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[ticklefist]

Zahlen sind aussagekräftiger, wenn sie wie Nahrung zu suchen.

[MOELANDER]

ticklefist wrote...

Zahlen sind aussagekräftiger, wenn sie wie Nahrung zu suchen.

Sorry lost in Translation, what did you want to say? Ich verstehe dich nämlich nicht.

[Luiginius]

The question of minority/majority doesn't lead to any constructive discussion with current data. I'd settle with the number of dissatisfied people being significant. We already know that it is by having the CEO address the situation. You don't see that happening if the ****storm isn't big enough.

[Fhear]

ROFL - non-germans are speaking german-jibberish :-P
Nice try, mates! ;-)

Yes - the poll is indeed representative for most of the players. I ask myself - WHY we should be the minority? If these polls were online on the BSN-site - then: okay. But there are many other polls on general gaming sites. Everybody could vote there...

P.S.: My english is not very good, also ^^

[CosmicWonderer]

Welcome to join the fight my German comrades and HOLD THE LINE!

P.S.: Please don't invade Canada Moelander, I'm a Canadian and I love my homeland very much, however you can invade Quebec, just kidding

[likta_]

Megachaz wrote...

blacqout wrote...

There are a lot of unacounted for players in your chart.

What's funny is that you're more than willing to draw your own conclusions from limited data when deciding the size of your movement, but you can't do the same thing to make sense of a thought provoking ending.

Hilarious.

If you like drawing conclusions from limited data, why did you even need an ending at all?  The game could have cut to black the second we make our final choice.  Then we would have been able to speculate even more!  How thought provoking!

No.

The genophage was thought provoking.  Is biological warfare and genocide ever justified?  The Geth origin story was thought provoking.  If an artificial construct gains self-awareness and true intelligence, is it equal to organic life?  Cerberus and The Illusive Man.  Do the ends justify the means?  What if the means are mass murder?  At what point do you become the enemy you are fighting?

Having to try to guess at what really happened because the narrative was so unclear is frustrating, not thought provoking.

So much this!

[karlchen]

MOELANDER... auch den Ending-Poll auf Gamestar gesehen? Das Ergebnis spricht auch für sich.. hab den Link auf Seite 1 dieses Threads gepostet...

Kann's auch nicht verstehen. Für TV-Quoten reichen 2000 Leute um's auf 82 Mio. Menschen hoch zu rechenen. Nur hier soll's nicht representativ sein?!


english:
I told Moelander about another poll and I ask me some questions about statistics.
2000 people are enough for doing statistcs about TV for the whole 82 Mio. of German citizens... so even there are some fake votes... it's more than enough for representative views...

[KingKhan03]

Victories everywhere.

[sargon1986]

20% think it was a work of art... are you kidding me! Bad Germany, BAD! 

[count_4]

karlchen wrote...

@MOELANDER:
da ist noch ein Poll der genauso interssant ist... magst übersetzen?!

http://www.gamestar....id=842&pk=13537

english:
another interesting Poll by gamestar... maybe MOELANDER want's to translate

Not the OP here but I took the liberty to do a quick translation of the second poll(which came before the first one actually, date's 2012/03/14).

Modifié par count_4, 26 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[MOELANDER]

Oh you'rs looke so much nicer. I edited the OP. Mind if I use your pic though count?

[Deschi]

MOELANDER wrote...

ticklefist wrote...

Zahlen sind aussagekräftiger, wenn sie wie Nahrung zu suchen.

Sorry lost in Translation, what did you want to say? Ich verstehe dich nämlich nicht.

This is some kind of pun... literally translated something like:
"Numbers (statistics) are more convincing, when you are foraging them"

Edit: still not sure if i got it right because the grammar in the german original sentence is a bit twisted

Modifié par Deschi, 26 mars 2012 - 08:41 .

[count_4]

MOELANDER wrote...

Oh you'rs looke so much nicer. I edited the OP. Mind if I use your pic though count?

Not at all. 

[MOELANDER]

Deschi wrote...

This is some kind of pun... literally translated something like:
"Numbers (statistics) are more convincing, when they are foraging."

Pfhahaha! The Translation makes it hilarious!

Okay I kalmed ze Kaiser down, but he's still steaming. He says he will take Edmonton no matter what and make it his own private Soccer field.

What shall I tell ze Kaiser?

[MakeMineMako]

I just love Germany.

Great cars, bad ass police, great beer, and great gamers. Gotta love them.

[MOELANDER]

MakeMineMako wrote...


I just love Germany.

Great cars, bad ass police, great beer, and great gamers. Gotta love them.

And to not forget my Amerikanischer Freund: Great gunsmiths! Heckler & Koch, Walther, Mauser...

And ze Kaiser! 

Lol!

[karlchen]

sargon1986 wrote...

20% think it was a work of art... are you kidding me! Bad Germany, BAD! 

The question of Art is a big one in this whole discussion. There were a lot of discussion in gemany's biggest ME-Forums about this.

Some Link (in German language):
http://forum.worldof...BSN-samt-Spende

It begins about page 3 or 4 till the end.

My english is very limited. But I try a small conclusion.

There are a lot of views on this. And there are a lot of arguments why ME3 is no Art but more some excellent game (except the endig ;-)  ) with a very "artistic expression".

There is a lot of artistic and creative energy needed to make such a game in no doubt!

But in a Context of Art there are to many PR-Decisions, Managers, Customer Surveys,  Thought's of profit (as an example: why they did more and more Action into ME???!!!) etc. etc. involved. It's much more business than Art.
So we should calm down on this and look at the reality. It's a meltdown of Artistic Work and the Whish (and in some Amount of Need too - you have to pay your team!!) of making profit. And the profit-Part is a lot of times bigger then the artistic part.

This seems to be the conclusion of a lot of discussions made about "Art"...

[Deschi]

MakeMineMako wrote...


I just love Germany.

Great cars, bad ass police, great beer, and great gamers. Gotta love them.

Actually the normal patroling police has the reputation to be generally quite decent here But I am sure they would feel flattered being calles "badass"

[Fail_Inc]

Well it's obvious you germans don't know art!

[Aetius5]

You would have to be a dunkopf to enjoy the current endings.

[CosmicWonderer]

Give the Germans enough technical knowledge and resources, they can build mass relays and Citadels by the hundreds.

Badass German cops you say? call in the GSG9!

Hmmm, is that the new color scheme for the German police car, silver and blue stripes? I was travelling in Poland a while ago, the police cars in some major cities are also in silver and blue stripes color.

[zigamortis]

Actualy people who dislike the endings are the majority for every one fan that speaks up 26 dont.

[Gernbuster]

Sometimes the creation needs to get saved, if the creator goes to far.
Even if it s art, or synthetic life.

[Spectre-00N7]

I feel sorry for Germany

[Militarized]

Kilshrek wrote...

I think you're reaching there blacqout. It's called extrapolating, you can do it very easily when you have sufficient numbers.

Abstract things like ideas don't extrapolate very well.

Solid figures, just draw a line(of best fit).

Next funny argument, please.

This. We use a much smaller pool of people for our national elections, I think that gives a good indication for how people feel.