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[johnj1979]

The ending of the game is terrible I just don't see why it wasn't done like Mass Effect 1 & 2, big boss fight then make decisions on whether to destroy the Reaper or join with the Reapers to me it should of been that simple.

[jeweledleah]

Rusted Cage wrote...

Hey Jewel, how's it going?

I ain't done nothin' to apologize for but don't like the thought that maybe some members of the Bioware team might be feeling terrible. I guess I feel sorry for them.

its going  

and hell, I sympathize with how they must be feeling right now.  negative feedback hurts.  and I'm pretty sure that when they were working on Mass Effect - they cared a great deal about their work.  but at the same time, here's a personal example.  I have designed pieces to sell, that are my favorites, I slaved over them, babied them, was pretty happy with how they turned out.  and people didn't like them.  instead, they absolutely loved something that took me fraction of the time to create and I never in a million years could anticipate just how popular it would get (bioware's equivalent would be Tali and Garrus - they admited as much, saying that they didn't think people wuld love them so much, let alone want to romance them).  does it hurt that my favorites are not apreciated?  hells yes.  do I want costumers to apologize for it, or for telling me why those pieces don't work for them?  hell no.  what do I do?  I listen to feedback and create pieces that customers actualy loved.  use them as starting point and work in that direction.

so yes, I feel bad for them.  but I don't feel sorry for them or need to apologize.  because such is life of a commercial artist.  you don't create for yourself.  you create for your consumer base.

[Billabong2011]

No.

[Arokel]

That would be done on an individual basis. Some people have been very rude and should. Most have not and thus should not.

[Rusted Cage]

Hah Leah, I was too lazy to type anything nearly as intelligent as that but I think we're on the same page. I never knew you are an artist.

Modifié par Rusted Cage, 28 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[abaris]

jeweledleah wrote...

(bioware's equivalent would be Tali and Garrus - they admited as much, saying that they didn't think people wuld love them so much, let alone want to romance them).

Which is rather odd, since Garrus in my opinion is the most well written and rounded character, not only of Mass Effect but of many games I've experienced.

[AlanC9]

johnj1979 wrote...

The ending of the game is terrible I just don't see why it wasn't done like Mass Effect 1 & 2, big boss fight then make decisions on whether to destroy the Reaper or join with the Reapers to me it should of been that simple.

Ick. Why does every game have to end with a boss fight?

[Kub666]

I'm not sure what is the purpose of this thread. Is this a flamebait? What's the point of asking rhetorical questions like that? How are you even gonna "apologize" to a company? Do you apologize to Pepsi if you write on the internet that KFC sucks? What is this I don't even.

Modifié par Kub666, 28 mars 2012 - 08:08 .

[PrinceLionheart]

 Considering how poorly Bioware has addressed the situation, not at all no.

[bluewolv1970]

are you serious??? NO NO NO

[Kaija]

No.

[Lunatic LK47]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

 Considering how poorly Bioware has addressed the situation, not at all no.

This.  Priestly locking down my other topics about the false advertisements is very telling.

[jeweledleah]

abaris wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

(bioware's equivalent would be Tali and Garrus - they admited as much, saying that they didn't think people wuld love them so much, let alone want to romance them).

Which is rather odd, since Garrus in my opinion is the most well written and rounded character, not only of Mass Effect but of many games I've experienced.

not really odd.  just a case of unexpected reaction really.  obviosuly they tried to write him as a good character, they just didn't anticipate the fan reaction to him.  pretty sure didn't didn't anticipate reaction people would have to Jacob either.  and Thane was outright written with female players in mind, and while it did work for some, it didn't work for nearly as many as they thought it would.

its not as uncommon as it seems.  I don't think when JK Rowlins wrote Harry Potter, she anticipated just how popular it would become.  and I'm just as sure that when Michael Bay made Revenge of the Fallen and Dark side of the Moon, he had no idea that so many fans would.. dislike it.

you do your best and then you work with the feedback you get.  or you either hope for luck/stars aligning or something, or accept being starving misunderstood artist who MIGht be apreciated posthumously.  All the great artists through the ages knew that.  after all?  vast majority of them created for Patrons, rather then for their own amusement

edited @ Rusted Cage.  I'm a jeweler   close enough

Modifié par jeweledleah, 28 mars 2012 - 08:24 .

[ShinsFortress]

AlanC9 wrote...

johnj1979 wrote...

The ending of the game is terrible I just don't see why it wasn't done like Mass Effect 1 & 2, big boss fight then make decisions on whether to destroy the Reaper or join with the Reapers to me it should of been that simple.

Ick. Why does every game have to end with a boss fight?

It doesn't.  Back in the day Black Isle Studios, one time peers of Bioware, developed Planescape: Torment.

It is one of the handful of games ever, that I gave 9/10 to.  The final encounter was not automatically combat.  It could be, depending on how you play, but by the same token ('player choice', hint-hint @ Bioware) it didn't have to be.

[bennyjammin79]

I think the over zealous nerd-rage and the FTC/BBB fiasco should be apologized for. People who think games are not art should apologize (it's pig ignorant to think this).

Don't apologize for not liking the ending.

[Mylia Stenetch]

No. I do not owe Bioware an appology. At the same time Bioware do not owe me an apology.

[Lunatic LK47]

Oh yeah, BioWare definitely owes us a big apology for the false advertising.

[bennyjammin79]

@Brother

creating entertainment is an art form. deal with it.

[Farbautisonn]

BrotherWarth wrote...

bennyjammin79 wrote...

@Brother

creating entertainment is an art form. deal with it.

That's, like, your opinion, man.

-Then Porn is art too I suppose? 

[bennyjammin79]

That's like, a f*ckin' fact, man.

/end discussion

[muse108]

I dont think we need to apologize for anything. The ending was bad, I still feel THEY need to admit THEY were in the wrong and apologize for it