent $60 to $80 dollars (US) on an unfinished game.

[nwz]

Skyblade012 wrote...

If you worked for EA for five years, and felt they were destroying what made your company and work as great as it was, that'd be reason enough for me to revolt.


Mainly this:  Can anyone think of a way the series could have been damaged more by the ending?  Because I can't, and I've been thinking about it for a while.

I can follow your logic, but then again that course of action is just plain stupid. Remember that there are a alot of people whose livelihood is dependant on Bioware. 

[Greed1914]

It is rather baffling that the people that could deliver so much awesomeness could also utterly botch the last moments so horribly.