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[HighFlyingDwarf]

Gogzilla wrote...

-Same CGI footage reused for the ending.

This! Thank god!

[abaris]

Tazzmission wrote...


a sane person would do the following


complain to manager, manager dosent listen, you go to corporate ( wich in this case is ea)

And then wait until hell freezes over.

I'm always amazed how much confidence there is in corporate proceedings. Publicity, good or bad, is the corporate language. Letters and emails find their way to the usual channels. Look no further than your desktop, there should be a symbol similiar to a bin - that should give you an idea.

I'm certainly not endorsing personal attacks. But since I know corporate procedures from the inside, I'm very much for getting ourselves heard publicly.

And once again, a company isn't a person.

[IndustrializedTaco]

The game was great, accept for the ending. As to apologizing, I don't think so. We are giving them feedback on their product be it negative. Well if they fix this, or if it was planned I will forever be their slave, and buy their products forever.

[Lucas-Shepard]

Sowwy I not happy with product. Please take my moneyz and give me rock.

I have never attacked any individuals from Bioware, therefore I have nothing to apologize for. I have however questioned the way the company has handled this whole thing, which is only fair if I'm unhappy with the product I bought.

[Sero303]

Apologize? no... respect? YES,...end of story

[Blarty]

abaris wrote...
But all their statements so far have been pretty noncommital. The usual PR stuff.

And before you jump at my throat, that's to be expected, since they're probably still in the process of evaluating their options. It only goes to show that they follow corporate procedure just like any other given company.

That's all there is to it. The staff of Bioware aren't our buddies to invite over for some beers and watching a game. They represent a business and as such aren't free to speak their mind.

In all honesty, it's not particularly surprising is it? And that's over and above the usual PR fluff; with all the constant accusations of lies, and 'promises made' but broken, I think they'll be especially careful what they say, and what can be perceived to be read between the lines of any future statement. I highly doubt that Bioware will be particularly forthcoming with ideas and thoughts during development of future titles, at least as much as they were seen to be with ME3, for fear of causing yet another storm, at least in the short term.

Modifié par Blarty, 27 mars 2012 - 08:39 .

[Il Divo]

Tazzmission wrote...

Embrosil wrote...

If you go to a restaurant, have a wonderful meal but the dessert makes you vomit, will you also apologize? I do not think so.

:sigh:


quit using that as an excuse because no sane person would go as far as to destroy a restaurant



a sane person would do the following


complain to manager, manager dosent listen, you go to corporate ( wich in this case is ea)



seriously grow up be a man and give the apology that is do

Why give an apology which is not owed? 

[ODESSA_Z]

Zaasz wrote...

Not everyone is going to agree, but I personally found that the entirety of the game was well above average, beyond that actually. I agree that Mass Effect is our first true video game "epic" but I also think there could be some more closure as well. This article from GGTL is kinda long, but it sums up a lot of the criticisms and calls into question much of the unnecessary hate BioWare has been receiving.

http://www.gamersgui...efront-and.html

What do you all think? Was it really necessary to attack BioWare personally for something that isn't even THAT bad? Yeah, I think the endings could have answered a bit more and maybe we could have seen more from the war assets in the final battle, but overall I was intrigued by the end.

1. Yes it was uneccessary.

2. Yes, the ending was not that bad.

3. Fans want to believe that they are more important than what they are. Fans believe that they can effect change when they really can't....big change anyway....small - yes.

People will apologize after the DLC comes out for the most part. The hardcore haters will not, but will still buy the DLc so they can complain about it.

I think the whole "ending controversy" needs to be looked at from a societal viewpoint where, in today's society, people just want to complain about anything and everything like little immature crybabies who didn't get theri way. Its what they were taught by their lacadazical parents who spoiled their kids and didn't care enough to teach them that sometimes you just don't get "your way".

[Legion64]

Embrosil wrote...

If you go to a restaurant, have a wonderful meal but the dessert makes you vomit, will you also apologize? I do not think so.

This. Bioware doesn't deserve any apology what so ever.

Modifié par Legion64, 27 mars 2012 - 08:45 .

[bpzrn]

Embrosil wrote...

If you go to a restaurant, have a wonderful meal but the dessert makes you vomit, will you also apologize? I do not think so.

This is how I feel re ME3,

[Blarty]

Legion64 wrote...

Embrosil wrote...

If you go to a restaurant, have a wonderful meal but the dessert makes you vomit, will you also apologize? I do not think so.

This. Bioware doesn't deserve any apology what so ever.

Yay, an apples-to oranges comparison wins the internet for another day

[abaris]

Blarty wrote...

In all honesty, it's not particularly surprising is it? And that's over and above the usual PR fluff; with all the constant accusations of lies, and 'promises made' but broken, I think they'll be especially careful what they say, and what can be perceived to be read between the lines of any future statement. I highly doubt that Bioware will be particularly forthcoming with ideas and thoughts during development of future titles, at least as much as they were seen to be with ME3, for fear of causing yet another storm, at least in the short term.

Got nothing to do with it.

Not one individual loving their job would speak their mind. They always speak the PR departments mind, which is - as I said - usual procedure.

There will never be a one on one with any of the employees, regardless of how high in the food chain. I'm only surprised that people still expect that, since they probably hold jobs of their own and should know that it doesn't sit well with employers to blurt out what you think of them or their products. And the larger the company, the stricter the rules.

[Tazzmission]

Il Divo wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Embrosil wrote...

If you go to a restaurant, have a wonderful meal but the dessert makes you vomit, will you also apologize? I do not think so.

:sigh:


quit using that as an excuse because no sane person would go as far as to destroy a restaurant



a sane person would do the following


complain to manager, manager dosent listen, you go to corporate ( wich in this case is ea)



seriously grow up be a man and give the apology that is do

Why give an apology which is not owed? 

why not? because you say  so?

you dont at all agree that alot of fans have indeed taken it to far?

i really hope you never own a buisness let alone work for one because if you were on the other end of the stick you wouldnt say what you just said

[F7de]

http://jmstevenson.w...-mass-effect-3/

This. About an apology, I dont think so.. .

[Whatever42]

No apology is owed unless someone personally was rude or disrespectful.

Bioware delivered a product that many of us felt let us down. We want Bioware to succeed. We want them to be brilliant. They failed in an important aspect of their flagship trilogy and we let them know. People were forceful, they were eloquent, they were thorough, they were imaginative, they were playful but they were also clear and unequivocal. They have nothing for which to apologize.

Sure, others were rude and disrespectful, either because they're natural born trolls or because they are emotional children who throw their toys when they get angry. However, the majority were great. Those people owe apologies but will never give them, so asking is pointless.

[Il Divo]

Tazzmission wrote...

why not? because you say  so?

you dont at all agree that alot of fans have indeed taken it to far?

i really hope you never own a buisness let alone work for one because if you were on the other end of the stick you wouldnt say what you just said

Cut the crap. I'm not going to apologize for actions which are not my own, why should I? I have not threatened Bioware, I have not insulted them. When I'm in charge of a business, then I'll apologize as necessary to ensure customer satisfaction, and that profits keep rolling in. Stop the Bioware apologist act, this is not a business, which you might want to take into consideration before you start telling everyone they should apologize.  

Modifié par Il Divo, 27 mars 2012 - 09:04 .

[Elhanan]

And Bioware does not need to apologize to the maddened crowd; simply accept that some do not care the ending and move on....

However, they appear to be better than these fans, and aew willing to keep am open mind about the matter; while art, it is only a game, after all.

[78stonewobble]

I think the people complaining about people complaining owe the complaining people an apology.

But maybe thats just me... complaining...

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 27 mars 2012 - 10:20 .

[Plasma Prestige]

Bioware deserved all the criticism they received on the endings, but not any mistreatment or disrespect. My only concern is passionate criticism being judged as disrespectful.

[Jayelle Janson]

I will be more than happy to eat my words in April and wash them down with a cupcake or two.

[addiction21]

It is a business relationship. No apologies from either side and if you think you deserve one you need to get your feet on the ground.

[Romantiq]

 They don't give a damn about your apology kid. Give 'em moneyz yo.

[Bawseee]

Just re-add all the dialogue choices in game, and have a half-way decent ending and this game would be awesome. Why oh why and how could you **** something like this up for the final game of the trilogy. Still don't understand.

[Stanley Woo]

Things are getting a little heated in this thread. Please take whatever is the equivalent of a "chill pill" in your vernacular and remember that everyone is entitled to share their opinions in our community, even those who disagree with you. We're all here to enjoy BioWare games (or criticize them, as you will) and share in our love of the Mass Effect franchise and our ME experiences, and we can do that without insulting, name-calling, or freaking out.

thank you.