706 réponses à ce sujet

[txgoldrush]

Face it.....a happy ending WOULD break the intergrity of the game.

The MAIN THEME of Mass Effect 3 is VICTORY THROUGH SACRIFICE.. This requires an ending that is bittersweet at best. Yes trilogies as a whole can overlying themes throughout, such as overcoming all odds (which WAS fuffilled in ME3, Shepard DID break the cycle), but single entries in a series or trilogy has their own themes.

Bioware should, and looks like they are, provide far more clarity and closure, however, not change the tone of the ending or provide a happy ending. To do so is selling out and breaking the relevance of the ending....

Hell, ME1 was not a fully happy ending, in fact had elements of victory through sacrifice, as either the a part of the alliance navy or the council is sacrificed, and ME2 is a hollow victory at best. This isn't Star Wars either, where Alderaan and Taris can be annihilated but be no longer relevant 5 minutes later....and end on a ceremony. And ME3 is so dark, a happy ending would not be appropriate.

In fact, ending the current universe and creating a new beginning IS A GOOD THING and a smart move. That needs to stay.

[Unit-Alpha]

Yeah, well throwing out one theme is better than throwing out ALL OF THEM.

[Mesmurae]

You don't get to defend artistic integrity when you start photoshopping images from Google. Bioware did a lot of that.

[CronoDragoon]

By happy ending people mean Shepard reunited with his crew and all the galactic races not screwed in Sol system. Characters still die during the game, Thessia was lost, Earth is a pile of rubble, etc etc. The game is going to be bittersweet no matter what; you sacrificed a lot during the game. Doesn't mean everyone has to die.

[Zix13]

No. The current ending is a ridiculous state to leave the universe in.

[Xandax]

Actually - as I see it - the main theme of Mass Effect series is to stand up in defiance against the inevitable and change a no-win situation into a win.

That's *the* defining character trait the 'Shepard' character. Heck - it's even represented in the character generation of ME1 and the introduction to the series.

So ..... no, there's nothing artistic integrity about a lazy, plot-hole filled ending. 

Modifié par Xandax, 26 mars 2012 - 06:03 .

[Dreogan]

If they take away the audience's expected ending ("happy") then they have an obligation to make their choice more compelling than the expectation. So-called "artistic integrity" demands this.

Bioware catastrophically failed their first attempt. Here's to #2.

Modifié par Dreogan, 26 mars 2012 - 06:05 .

[LilyasAvalon]

My sacrifice can't be optional?

Seriously, saying a happy ending can't belong in a war game is ****ing insulting in RL comparison. What the hell do people do in RL after a war ends after all? They go back to their loved ones, they get married, they honour the lost, the fallen, they bring new life into this world.

[Spectre-00N7]

txgoldrush wrote...
In fact, ending the current universe and creating a new beginning IS A GOOD THING and a smart move. That needs to stay.

So commiting mass genocide for the greater good is a happy ending?  Or is getting ride of diversity is happy?  Maybe controlling the Reapers like TIM wanted to do was really the happy ending...

[Spanking Machine]

The fact that the ending isn't happy isn't the reason people are complaining.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

 Then break it to peices.  I don't care one bit about "artistic Integrity", in fact, since it is apparently getting in the way of product quality and enjoyment, I am very much against keeping it intact.

[2484Stryker]

Hmm,
1) Photoshopped Tali's face from stock image - CHECK
2) Photoshopped Stargazer background from stock image - CHECK
3) Apply the wrong theme to the ending AND screwed up its application - CHECK
4) Took content out of game and sell as DLC - CHECK
5) Shameless advertisement @ end for future DLC - CHECK

It's official, ME3 is not art - it's a product that may have a defective ending. The CONSUMERS are right, yet again.

[loboME2]

It's a story designed to be shaped by the users. Artistic integrity isn't even in the equation.

[Reptilian Rob]

Day one DLC.

[MOIST N FLUFFY]

Your face is breaking artistic integrity.

[kookie28]

If someone says "artistic integrity" again I WILL punch a baby.

[recentio]

What a relief, then, that what is actually being asked for is an ending THAT MAKES SENSE.

Glad we got that sorted out.

Modifié par recentio, 26 mars 2012 - 06:06 .

[ZweiImpulse]

I don't get where this argument that we want ONLY a happy ending came from.

What we've always been asking are the myriad of DIFFERENT ENDINGS we were promised. Yes, a happy ending should be one of these OPTIONS, but it is only one of MANY.

We don't want ONE ending. we want a logical and throughly thought out endings we were promised

[AdmiralCheez]

Yeah, well throwing out one theme is better than throwing out ALL OF THEM.

You don't get to defend artistic integrity when you start photoshopping images from Google. Bioware did a lot of that.

The fact that the ending isn't happy isn't the reason people are complaining.

I like it when people say what I'm thinking for me. Saves me time. Thanks, guys.

[Daedalus1773]

Don't want a happy ending.

Want an ending that makes sense, and doesn't obliterate the universe in the process.

[free17]

Anyone that would let THAT ending see the light of day has no artistic integrity to begin with.

Yeah, I said it.

[wantedman dan]

Dear Christ. We've been through this before.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

recentio wrote...

What a relief, then, that what is actually being asked for is an ending THAT MAKES SENSE.

Glad we got that sorted out.

No I want a h
appy ending.  I think it should be just one option, and one which must be earned, but it needs  to be there.

[KevShep]

Artistic integrity is not the meat of the gaming industry its only a part of it.
The Integrity that matters is the one of entertanment. Bioware needs to stop useing this a an excuse for a bad ending.

If artistic value is all they are worried about then they are in the wrong industry.