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[MatronAdena]

translationninja wrote...


Now who is up for organizing a Marauder Shields cake?

After Pax we'll see



Though to make up for him being denied his fix Thomas gets marauder's head all to himself. 

Modifié par MatronAdena, 30 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[Sharkey1337]

I think the Marauder Shields cake is definitely to be saved for the moment of gratitude and thanks to Bioware after they deliver unto us a great ending DLC that wraps up everything perfectly. This is something I want them to actually enjoy and eat in celebration.

[TheOptimist]

Geinen wrote...

TheOptimist wrote...


That's actually not a terrible plan...

I think it is, guys.  Really. We've made our point loud and clear.  To do this just seems so heavy handed at this stage in the game.

Lets wait until PAX and reassess.

Hmmm, you may be right.  Pax is what, a week away? Not opposed to waiting until then to decide on a next move.

[Volus Warlord]

This is the most... underhanded... form of protest I've ever seen. Lol.

[thunderhawk862002]

Maybe it's time to do something to get EA's attention. We can get BioWare's attention all we want but EA is the one who controls what can or can't be said. If we really want something done then it's time to get EA's attention. The customer relations people are aware of our complaints, but the more people who contact EA in some way the better the chances we'll have of getting more information.

[Carnage752]

HOW COULD YOU TURN DOWN CUPCAKES?!?

Only one explanation...
Indoctrination.

[Geinen]

Volus Warlord wrote...

This is the most... underhanded... form of protest I've ever seen. Lol.

Lol if I had a billboard addressed to me across the street from my work?  creepiest thing ever looool.

But considering the cost of it? What possible effect can we get out of it that we havent already communicated?

Its not cost effective at this point.

Modifié par Geinen, 30 mars 2012 - 03:59 .

[XDogSoldier]

http://www.gamezone....akes-to-charity this was a fair and balanced view of events if it wasn't linked.

[LoganKey]

Geinen wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

This is the most... underhanded... form of protest I've ever seen. Lol.

Lol if I had a billboard addressed to me across the street from my work?  creepiest thing ever looool.

But considering the cost of it? What possible effect can we get out of it that we havent already communicated?

Its not cost effective at this point.

I concur. I think we should wait till we hear news from PAX. We should keep the pressure on with conventional means, but no need to expend any resource.

If Bioware announces that we're stuck with these endings.. then we'll have to think long and hard about the mood of the community.

We'll know for sure whether the news is positive based on whether Bioware indicates that we'll be able to alter our ending outcomes. Can we reunite with our crew? our LI? can we have other ways to save Shep? How will the united fleet get back to their worlds, etc.

[John Epler]

Darthlawsuit wrote...

We gave you the 3 choices that you gave us in-game. You had only 3 choices. You then chose to do a fourth option that was not part of the choices presented to you. Yet you gave us those choices in-game and told us those 3 choices were all we needed.

Even Bioware does not like being given a choice of only 3 options and chooses another option when the first 3 are not satisfactory. Why is it that Bioware will force the gamer to choose between one of 3 options that are all the same yet will not do the same themselves? Then tell us those 3 endings were great.

Bioware, you really are a hypocrite. We do a gesture of good will and you toss it aside to manipulate it into a PR stunt. Bioware, you have fallen to the Dark side.

One can certainly take a cynical and jaded view of what happened, but, in the end, it seems that this was the best possible resolution.

You guys made sure your message was heard, and disadvantaged children were given a rare opportunity for a treat. I'm always happy to see people choosing to channel their disappointment into creative and positive endeavours, rather than insults and vitriol. It does your group credit.

[Sealy]

Weird, I want to join the cause not because I want new endings, but because believe a fair majority of you all are epic (I mean cupcakes and charities!), but also I believe you need more sane well spoken people on your side. Not that I am a good speaker, but I am far enough removed from the situation that I wouldn't fall into rage and froth mode.

Seriously though. if I were a member of Bioware I would feel torn between fixing things up for the minority (The upset but polite, sane, optomistic bunch) and not doing a damn thing to stick it to the majority (upset, rabid, annoying, threatning, buttheads.) Seriously everytime I see one of their posts I get a little thrill out of watching them suffer, then I feel bad cause I know friends who are acting like adults are suffering too. I am rooting for most of you though. You're accomplishing amazing things, never seen people pull together this way. (Well not on the internet)  You may not get what you want, but some of you should be extremely proud of your efforts.  

Modifié par Fleshdress, 30 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[LoganKey]

John Epler wrote...

Darthlawsuit wrote...

We gave you the 3 choices that you gave us in-game. You had only 3 choices. You then chose to do a fourth option that was not part of the choices presented to you. Yet you gave us those choices in-game and told us those 3 choices were all we needed.

Even Bioware does not like being given a choice of only 3 options and chooses another option when the first 3 are not satisfactory. Why is it that Bioware will force the gamer to choose between one of 3 options that are all the same yet will not do the same themselves? Then tell us those 3 endings were great.

Bioware, you really are a hypocrite. We do a gesture of good will and you toss it aside to manipulate it into a PR stunt. Bioware, you have fallen to the Dark side.

One can certainly take a cynical and jaded view of what happened, but, in the end, it seems that this was the best possible resolution.

You guys made sure your message was heard, and disadvantaged children were given a rare opportunity for a treat. I'm always happy to see people choosing to channel their disappointment into creative and positive endeavours, rather than insults and vitriol. It does your group credit.

I agree. Also keep in mind guys, Shadow Wrought talked with some of the employees... most of the devs are on vacation right now after pulling 16+ hour workshifts prior to launch. Even if Bioware had kept the cupcakes, there's no way they could eat them all without them going stale (or throwing the remaining employees into a sugar induced coma).

We got our message across. If Bioware truly acts on our feedback and gives us the sort of ending options that we're hoping for.. we can always send them a Marauder Shields cake.. I'm sure they'd eat that one (and Thomas Abrams would get the head all to himself )

[XDogSoldier]

John Epler wrote...

Darthlawsuit wrote...

We gave you the 3 choices that you gave us in-game. You had only 3 choices. You then chose to do a fourth option that was not part of the choices presented to you. Yet you gave us those choices in-game and told us those 3 choices were all we needed.

Even Bioware does not like being given a choice of only 3 options and chooses another option when the first 3 are not satisfactory. Why is it that Bioware will force the gamer to choose between one of 3 options that are all the same yet will not do the same themselves? Then tell us those 3 endings were great.

Bioware, you really are a hypocrite. We do a gesture of good will and you toss it aside to manipulate it into a PR stunt. Bioware, you have fallen to the Dark side.

One can certainly take a cynical and jaded view of what happened, but, in the end, it seems that this was the best possible resolution.

You guys made sure your message was heard, and disadvantaged children were given a rare opportunity for a treat. I'm always happy to see people choosing to channel their disappointment into creative and positive endeavours, rather than insults and vitriol. It does your group credit.

Thank you for noticing our majority not the minority. 

[Jonathan Sud]

I just read the last 20 pages of this thread. Those of you who are actually against Bioware giving the cupcakes to charity deserve to get boned by a vorcha and be diagnosed with the scale itch.

[Vesji]

Hey John! Just... wanted to say hello.
Aehm, how are you doing after that scotch last night?

Modifié par Vesji, 30 mars 2012 - 04:15 .

[MatronAdena]

LoganKey wrote...

(and Thomas Abrams would get the head all to himself )

yay I suggested that,  I'm helping!

/bad zoidberg immitation

[Shadow Wrought]

Hmmm... May not be able to get it on youtube. THe pvr download is encrypted and i have no idea how to make it work. So unless someone grabs it from the global site doesnt look like youtube will have it...

[John Epler]

Vesji wrote...

Hey John! Just... wanted to say hello.
Aehm, how are you doing after that scotch last night?

Quite well. Scotch is something that should never be drank in sufficient quantities to cause a hangover, if you ask me.

[Sealy]

John Epler wrote...

Vesji wrote...

Hey John! Just... wanted to say hello.
Aehm, how are you doing after that scotch last night?

Quite well. Scotch is something that should never be drank in sufficient quantities to cause a hangover, if you ask me.

Thats what tequilas for.

[Vesji]

John Epler wrote...

Vesji wrote...
...

Quite well. Scotch is something that should never be drank in sufficient quantities to cause a hangover, if you ask me.

I guess, that if you weren't right, we would have an influx of intoxicated people around the world. (That's a bad thing) 

I have a question in the back of my head, though!

Do you brush your teeth twice per day? I mean, in the morning and in the evening. And right afterwords, use that water against plaque thing. Have any idea if they work? 

[Naltair]

BSN did good, you did good.

[Ozai75]

Fleshdress wrote...

John Epler wrote...

Hey John! Just... wanted to say hello.
Aehm, how are you doing after that scotch last night?

Quite well. Scotch is something that should never be drank in sufficient quantities to cause a hangover, if you ask me.

John, if you ever get a chance to go to Edinburgh Scotland, I highly recomend the Scotch tour there.  Fascinating stuff, you get a free shot and they have all kinds of REALLY expensive sorts of scotch there.

[daecath]

daecath wrote...

The Last Guardian wrote...

daecath wrote...

I agree about the pestering part. They've said they're going to make an announcement in April, do we constantly have to belabor this point day after day? I think they get it by now. Let's let them have the time to figure out what they want to do. They might have the most brilliant thing ever in the works, but if we keep pestering them, they might lose motivation.

That said, I actually like the idea of cupcakes. Only don't make them all the same. Do something nice for them not because we want something, not to try and make a not-so-subtle point, but simply because we want them to know that, despite our issues with how ME3 ended, we really do appreciate all the hours of entertainment that they've given us.

It's meant to be light hearted. 
 
 I think we all understand that they get our dilema (hopefully). This is more of "here's hoping you still remember our dilema X weeks after" in a not so "burn bioware burn!" sort of way.

Plus it's cupcakes, and who the does not like cupcakes? 

I get that it's meant to be light-hearted, but no matter how nicely you ask, no matter how light hearted you are when asking, it gets tiring after a while hearing the same thing over and over. Especially since it's not "X weeks after", it's "hope you still remember our dilema today, even though we've been posting about it every day since the game came out".

Like I said, I really like the cupcake idea, I just don't think they should have strings attached. If we're going to do something positive, let's make it completely positive. Go ahead and include a note that says something to the effect that we want them to know that despite this one issue, we really love their work and appreciate what they've given us. That still says yes, we're still here, yes we still have issues with the ending, but it turns it into a positive message that we appreciate everything else about these games enough to go out of our way to thank them.

I know if it were me, and people were criticizing something that I'd worked hard on, I'd be really bummed right now. A (in my case gluten free) cupcake, and a heartfelt note of appreciation would go a long way towards lifitng my spirits.

"The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity
and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were
creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion,
we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the
context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3
team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass
the feedback to the team. "

I'm glad that it turned out ok, but it could have been so much better. I don't want to make it an "us vs. them" thing, but if we were keeping score, I'd have to give this point to Bioware. We use cupcakes to belabor the same point that we've been making, they turn it into a charitable gesture to some needy kids.

[Visii]

John Epler wrote...

And this would be an example of how not to post.

If I make a few outrageous posts, will you make an appearance on the Thane thread?

[Darthlawsuit]

LoganKey wrote...

John Epler wrote...

Darthlawsuit wrote...

We gave you the 3 choices that you gave us in-game. You had only 3 choices. You then chose to do a fourth option that was not part of the choices presented to you. Yet you gave us those choices in-game and told us those 3 choices were all we needed.

Even Bioware does not like being given a choice of only 3 options and chooses another option when the first 3 are not satisfactory. Why is it that Bioware will force the gamer to choose between one of 3 options that are all the same yet will not do the same themselves? Then tell us those 3 endings were great.

Bioware, you really are a hypocrite. We do a gesture of good will and you toss it aside to manipulate it into a PR stunt. Bioware, you have fallen to the Dark side.

One can certainly take a cynical and jaded view of what happened, but, in the end, it seems that this was the best possible resolution.

You guys made sure your message was heard, and disadvantaged children were given a rare opportunity for a treat. I'm always happy to see people choosing to channel their disappointment into creative and positive endeavours, rather than insults and vitriol. It does your group credit.

I agree. Also keep in mind guys, Shadow Wrought talked with some of the employees... most of the devs are on vacation right now after pulling 16+ hour workshifts prior to launch. Even if Bioware had kept the cupcakes, there's no way they could eat them all without them going stale (or throwing the remaining employees into a sugar induced coma).

We got our message across. If Bioware truly acts on our feedback and gives us the sort of ending options that we're hoping for.. we can always send them a Marauder Shields cake.. I'm sure they'd eat that one (and Thomas Abrams would get the head all to himself )

They don't have to eat them all. Just eat as many as they desired and donate the rest. I know some of Bioware's people were looking forward to the cupcakes. To donate them all is a giant middle finger to us from their PR guys.

The best possible decision would have been to take as many as you guys wanted and donated the rest. Everyone would have won. Instead you let some PR guy tell you that this is the best thing you could have done. It wasn't and isn't.