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[Great_Horn]

Well, that’s actually the problem. It seems, that the developing team wants to appeal to the RPG veterans and also to new gamers, who are fond of a cinematic, more actiondriven game, with a voiced PC.

[BanksHector]

Some people want that, but others do not. I for one do not want them to go back to their roots.I find the games to be getting better(other then DA2 Act3).

[Great_Horn]

I´m not sure if this going back to the roots approach, will definitely end into and disaster. There is this particular rumor about Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition, which I believe some (including myself) find interesting.

[Kenthen]

Great_Horn wrote...

I´m not sure if this going back to the roots approach, will definitely end into and disaster. There is this particular rumor about Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition, which I believe some (including myself) find interesting.

What. This?
http://www.baldursga...ion-for-ipad-3/

Man, who cares. Baldur's Gate is plenty enhanced as it is with Tutu. And I mean, I know that says iPad but I'm assuming they'll release it for the PC as well but...why? We already have it.

[Great_Horn]

If you already have some sales numbers go ahead. Until then, we will see how it turns out.

[Knight of Dane]

Hm, i wouldn't have minded more closure to Hawke's story before moving on, but i can live without.

[Great_Horn]

Skyrim's Todd Howard On What Makes A Success?

http://www.gameinfor...-interview.aspx

Game Informer: As far as sales goes, Skyrim is the best-selling game in Bethesda history. Is there something about the game from a design standpoint that made it more popular and mainstream? The Elder Scrolls series has been typically thought of as very hardcore RPGs.

Todd Howard: The short answer is "I don’t know." I can give you my guess, which is people underestimate how many core gamers there are; people who want a lot of depth and will play a game for a long time. There are a lot of them. If you give them something unique and good, you don’t have to dumb it down.

There are things we changed to make the game better, but not to appeal to a wider audience. I think we always benefited in Elder Scrolls early on, the fact that it is first-person and kind of walks this action line sometimes. We’ve always benefited from that. Even our own lofty expectations for how the game would be received or sell, it’s way, way beyond that.

I don’t have a way of explaining it.

Modifié par Great_Horn, 26 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Meris]

Kenthen wrote...

Great_Horn wrote...

I´m not sure if this going back to the roots approach, will definitely end into and disaster. There is this particular rumor about Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition, which I believe some (including myself) find interesting.

What. This?
http://www.baldursga...ion-for-ipad-3/

Man, who cares. Baldur's Gate is plenty enhanced as it is with Tutu. And I mean, I know that says iPad but I'm assuming they'll release it for the PC as well but...why? We already have it.

For one they can do more than TuTu or BG:T did. For another, they can add their own content without breaking mods - and if there's one thing Baldur's Gate's fans like is more content. For a third, the more things are made baseline, the less massive need be your megamod installation and stable it becomes. And for a fourth reason to care: this Infinity Engine revival, together with Wasteland 2, show that our gaming niche isn't dead nor deserves neglect.

[The Confidence-Man]

Maybe if DA3 bombs badly enough they'll get the hint. Of course Mike Laidlaw has said in interviews that they aren't doing a 180 again, so come hell or high water this is the direction they're going in.

[David Gaider]

Tesclo wrote...

http://www.shacknews...r-opportunities

This is a complete joke. No we obviously do not want a Dragon Age 2 expansion. To be honest, I don't even think many would buy DLC. We do NOT want more of the same. Bioware, we wan't the "spiritual successor" to Baulder's Gate. It's that simple. We want what was promised to us in Dragon Age: Origins. This is so simple to grasp, yet you refuse to give the paying customers what they want. Give us back Origins. You have your FPS in Mass Effect. This series was supposed to be for us. And there IS a market for it. People still play RPGs.

I can't believe I actually have to even write this. Go back to your roots Bioware.

To be clear:

1) DA2 DLC sold quite well, thank you. I'm not at liberty to give out specifics, but it sold well enough that discontinuing work on it was a difficult choice-- and one made so that we could spend the kind of effort on the next big project that we thought it deserved. If someone wishes to spin it to suit their own agenda, so be it. I can't convince you otherwise, after all.

2) Be careful when you say "what we want". There are clearly a large number of people who want the same as what you want, but you do not speak for all fans-- in general or even here on these forums. Dragon Age fans cover a wide spectrum of opinions on almost every topic, as is pretty obvious in almost any discussion on a given issue. There's nothing wrong with holding those different opinions, and they're plenty valid without needing to be further validated by trying to represent them as universal.

3) I'm a big fan of Baldur's Gate, as I am of Origins (obviously, having worked on them both). While I can't say what we're specifically doing with the future of Dragon Age, and wouldn't want to until we can actually show it, I think it'll please many fans-- and also ****** off many others. That's inevitable at this point, and no matter what we do there will no doubt be many people clamoring as to how obvious it should be that their direction is the one we should take.

Regardless, we'll move forward... and, once you get a chance to see what we're working on, you can decide for yourself whether the next project sticks close enough to our "roots" to interest you. Hopefully it will... and, if not, thanks for being such a passionate fan.

Modifié par David Gaider, 26 mars 2012 - 02:51 .

[Meris]

David Gaider wrote...

Regardless, we'll move forward...

As I see it '... and also side-ways in many respects'. Further away from being the spiritual successor of Baldur's Gate.

Modifié par Meris, 26 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[Pzykozis]

Strange, Tesclo that's clearly the way forward and yet to me you're walking backwards...

[LZA_FUNK]

 This is what I wanted to know,

BIOware, if the other expansions were suceesful to Dragon Age 2, then why did you all cancel the latest expansion to Dragon Age 2? Me was well as other were looking foward to the new expansion, I myself would like a nice closure to the Hawke story. PERSONALLY I WISH THEY NEVER LISTEN TO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT!! 


I'm sure Baulder's gate was a good game back in it's day, I never played it, and don't care about it...
I do care about the Dragon Age series, I think we as gamers are being sold short on Dragon Age 2 
because a few people never heard of Gamestop:lol:


If you don't like it..sell it... but for the rest of us who would like to see Hawke's story completed  before rushing into Dragon Age 3. It would really suck to see the Champion of Kirkwall as just another Codex in the new game.

[Nurot]

Tesclo wrote...

Great_Horn wrote...

Skyrim's Todd Howard On What Makes A Success?

http://www.gameinfor...-interview.aspx

Game Informer: As far as sales goes, Skyrim is the best-selling game in Bethesda history. Is there something about the game from a design standpoint that made it more popular and mainstream? The Elder Scrolls series has been typically thought of as very hardcore RPGs.

Todd Howard: The short answer is "I don’t know." I can give you my guess, which is people underestimate how many core gamers there are; people who want a lot of depth and will play a game for a long time. There are a lot of them. If you give them something unique and good, you don’t have to dumb it down.

There are things we changed to make the game better, but not to appeal to a wider audience. I think we always benefited in Elder Scrolls early on, the fact that it is first-person and kind of walks this action line sometimes. We’ve always benefited from that. Even our own lofty expectations for how the game would be received or sell, it’s way, way beyond that.

I don’t have a way of explaining it.

I think he hit the nail on the head. And this goes on to what I was saying earlier. There can be common ground between the 2. Skyrim is a perfect example of that. I really think Bioware should be taking a few notes on how Bethesda does business right now. And why shouldn't they? Look at the huge success of Skyrim and look at the backlash from both Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3. There is a lesson to be learned here.

You know, the Elder scrolls series has changed a lot with each new game. Just as DA2 is hated by a lot of DAO fans, Skyrim and Oblivion is hated by the fans of Morrowind. Visit a Morrowind forum if you don't believe me.

I do hope that Bioware learns from Bethesda since Bethesda has kept their games new and fresh with each new release, same as Bioware with DA2. DA3 seems to be a step backwards (a merge between two old games, DAO and DA2), but that remains to be seen. I do hope they do like Bethesda and dare to change things that needs to be changed. I don't buy a new game to get old gameplay. Plenty of old games to play and replay if I want that.

[Adanu]

Tesclo wrote...

http://www.shacknews...r-opportunities

This is a complete joke. No we obviously do not want a Dragon Age 2 expansion. To be honest, I don't even think many would buy DLC. We do NOT want more of the same. Bioware, we wan't the "spiritual successor" to Baulder's Gate. It's that simple. We want what was promised to us in Dragon Age: Origins. This is so simple to grasp, yet you refuse to give the paying customers what they want. Give us back Origins. You have your FPS in Mass Effect. This series was supposed to be for us. And there IS a market for it. People still play RPGs.

I can't believe I actually have to even write this. Go back to your roots Bioware.

DOn't speak for me, ****.

You have Origins. It worked for what it was. They aren't going back to that 'idea'. I found DA:O to be tedious gameplay wise especially compared to DA2.

DA2 with a bit of DA:O thrown in would be a good hybrid.

[David Gaider]

Tesclo wrote...
And while I do understand that the genre at some point does need to evolve past what was done in the past, games such as Skyrim find a way to do this without pissing off a large portion of the player base.

I appreciate everything you said, and it makes sense, but this sentence made me smile.

[Relshar]

Great_Horn wrote...

I´m not sure if this going back to the roots approach, will definitely end into and disaster. There is this particular rumor about Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition, which I believe some (including myself) find interesting.

I am more excited over the remake of Baldur's Gate than I am about the news of DA3.

[Rogue Unit]

Tesclo wrote...

http://www.shacknews...r-opportunities

This is a complete joke. No we obviously do not want a Dragon Age 2 expansion. To be honest, I don't even think many would buy DLC. We do NOT want more of the same. Bioware, we wan't the "spiritual successor" to Baulder's Gate. It's that simple. We want what was promised to us in Dragon Age: Origins. This is so simple to grasp, yet you refuse to give the paying customers what they want. Give us back Origins. You have your FPS in Mass Effect. This series was supposed to be for us. And there IS a market for it. People still play RPGs.

I can't believe I actually have to even write this. Go back to your roots Bioware.

No. You want the spiritual successor to BG. I don't.

[Meris]

Rogue Unit wrote...

Tesclo wrote...

http://www.shacknews...r-opportunities

This is a complete joke. No we obviously do not want a Dragon Age 2 expansion. To be honest, I don't even think many would buy DLC. We do NOT want more of the same. Bioware, we wan't the "spiritual successor" to Baulder's Gate. It's that simple. We want what was promised to us in Dragon Age: Origins. This is so simple to grasp, yet you refuse to give the paying customers what they want. Give us back Origins. You have your FPS in Mass Effect. This series was supposed to be for us. And there IS a market for it. People still play RPGs.

I can't believe I actually have to even write this. Go back to your roots Bioware.

No. You want the spiritual successor to BG. I don't.

Then its a matter of wanting a sequel to Dragon Age: Origins? Because Dragon Age II was, at best, a spiritual successor to DA:O.

Modifié par Meris, 26 mars 2012 - 04:40 .

[Kail Ashton]

Ahh times like these is where i apreciate people like the topic creator rant on their little soap boxes instead of being in a position to make the abysmal choices they cry about

People like that will never be happy til we're back in caves banging roicks together and smearing blood and refuse on walls to illustrate their generic lives, back to "roots" indeed.