Should we apologize to BioWare?
#351
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 11:27
#352
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 11:34
However, with that in mind...
As you can probably tell by my name, I've been a Bioware fan since Neverwinter Nights. I loved them and their games. The vast majority of Mass Effect 3 was a true masterpiece and indeed a 10 out of 10 game, in my opinion. In fact, I was ready to proclaim it as my favorite game ever -- the first game to take that crown since Metal Gear Solid in 1998. Beautiful, heartwarming, glorious, thrilling, emotional.
Then, the ending hit me like an anvil. The game and the ending are like night and day. It does not fit in the Mass Effect universe.
So, as far as asking for a "real" ending, I am unapologetic. I'm sure we can discuss this like smart people and come up with a good solution for everyone.
#353
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 11:35
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Why? They released the game with this ridiculous ending hoping we would swallow it with a smile. If you pay someone to provide a product and they provide a shoddy product, will you kiss that person's feet when they fix their mistake? No, you will likely be on the fence when it comes to getting products from them in the future and you certainly wouldn't act like the mistake never happened.
Bioware and the employees of Bioware are not your friends.They would not be doing you a favor by fixing the ending.
#354
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:09
BrotherWarth wrote...
I keep seeing people in this thread any many others saying "When/if they release a new ending I'll take back everything I said/eat my words."
Why? They released the game with this ridiculous ending hoping we would swallow it with a smile. If you pay someone to provide a product and they provide a shoddy product, will you kiss that person's feet when they fix their mistake? No, you will likely be on the fence when it comes to getting products from them in the future and you certainly wouldn't act like the mistake never happened.
Bioware and the employees of Bioware are not your friends.They would not be doing you a favor by fixing the ending.
I accept the ending with a smile; watched it over youtube, and am content.
They do not owe me or anone else a favor or apology by enhancing the ending, but am glad they are considering alternatives.
And some folks at Bioware are my friends; as much as that is possible over the internet these past 12+ yes.
But you are correct in that I do not need to take anything back, so one out of four ain't bad.....
#355
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:12
#356
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:17
#357
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:23
#358
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:33
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Elhanan wrote...
BrotherWarth wrote...
I keep seeing people in this thread any many others saying "When/if they release a new ending I'll take back everything I said/eat my words."
Why? They released the game with this ridiculous ending hoping we would swallow it with a smile. If you pay someone to provide a product and they provide a shoddy product, will you kiss that person's feet when they fix their mistake? No, you will likely be on the fence when it comes to getting products from them in the future and you certainly wouldn't act like the mistake never happened.
Bioware and the employees of Bioware are not your friends.They would not be doing you a favor by fixing the ending.
I accept the ending with a smile; watched it over youtube, and am content.
They do not owe me or anone else a favor or apology by enhancing the ending, but am glad they are considering alternatives.
And some folks at Bioware are my friends; as much as that is possible over the internet these past 12+ yes.
But you are correct in that I do not need to take anything back, so one out of four ain't bad.....
Bioware Defense Force on the scene!
#359
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:36
#360
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:36
#361
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:40
#362
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 12:52
It's our role to do so as the fans we claim to be.
Those who have insulted them should apologize and regret their actions, but the rest of us who have been cordial with Bioware should just stick to our guns. Screw the media in my opinion. Unbiased opinions aka: your own, are what you need to consider.
Modifié par Gaiden96, 28 mars 2012 - 12:53 .
#363
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:17
#364
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:24
#365
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:38
#366
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:39
Those who harassed, sent threats, review bombed, demanded, lied etc. SHOULD be apologizing for being....well, need I say it?
Those who voiced their concerns in a civil, constructive manner were perfectly within their rights to do what they did.
#367
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:40
#368
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:43
#369
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:45
^ThisPersephone wrote...
Let me put it this way:
Those who harassed, sent threats, review bombed, demanded, lied etc. SHOULD be apologizing for being....well, need I say it?
Those who voiced their concerns in a civil, constructive manner were perfectly within their rights to do what they did.
We? Who the hell is 'we'? Do we know eachother? If you did some poor remarks in the heat of the moment regarding BW or this ending, YOU go apologise. I don't owe them a rat's ass.The Grey Nayr wrote...
Damn right, we should!
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED WITH THEIR PR DECLARATIONS, THE WHOLE "HUMANISING THE ADVERSARY STRATEGY"! HOLD THE LINE YOU WEAK MINDED FOOLS!
#370
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:46
Persephone wrote...
Let me put it this way:
Those who harassed, sent threats, review bombed, demanded, lied etc. SHOULD be apologizing for being....well, need I say it?
Those who voiced their concerns in a civil, constructive manner were perfectly within their rights to do what they did.
Not that I agree with review bombing, lying etc. but Bioware will only deserve a goddamn apology when they apologize for the bull**** they did with From Ashes, TIM and the Catalyst. Defending ME3 is all well and fine because it has very good moments, but Bioware as a company? It doesn't ****ing deserve it.
#371
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:48
#372
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:51
Costin_Razvan wrote...
Persephone wrote...
Let me put it this way:
Those who harassed, sent threats, review bombed, demanded, lied etc. SHOULD be apologizing for being....well, need I say it?
Those who voiced their concerns in a civil, constructive manner were perfectly within their rights to do what they did.
Not that I agree with review bombing, lying etc. but Bioware will only deserve a goddamn apology when they apologize for the bull**** they did with From Ashes, TIM and the Catalyst. Defending ME3 is all well and fine because it has very good moments, but Bioware as a company? It doesn't ****ing deserve it.
Understandable.
I can live with "From Ashes" (I do like Javik, that guy's refreshingly pragmatic). But TIM and the Catalyst sure NEED some work.
As a company? No.
The devs who poured their hearts & souls into this (It really shows, flaws or no) are a different matter IMO.
#373
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:57
Persephone wrote...
Let me put it this way:
Those who harassed, sent threats, review bombed, demanded, lied etc. SHOULD be apologizing for being....well, need I say it?
Do you think those people would? Do you think those people ever thought or think they did something wrong?
#374
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 03:59
(i.e. saying something like "I didn't enjoy Mass Effect 3 because I found it slightly rushed in certain aspects such as the ending...")
If one's consistently posting stuff that's insulting and directly attacking Bioware itself (especially the employees), then that's a bit uncalled for. If anybody did this, they should thoroughly consider apologizing.
Don't get me wrong though, I thought ME3 was a hell of a ride, bad ending or no. I'd still play it again, and I salute Bioware for their hard work.
#375
Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:00




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