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[Spectre-00N7]

kookie28 wrote...

If someone says "artistic integrity" again I WILL punch a baby.

free17 wrote...

artistic integrity

He said shenanigans

[Tazzmission]

 everytime i hear happy endings i think of an asian massuse parlor ..........

[Jadebaby]

They broke their own Artistic Integrity by selling that ending as it is now.

GOD I am sick of hearing that word!

[Deventh]

So if what you're saying is true this game should've ended way back in ME1. No i will not accept this, because this game has to have a happy ending just as it has to have a sad one (sacrifice)

[LilyasAvalon]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Yeah, well throwing out one theme is better than throwing out ALL OF THEM.

You don't get to defend artistic integrity when you start photoshopping images from Google. Bioware did a lot of that.

The fact that the ending isn't happy isn't the reason people are complaining.

I like it when people say what I'm thinking for me. Saves me time. Thanks, guys.

I thought you were pro-ending.

[MCP20012]

Happy endings may not be in line with the 'sacrifice theme', but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't give us endings that make more sense than the current ones that completely bash the theme of 'choice'.

[Vexille]

this games been about "sacrifice"? I dunno, I thought it felt more like overcoming the odds through unity and diversity.

Yet we get the ending option to say "**** diversity" and make everyone the same...



anyways I dont think the argument is people demanding a HAPPY ENDING as much as MULTIPLE ENDINGS that are determined by your choices. I expected happy and sad endings, not the choice between green blue or red explosions

[ed87]

People want the CHOICE of a happy ending. Thats a distinguishment that many people that start these threads fail to make

But more than that, people want endings that make more sense and fit better with the overall story. It doesnt need to be happy at all. I expected Shepard to die anyway because i already saw the leak

The path of arrogantly sticking to the 'artistic integrity' arguement to the point of losing fans and credibility is a silly one to walk, and its obvious that Bioware havent taken that path at the moment.

[cutegigi]

I personally dont care about artistic integrity. I want the things that I paid for able to make me happy. Doesn't really care how.

You are welcome to your opinion. but I will respectfully disagree.

Thank you.

Modifié par cutegigi, 26 mars 2012 - 06:12 .

[Elyiia]

That's funny. Seems to me that the MAIN THEME was strength through unity. Shep isn't a tragic hero and shouldn't be pigeon holed into being one.

[Rocktel]

How the heck is the main character being alive after billions dead a happy ending?

Modifié par Rocktel, 26 mars 2012 - 06:13 .

[Relwyn]

txgoldrush wrote...

Face it.....a happy ending WOULD break the intergrity of the game.

The MAIN THEME of Mass Effect 3 is VICTORY THROUGH SACRIFICE.. This requires an ending that is bittersweet at best. Yes trilogies as a whole can overlying themes throughout, such as overcoming all odds (which WAS fuffilled in ME3, Shepard DID break the cycle), but single entries in a series or trilogy has their own themes.

Bioware should, and looks like they are, provide far more clarity and closure, however, not change the tone of the ending or provide a happy ending. To do so is selling out and breaking the relevance of the ending....

Hell, ME1 was not a fully happy ending, in fact had elements of victory through sacrifice, as either the a part of the alliance navy or the council is sacrificed, and ME2 is a hollow victory at best. This isn't Star Wars either, where Alderaan and Taris can be annihilated but be no longer relevant 5 minutes later....and end on a ceremony. And ME3 is so dark, a happy ending would not be appropriate.

In fact, ending the current universe and creating a new beginning IS A GOOD THING and a smart move. That needs to stay.

BS, the main theme of mass effect is NOT "victory through sacrifice" but "make your own story" (choices and consequences) which is what they've been boasting about for years. And frankly, ME1 did have a happy ending, so did ME2.And how the hell is ME2 a hollow victory when everyone can survive the suicide mission? What games have you been playing?

ME3's ending is antithetical to the entire story so far because it takes away the option for the player completely. Also, integrity flies out the window when you promise things about your product and then your audience calls you on the BS/lies. Period.

Modifié par Relwyn, 26 mars 2012 - 06:15 .

[Promchek]

They've thrown their artistic integrity out of the window, when they decided to put current ending into the game. Making 2games in the row explicetly for mainstream, only to put such wannabe intelectual crap in the end, shows they hqve no artistic integrity to begin with.

[Aweus]

Shepard dying in ME2 suicide mission is breaking artistic integrity? Just give us CHOICES and let everyone pick. This game was supposed to be about choices. I dont have anything against options that I would hate as long as I am able to avoid them. Why on earth you are against an OPTION? If someone wants to explode entire galaxy let him have this option and let him pick it, I dont mind. No matter if ME3 ends happy, sad or bittersweet, you can still make premise for future games in this universe.

Modifié par Aweus, 26 mars 2012 - 06:14 .

[Daerog]

The endings are bad. Not because they are not happy but because of reasons said in many other threads.
Shepard can die, that's okay, but the whole starchild thing ruined it.

Also, why not a happy ending? The whole galaxy just went dark with the destruction of the galactic government, why not have Shepard live and smile upon a ruin that is Earth? Trillions died in this Reaper War, Shepard surviving will still make it bittersweet.

Still it is a new beginning, a whole reboot to the whole galaxy more like, tossing away all the characters that made players love ME, by either killing them off or making them stranded on an unknown planet (with no hope of rescue with no relays) or stuck in the Sol system.

[WizenSlinky0]

Apparently we interpreted the games very differently if you think the main theme of the entire trilogy is sacrifice.

[kookie28]

Spectre-00N7 wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

If someone says "artistic integrity" again I WILL punch a baby.

free17 wrote...

artistic integrity

He said shenanigans

Great. It won't stop crying.

[Cody211282]

The theme you mention is only there if you play renegade.

Or never played the first 2 games were I never sacrificed a damn thing.

[Ebannaw1]

Aww, where did op go?

Scared lil ....

[Dreogan]

Promchek wrote...

They've thrown their artistic integrity out of the window, when they decided to put current ending into the game. Making 2games in the row explicetly for mainstream, only to put such wannabe intelectual crap in the end, shows they hqve no artistic integrity to begin with.

The irony of this is they violate their artistic integrity by failing to provide a compelling ending for their audience. The audience of Mass Effect is not the arthouse snobs, it is the mass market.

Modifié par Dreogan, 26 mars 2012 - 06:15 .

[Unit-Alpha]

Cody211282 wrote...

The theme you mention is only there if you play renegade.

Or never played the first 2 games were I never sacrificed a damn thing.

Virmine.

And yes, otherwise, this is true.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

cutegigi wrote...

I personally dont care about artistic integrity. I want the things that I paid for able to make me happy. Doesn't really care how.

You are welcome to your opinion. but I will respectfully disagree.

Thank you.

This.........

Well, that and you can only claim "artistic integrity" if you aren't all the profit driven in the first place, which is neither the case with EA or Bioware.

[Falcon509]

Artistic integrity is one of those bs words, like bipartisan or hate crime. Being bipartisan is impossible because you're already admitting to being split on something in the first place. All hate crimes are just crimes committed against someone different than the one who committed them.

Artistic integrity is a just a term used by Bioware to justify not changing their stance. Its a term for their supporters to cling to. To make detractors sound unrefined. To discredit them as critics.

Its an excuse. They're trying to save face by posing as though they're bring victimized. Any company would do the same. All humans do it.