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[weltraumhamster89]

I'm German as well and hate the current ending (as long as it's not indoc theory, then I would apologise personally to Bioware).

Bleibt dran! Hold the line!

[Comguard2]

23.000 for a single is pretty much.

If ME3 shipped 3,5 Million units worldwide, how many do you think went to Germany? 23.000 is a pretty big number in this context.

Also considering that Gamestar is a PC-Gaming Website usually not frequented by console-players, and not the largest german gaming-review page at all.

[the_secondhammer]

I am disappointed, too and from Germany.

[Statulos]

I hope you guys get an extra DLC with Flektarn camo for Shepard. Because I think that's as much as we will get.

[ZLurps]

Comguard2 wrote...

23.000 for a single is pretty much.

If ME3 shipped 3,5 Million units worldwide, how many do you think went to Germany? 23.000 is a pretty big number in this context.

Also considering that Gamestar is a PC-Gaming Website usually not frequented by console-players, and not the largest german gaming-review page at all.

I guess it's about 1/3 or copies sold in Germany. Don't know about Austria, Switzerland and Belgium (more or less German speaking countries).

[Ossborn76]

[RüdigerHoffmann] Ja halloooooo, erstmaaaal, Ich weis gar nicht ob sie es wußten, aaaaaber auch in Deutschland gibt es gaaanz viele Leute, die die Enden furchtbar schlecht finden! [/RüdigerHoffmann]

Well, hellooooo everybodyyyyy, I don´t know if you already kew, buuuuut even in Germany there are maaaany people, who think the endings are terrible!

(Rüdiger Hoffmann is a german comedian, known for speaking very slow and using very long sentences)

As this already is page 8, I´m sure other fellow germans already gave you the impression, that we mostly dislike the endings

Modifié par Ossborn76, 26 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[KEIOS]

In the end it doesn't really matter how accurate those stats are. Those numbers prove, that there are a lot of people who do not like the ending. This group is large enough to be heard. Large enough, that even unrelated medias are covering the story and the reputation of the game is taking damage. I spoke with a friend who was slightly interested in Mass Effect, but did not buy it yet, since what he heard was the large amount of criticism against the ending.

Sure we can not really say, what the silent majority of all players think, but we can say, that the voice of those who do want to critisize are coherent in their demand and large enough to have impact.

[darkshadow136]

shengar wrote...

This is another reason why I like Germany

Agreed. This and the fact I have a friend that lives in Cologne Germany.

[bleachorange]

blacqout wrote...

There are a lot of unacounted for players in your chart.

What's funny is that you're more than willing to draw your own conclusions from limited data when deciding the size of your movement, but you can't do the same thing to make sense of a thought provoking ending.

Hilarious.

You simply have no understanding of how polls work. you don't need to ask every single person who played me3 if they liked the endings - if a significant amount (1,000 people) answer, then the results are statistically valid, with a margin of error within 5%. this is proven fact.

ME3 is no Dune, no Ender's Game, no Inception. It's not that kind of story - it has themes, yes, but it's not that kind of story, to provoke my thoughts at the ending. It's an EPIC, plain and simple, and if it diverts from that type of story at the 11th hour, the reaction is understandable - simply put, there is no resolution, no falling action, no tying of loose ends.

It goes straight from climax into...left field.

Modifié par bleachorange, 27 mars 2012 - 01:27 .

[bleachorange]

darkshadow136 wrote...

shengar wrote...

This is another reason why I like Germany

Agreed. This and the fact I have a friend that lives in Cologne Germany.

This and the fact that I have a German relative, and he's pretty d*mn cool.

[MOELANDER]

Woke up just now. It's 3:36 here in Germany and I feel as pissed as ze Kaiser! Back to sleep after checking the thread. Awesome guys! Keep being civil!

Moelanderhmblnkmlmbb chrrrrr....chrrrrr... chrrrrr....

[MOELANDER]

Mwhoa. Guten Morgen BioWare Social Network.

[Quietness]

MOELANDER wrote...

Mwhoa. Guten Morgen BioWare Social Network.

1:35am....guten nacht .. (at least could remember this i should have taken more german/paid more attention in class.)

[Mesmurae]

blacqout wrote...

There are a lot of unacounted for players in your chart.

What's funny is that you're more than willing to draw your own conclusions from limited data when deciding the size of your movement, but you can't do the same thing to make sense of a thought provoking ending.

Hilarious.

Could you say that again?

Your voice became muffled when nonsense starting spewing from your mouth.

Modifié par Mesmurae, 27 mars 2012 - 07:52 .

[MOELANDER]

Mesmurae wrote...

blacqout wrote...

There are a lot of unacounted for players in your chart.

What's funny is that you're more than willing to draw your own conclusions from limited data when deciding the size of your movement, but you can't do the same thing to make sense of a thought provoking ending.

Hilarious.

Could you say that again?

You're voice became muffled when nonsense starting spewing from your mouth.

Nonono! You're doing it wrong! You must do it like Mr. Vega:

"You hear that hum? Is that just me?"

[karlchen]

MOELANDER wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

@Moelander:
You're 94 years out of touch.

Well it's either the Kaiser people associate or *shudder* that austrian guy Adolf.

So which one would you rather take as a Mock-Mascot?

BTW isn't the Kaiser Reaper just awesome? 

Nimm doch die Preußen als Ganzes
Die hamm bei Waterloo mit gemacht...

english:
i suggested he should take the prussians as a whole... they fought on waterloo

[Ziggeh]

bleachorange wrote...

You simply have no understanding of how polls work. you don't need to ask every single person who played me3 if they liked the endings

This is true.

bleachorange wrote...

- if a significant amount (1,000 people) answer, then the results are statistically valid, with a margin of error within 5%. this is proven fact.

This is not.

Unless you account for bias (which you cannot in an internet poll) it is not a valid representation of a larger population.

(As an aside, I’m not sure where the number comes from, it crops up, as does 200 as the magic number of participants, it really just depends on what you accept as margins)

KEIOS wrote...

In the end it doesn't really matter how accurate those stats are. Those numbers prove, that there are a lot of people who do not like the ending.

Accuracy is always important or we simply misrepresent the argument. Now, I’d be a little concerned with stating they definitely show high numbers without seeing the measures they use to stop repeat voting, but roughly speaking and collectively I think they do show that we’re talking about lots of people. Which I agree is the point.  

Modifié par Ziggeh, 27 mars 2012 - 09:56 .

[lyssalu]

blacqout wrote...

a thought provoking ending

blacqout wrote...

Hilarious.

[Tony208]

blacqout wrote...

There are a lot of unacounted for players in your chart.

What's funny is that you're more than willing to draw your own conclusions from limited data when deciding the size of your movement, but you can't do the same thing to make sense of a thought provoking ending.

Hilarious.

You've never heard of statistics have you?

The only thought about the ending was about how it could be so bad. Maybe there's some deeper meaning? Nope, just reaching, it's horrible.

Keep telling yourself that more people like the ending. Just check out the forums here. You don't even need a poll to figure that one out.

[MOELANDER]

Everyone else agree, that the BSN is actually drawing all those who don't like the ending, simply because it's the official forum and they are trying to find answers? The way all those "What was that?" threads popped up here makes me think that. On other forums you won't find answers so easily.

So thats why BSN seems to be almost the only board on the Web with a majority of ending haters, though I have seen many posts on Penny Arcade and on german boards as well. Also there seems to be (or was, didn't check for days) a really large Anti-Ending crowd on Escapist.

[Tony208]

I've never seen a more lopsided forum. After a few days, you can name all of the pro ending posters.

[Petrikles]

Wir Deutsche sollten uns vielleicht ganz besonders Gedanken darüber machen, wie toll wir ein Ende finden, das derart krasse rassistische Untertöne hat bzw. drei ausschließlich rassistisch geprägte "Endlösungen" anbietet. Ernsthaft, das ist nicht mehr witzig.

[MOELANDER]

Kailord wrote...

Wir Deutsche sollten uns vielleicht ganz besonders Gedanken darüber machen, wie toll wir ein Ende finden, das derart krasse rassistische Untertöne hat bzw. drei ausschließlich rassistisch geprägte "Endlösungen" anbietet. Ernsthaft, das ist nicht mehr witzig.

Whoa! Didn't even think of it that way! We need to make a video about it! Seriously would tremendously raise the pressure!

[Peete]

MOELANDER wrote...

Oh I pulled my thoughts from the ending. I turned them around and I didn't like them.

I'm just a customer who feels he's been cheated. If BioWare would have been a german company I would have gone to court. Along with many friends of mine. False Advertising isn't well received over here.

It would never have made it halfway through the European bureocracy...

That said  it's excellent that we're in the right side of public opinion.