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[Dridengx]

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

[Seryndras]

sergio71785 wrote...

Well, on the bright side, at least the ending doesn't cause cancer.

Long term studies have yet to prove that...

[blunznsepp]

Seryndras wrote...

Nostradamoose wrote...

I'm a jelly-filled donut.

Mmmh... JFK Doughnuts....

To be honest, he didn't really say that, though. He should have said "Ich bin ein Krapfen!"... that would have been great...

boy I should become a speech writer for politicians who visit Germany... "Ich bin ein Frankfurter Würstchen!"... I'd be great at that.

Ah well, back to building Panzer divisions on order to PLEAZE ZE KAISER!

not sure if they use the word krapfen in germany... in austria we do :]

[Seryndras]

Dridengx wrote...

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

Well, according to VGCharts, these are the sales figures for ME3 in Germany:






10,738
61,873
2

So, 61k after two weeks. If that is truem than one third of the players took that poll....

[Seryndras]

blunznsepp wrote...

not sure if they use the word krapfen in germany... in austria we do :]

Well, I'm bavarian, so we use Krapfen as well... but I think Berliners use something entirely different though... no idea to be honest!

[MOELANDER]

Dridengx wrote...

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

Do you hear that hum? Is that just me?

[blunznsepp]

ah well, austrians and bavarians have always been and will always be brothers

Modifié par blunznsepp, 26 mars 2012 - 12:29 .

[TheKillerAngel]

Dridengx wrote...

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

I think that if the ending was magnificent and spectacular we would see much more praise than outrage.

Seryndras wrote...

Well, according to VGCharts, these are the sales figures for ME3 in Germany:






10,738
61,873
2

So, 61k after two weeks. If that is truem than one third of the players took that poll....

 

Also, that.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 26 mars 2012 - 12:29 .

[Seryndras]

blunznsepp wrote...

ah well, austrians and bavarians have been and will always be brothers

So is, da samma freind! Pack mas o, hoin ma uns Mass Effect z'ruck!

(crude, bavarian dialect, sorry about that...)

[blunznsepp]

ozopft is lol... just imagine shepard with a bavarian accent. epic

[Zkyire]

blacqout wrote...

There are a lot of unacounted for players in your chart.

What's funny is that you're more than willing to draw your own conclusions from limited data when deciding the size of your movement, but you can't do the same thing to make sense of a thought provoking ending.

Hilarious.

Most "official" polls and surveys only count a few hundred to a few thousand people and use that sample to reflect all of society.

Our polls have tens of thousands. From multiple countries.

[Deschi]

Seryndras wrote...

blunznsepp wrote...

ah well, austrians and bavarians have been and will always be brothers

So is, da samma freind! Pack mas o, hoin ma uns Mass Effect z'ruck!

(crude, bavarian dialect, sorry about that...)

even as a guy from northern germany I think it sounds just brilliant!

[MOELANDER]

blunznsepp wrote...

ozopft is lol... just imagine shepard with a bavarian accent. epic

Dös wära Modd, deng i sofordd runnerlod'n würd! Dongge socht der Frongge, oba ned fers Ende vo Mass Effegd drei!

Franconian dialect from the Bavarian north for:

That would be a mod I would download immediately! Thanks says the Franconian, but not for the ending of Mass Effect 3!

[Namz89]

 Germany will not submit to Bioware's current way of dealing with customers and fans.

Promising and advertising facts, that turned out to be (mostly) lies. Claiming to be "listening" to their fans, which turned out to be another mockery, resulting in a "clarity" and "closure" DLC coming up on April.

We will keep fighting, and we will hold the line!

[Gernbuster]

Dridengx wrote...

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

These sort of statments are much more satisfying then any polls ^^
If the opposition is stating themselves as anonymous offending bullies, we already won.
Except they won't enter the next step of reasoning in the next few weeks. We fight with words and they may answer some more ....primitive.

[_NF_Von_Lipwig]

Dridengx wrote...

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

It's called "sample size", mate. When statistics people conduct opinion polls to see how elections will turn out, they tend to use about a thousand or two thousand people to represent millions. And this usually turns out quite accurate as well.

While most polls will likely be kind of unbalanced due to, indeed, enraged people being more likely to take to the internet than satisfied people, the negative response is still overwhelming. I doubt that the 90% of people being ant-ending won't hold up when you take the entire customer-base, but the percentage of people who dislike the ending will still be rather big.

Even if it's 'just' 10-15%, if I were a developer/publisher I would scratch my head and wonder how I can solve this problem. It's still a substantial amount of sales that may not be there when you try to sell DLC or a new game.

[Gernbuster]

Namz89 wrote...

 Germany will not submit to Bioware's current way of dealing with customers and fans.

Promising and advertising facts, that turned out to be (mostly) lies. Claiming to be "listening" to their fans, which turned out to be another mockery, resulting in a "clarity" and "closure" DLC coming up on April.

We will keep fighting, and we will hold the line!

/sign

[Iwillbeback]

Everyone around the galaxy needs to hold the line.

[Kurokenshi]

Nachtdämmerung wrote...

Kurokenshi wrote...

The best that ever happened with the ending is that it got a major part of the community to work together!

Hold the line

"You know, one good thing about the Ending is how it brings people together" - Alistair

Holding the line

Fixed it!

lol Alistair quote my favorite DA:O character after Shale

[nupfi]

This poll is not from Germany alone... I voted there too and am from Austria. ^^

[Tracido]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

I think that if the ending was magnificent and spectacular we would see much more praise than outrage.

Seryndras wrote...

Well, according to VGCharts, these are the sales figures for ME3 in Germany:






10,738
61,873
2

So, 61k after two weeks. If that is truem than one third of the players took that poll....

 

Also, that.

Someone want to explain to me how this so called fan (*cough* pure hypocritical troll) user you folks are responding to here is not permabanned?

To think how long I have not even bothered talking from the namecalling likes of these (implications are the very same as namecalling, don't sugar coat it, thanks) and you guys just try to reason with him, her, or it.  I'm just merely confused how these updated rules work around here?

Modifié par Tracido, 26 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[blunznsepp]

nupfi wrote...

This poll is not from Germany alone... I voted there too and am from Austria. ^^

+1 here

[Tracido]

blunznsepp wrote...

nupfi wrote...

This poll is not from Germany alone... I voted there too and am from Austria. ^^

+1 here

Well, it's not surprising.  However, I will say interesting.  After reading the depth of the poll in question and the fact I have plenty of friends who would never waste time on forums even speaking about this who are very much, feeling the very same way.

[MOELANDER]

Tracido wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

a poll of 23k germans and whiners win by 72%?  That's worse than America. These 'polls' everyone keeps reffering to are not helping your 'cause' sure the percentage is high, but the poll voters are low. too low to make a difference.

23k gamers to represent a country? to represent sales? that's ****** poor low.

23k plus Retake's 52,000 (global) (assuming no germans are part of Retake)  = 75,000 whiners

75,000 whiners pretending to be the majority of the gamers who purchased Mass Effect 3. Pretending to represent 91% of the sales.

Just because you win polls you passed around doesn't mean anything. Numbers do. truth is people who enjoy games don't search around the internet for polls and forums to whine or talk about it. haters do, trolls do, whiners do. You guys have been finding articles, websites, reviews, and polls from websites never heard of like gamefront... forbes what gamer actually reads that crap? lol. Angry Joe? this is a random nobody who got destroyed by Geoff Keightly suddenly he's your hero.

I think all the space magic hold the line group needs an IQ test, color me impressed if they score higher than 80.

I think that if the ending was magnificent and spectacular we would see much more praise than outrage.

Seryndras wrote...

Well, according to VGCharts, these are the sales figures for ME3 in Germany:






10,738
61,873
2

So, 61k after two weeks. If that is truem than one third of the players took that poll....

 

Also, that.

Someone want to explain to me how this so called fan (*cough* pure hypocritical troll) user you folks are responding to here is not permabanned?

To think how long I have not even bothered talking from the namecalling likes of these (implications are the very same as namecalling, don't sugar coat it, thanks) and you guys just try to reason with him, her, or it.  I'm just merely confused how these updated rules work around here?

I'll took some advice from my good friend Mr. Vega regarding Dridengx

"You hear that hum? Is that just me?"

[Tleining]

The Problem with the Poll is, that you don't know who voted. The two biggest groups (together 91,7%) are in the "it should be changed if the fans want it" and "it shouldn't be changed because it's Biowares artistic vision" pile. The remaining 8,3% are in the "Yes, i hated the ending" and "no, i liked the ending" groups.

So based on that, one could argue that 91,7% of the people who voted there haven't played the game.

The other interesting thing, the Poll specifically mentions "The ending", so apparently wether people liked it or not, the legend of the 16 endings has been destroyed.