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[kingtigernz]

I have not played the game yet,but I have been reading heaps of article on the fiasco.The issue at hand is getting ignored,from what I gather what Bioware said and delivered did not match up which translates to a lie.People should not apologise for being mislead,it should be the other way around.

Modifié par kingtigernz, 27 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[az350z]

You should all apologize to yourselfs for being sub-human. For devolving into feet-stampers and the scream-until-I-get-what-I-want generation.

Other than that, I'm sure no apology is necessary.

Modifié par az350z, 27 mars 2012 - 07:05 .

[Amaterasuomikami]

There's a difference between constructive criticism and infantile wailing. Whilst there has been some of the former, there has been far too much of the latter.

There's nothing wrong with Mass Effect 3. I haven't got to the ending yet, but as a game it's enjoyable so far. If it's just that the ending is a bit underwhelming I can live with that.

[Dominator24]

HAHAHAHAh ahh good one, no.
Should I say I'm sorry for how I feel or my opinions??
I think not.
I didn't get ME3 for free, so I have right to complain if I want to.

[xsdob]

Embrosil wrote...

If you go to a restaurant, have a wonderful meal but the dessert makes you vomit, will you also apologize? I do not think so.

If you try to put that resturant out of buisness, insult all the staff, set up a charity to make them change your desert, deamdn they refund everyones meals for the day, file a complaint with the food and drug administrations, and bomb every review system in the entire town, than yes, I think an apology might very well be in order for an over reaction.

Complaining about the desert is fine, doing everything in your power to make them finincally crippled is not.

[Malchus]

Interesting consideration OP.

I would think that we would be best off behaving in a way that lets our opinion be known, but does not call for an apology.

I can also state assure you that, if I had LIKED ME3's ending, I would be on these forums just as much saying so just as much as I've expressed displeasure.

[Jadebaby]

To OP: The only people who should apologise are those who have crossed a line or two here and there, as a whole however, definitely not. They lied to us and it's not fair that they get away with it.

Unless it's Indoctrination Theory.

Whatever the case.....


__HOLD__THE__LINE__

[CARL_DF90]

To be fair, ME3 does have it's share of problems that could have been avoided. Now that the bomb has gone off it's a little late to defuse it. You can only enact damage control and clean up the mess. I'm sure that Bioware will do so accordingly in the future. Common sense, it would be irresponsible NOT to.

[Cernex]

Aetius5 wrote...

Even if they did the best job humanly possible to modify the ending, I will never apologize. Its their job to make customers happy, so they can persuade us to spend money on their products.

This on a nutshell.

Personal attacks on the staff is wrong and out of place. Those kind of things shouldn't be done, period.

But complaints on a game that didn't deliver? Will do and continue to do so because the game didn't deliver to my expectations.

[SwitchN7]

I refuse to apologize to someone who for the last 5 years has being lying through their teeth about how amazing will the ENDING be and how ALL my choices will culminate in an epic resolution for our 5 year ride.What's next bending over?

Modifié par SwitchN7, 27 mars 2012 - 08:16 .

[BurnOutBrighter]

No.

If anything, BioWare owes us an apology.

They owe us an apology for lying about the making and purpose of the From Ashes DLC.

They owe us an apology for grossly misleading us about the requirements to reach the "best" ending without playing multiplayer.

They owe us an apology for falsely marketing the game under the conceit that our gameplay choices would matter in the end, and that all major questions about the game universe would be answered.

And most of all, they owe us an apology for the disaster that was the Mass Effect 3 ending.

If not an apology, at least an acknowledgement that the ending was a failure. So far all we've gotten is "People want closure for these characters", which doesn't even address the problem of the giant plot holes, complete disregard of player decisions, and nonsensical slide into incoherence.

If they want the fans to give them another chance, "Sorry" is the only way to start.

Modifié par BurnOutBrighter, 27 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[Mixon]

I apologize for my rude opinion on forum, but ending is still need to be fixed.

Modifié par Mixon, 27 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[Metalrocks]

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

not with this ending.

[BurnOutBrighter]

jreezy wrote...

BurnOutBrighter wrote...

No.

If anything, BioWare owe the fans an apology for that disastrous ending.

Which they've already done. So what's your problem? 

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey."

That's not an apology for the ending itself. That's only the promise of DLC to try to mitigate the damage. An apology would be:

"We realise that we abandoned many of the core principles of the Mass Effect games in the final scenes of Mass Effect 3. The ending was unpolished, incoherent and nonsensical, disregarded the player's actions in deciding the outcome and was a major disappointment to our fans who have invested dozens if not hundreds of hours immersed in the Mass Effect universe. We know that Mass Effect as a work of art deserved a better send off. We know that the fans deserved a better send off. And for our failure in delivering an ending worthy of the Mass Effect name, we apologise. We got it wrong, and we are truly sorry."

Modifié par BurnOutBrighter, 27 mars 2012 - 08:38 .

[Jarondar]

Can´t say I agree with the author of the OP´s linked article.

Probably party because he´s one of them Indoc-diehards, but mostly because he/she/it boldly takes a stab at everyone who´s not convinced of the indoc-theory.

Because, yeah, that´s what it is. A t-h-e-o-r-y. Would be quite mindblowing if true. Which means it most likely isn´t.

At the end of the day, I personally enjoyed the ending. Was quite beautiful and I was content.

[Mars8309]

Lets see... To apologize on a game that was great for a couple days till the last 10-15 minutes hmm... No.
Where were they to confront the gamers that asked them questions about the ending? Instead we got "wait until everyone finishes the game." Followed by silence.
How about multiple endings that there isn't going b an a, b, c ending. what we get "a, b, c ending" along with it didn't matter of my choices in the games of ME1-3 because in the "end" was a kick in shepards nuts. All the things he did ment nothing. Heck all 3 endings lead to the matter of the Mass Relays... leaving alot of questions behind...to which the media is fine having alien allies live on earth and not return to there home planets and win the wars there too. That doesn't make sense.
Yet i should apologize?
Who really needs to make an apology is Bioware. To really mean of there apology is follow the promises they made on the game.
Remaining silent for 2 weeks and treating the gamers like there nothing after being disgusted of the ending they viewed?
I am waiting Bioware.

[RukiaKuchki]

I wonder if any of the people complaining would have been slightly less incensed by the ending if they played it ignorant of the internet controversy and had to judge the game by themselves without having the opportunity to compare and contrast their experiences with others on the forums/youtube/facebook etc? What I can see has happened this past few weeks is a case of internet-generated mass hysteria (no pun intended!). People played the game, probably thought the ending was 'meh', but then after reading other posts on forums etc, people got whipped up into an excited frenzy and 'meh' turned into outright fury. It's actually quite fun to join in the crowd, jump on the hate bandwagon and attempt to bully Bioware and anyone who disagrees with their point of view. The strange thing is this 'take back Mass Effect 3' movement is very confused. Some people simply want the ending expanded and explained, some people want it completely re-written so they get to have their little blue babies, some believe they actually own the game and can dictate their requirements to the Bioware. All of these things are actually quite different and shouldn't be huddled under the same umbrella.

Everyone has the right to speak their mind, but good manners alone should tell you to have some respect for the people who have worked very hard for many years to produce a product that some may consider to be '95% perfect' because ME3 is considerably better than most products out on the market right now. To say the ending of the game has ruined the whole trilogy is just being melodramatic. This negative internet campaigning may make some people feel empowered, make them feel that they are showing the corporate big boys who's really in charge (i.e. the little man fights back). However, what you ARE ensuring is that a game of this size and complexity will never be attempted again. That is a shame.

[RukiaKuchki]

jreezy wrote...

RukiaKuchki wrote...

Everyone has the right to speak their mind, but good manners alone should tell you to have some respect for the people who have worked very hard for many years to produce a product that some may consider to be '95% perfect' because ME3 is considerably better than most products out on the market right now. To say the ending of the game has ruined the whole trilogy is just being melodramatic. This negative internet campaigning may make some people feel empowered, make them feel that they are showing the corporate big boys who's really in charge (i.e. the little man fights back). However, what you ARE ensuring is that a game of this size and complexity will never be attempted again. That is a shame.

Asking people to have good manners on the internet might be a futile effort.

Off topic: Your username is awesome. 

I know sadly  ...but if enough people ask enough times, maybe the Bioware forum can be the start of an internet good manners revolution. Or maybe not...

[Aurica]

I think neither side needs to do any apologies.  BW owns the ME game and is entitled to do whatever they want with it.  The players are also entitled to provide feedback or complaints in this case if they are unhappy with the product. 

Ranting angrily at BW isn't really going to accomplish anything here.  The devs have no doubt felt the ire of the fan-base but I don't think they are in the position to make executive decision to change the ending. 

It will probably have to come direct from the top or EA.  The only way for them to get their attention and take it seriously are the hard numbers. If the Sales figures plummeted, then they would have the urgency to do something about it.

We may whine, rant, complain all we want, but as long as we continue to purchase their products, nothing will change.  We are perpetuating the cycle.  That being said.  We as consumers need to be more discipline in our
purchases and not fall into temptation to buy just about anything they throw at us.

Modifié par Aurica, 27 mars 2012 - 10:34 .

[Drake_1000]

Embrosil wrote...

If you go to a restaurant, have a wonderful meal but the dessert makes you vomit, will you also apologize? I do not think so.

That was great.