firebreather19 wrote...
mcsupersport wrote...
firebreather19 wrote...
mcsupersport wrote...
firebreather19 wrote...
Btw, I'm all for clarification. I'm all for whatever Bioware wants to do...it's their game, and they don't owe us anything. It won't change the position of my game, and if it makes others happy that's great.
But I will know, for a fact, that what I get out of the game as is (barring any extra clarification that might magnify the strength of some of the elements) is far more profound and will last a lot longer than what others will get if they do add on some cheap happy ending where Shep kicks ass rides a horse and streaks off into the sunset with the LI on the back. I get why you want it, I do...but it won't mean even an ounce as much. It's the equivalent of playing a generic FPS. Nothing new, nothing original, nothing even remotely honest in regards to the human experience.
LOL, there is nothing remotely HONEST in reguards to the human experience in THIS ending. I am glad you are so happy being so supiorior to everyone else and that you "Get IT!!"
LOL, you soooo smart.
How so?
Being smart and getting more out of an ending doesn't equal the same thing.
Thanks for chiming in sassypants.
1) The ending is a Duex Ex rip-off, it isn't new.
2) It doesn't fit the story that was told.
3) You are talking like it is something great, and you and the few who get it, can understand at a deeper level, above the "common" gamer.
4) The ending leaves more questions than it answers and uses a heavy handed bs mechanic to deliver them.
5) Tone of writing is everything.
6) Just because a Hero lives or dies doesn't change the human experience, if humans live they usually celebrate or procreate as they can.
7) Being smart and getting more out of the ending does pretty much, becuase you are saying you get something that others don't becuase you are different than them, ie by your tone and generalization of games, smarter/better.
1) Well Jesus in that case nothing's new, so let's go sit in the dirt and play with rocks and maybe we'll think up something original.
2) Sure as hell does. It wasn't "Shepard meets a gal/guy, falls in love, gets married, has kids, and oh in between all the drama and lovey dovey talks and kiss wishes he/she fought some robots called Reapers. Nbd though, more like a footnote." It was war since Eden Prime, Shepard vs. the Reapers. Shepard won. End.
3) I don't have to say anything, it's proving itself. You don't want a Donnie Darko ending, you want a Bounty Hunter ending. I get it. Means to an end v. end to means. I can say that because most people will also agree it invalidates the previous games, which is also a ridiculous assumption because the moments in which those choices are made are the ones that matter. If every choice is made pointless because of an impeding death, then really that's sadder than anything else.
4) Sure, more questions than answers is an argument I can appreciate. Luckily there's clarification coming, I hope.
5) Tone is also inferred
6) The human experience can be cheapened with some fake celebratory gold-medal ceremonyesque scene. It's kind of like the Assassin from Serenity when he says something along the lines of "I'm going to build the world, but I'm not going to be a part of it."
7) I have different appreciation for different things, it doesn't mean I'm smarter. If Bioware had originally put in some "happy ending" I'd be just as happy and defending it if this were opposite. But they created the universe, they molded the last 2 99/100ths of the Mass Effect games. I'm willing to follow them into the end, even if the only difference is whether I'm sending the Reapers to hell or leading the universe into an eternity of being harvested.
1) One of your points was it was something new, not mine, I was just pointing out it wasn't new and therefore not revolutionary and thus should be protected.
2) Shepard fights and Shepard wins, or does he, because he was fighting for the people of the galaxy, and they are mostly dead or will be dead soon. Plus it was all a "magic" ending for the most part using a "God" like individual to wave a magic wand and create an end. As just ONE example, Synthesis, how can you explain combining DNA level organic and synthetic with an energy wave and NOT use magic. Mass effect, the manipulation of the mass of an object doesn't come anywhere NEAR being able to blend at the DNA level.
3) The ending is broken in many ways, and you say you "Get" it like it is something special, sorry it is just broke, get out the superglue and duct-tape.
4) They promised Pre-release there would be NO unanswered questions and the ending would answer and explain...total failure here.
5) Tone is also in the words you use and how you phrase things, you may not MEAN it, but you do.
6) The human experience is often cheap, and people WILL celebrate after horrible events just to prove they are alive, maybe that is cheap, but it is the HUMAN way. Check how many babies were born right after WW2....
7) The fact that you look down on some "lame only a FPS would use it mechanic" when talking about it does indicate you think you are better than the common class of gamer.