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Aesieru wrote...

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It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.


Never taken a holiday in Europe?

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.



Never taken a holiday in Europe?


Never even been to Europe but I know people who have and I know they didn't encounter nudity every other 20 minutes or hear about sex every 30 like in W2. 

Modifié par Aesieru, 26 mars 2012 - 03:45 .


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I'm completely fine with the Garrus romance without seeing his naked weiner.

Go watch some porn.


Now this is something I like to be left on imagination

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i love how people seem to jump from wearing underwear to porn. all they had to do was the same as most movies, day time soaps etc you dont even need new character meshes for that just show them under covers with the covers pulled up past anything or the top of their back in the shower.

It is very easy to show nudity without it being pornographic or even showing anything remotely rude at all

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kalle90 wrote...

Avolie wrote...

I'm completely fine with the Garrus romance without seeing his naked weiner.

Go watch some porn.


Now this is something I like to be left on imagination


Sure, especially in REAL life ya'll would be terrified to actually see a REAL Turian, let alone a nekkid one.  

'Sept for you pervos that is...you know who you are. The ones that dig the rear ends of sheep, goats, horses, dogs, cats, badgers, chickens, etc.  Same diff.

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Aesieru wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.



Never taken a holiday in Europe?


Never even been to Europe but I know people who have and I know they didn't encounter nudity every other 20 minutes or hear about sex every 30 like in W2. 


Cleary, they didn't turn on the tv. :P I actually like Arte in Germany and France, quality documentaries with that artistic spin, and they don't shy away from nudity either.  

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rdrules wrote...

i love how people seem to jump from wearing underwear to porn. all they had to do was the same as most movies, day time soaps etc you dont even need new character meshes for that just show them under covers with the covers pulled up past anything or the top of their back in the shower.

It is very easy to show nudity without it being pornographic or even showing anything remotely rude at all


Just watch a superbowl half-time show!  Sheesh.  Or ANY music video.  Or look at ANY magazine for women (or men).  

A lot of peeps need to take a breath and relax about the whole body thing.

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Fox. 5 years ago. Nuff' said.

Seriously, Americans have this weird thing about nudity.


It makes no sense. So you can show a head exploding from taking an exploding round, but god forbid you show some side boob, nipple and naked crotch.

Repressed nation is repressed! At this rate, Americans will wear Christian Right Burkhas before the end of this century. Hopefully, China will save us from ourselves.  :police:  


It's a maturity thing.

People aren't ready for naked, but they are happy to look at the inside of a spleen.

It's like the whole ****** thing, people are so upset about EDI's ******, but don't mind that a reaper blew up a small child with a red laser.



The only problem I have with EDI's cameltoe is it is so...trailer trash.  EDI isn't trailer trash.  

Keep the cameltoe where it belongs: in Hooters and in the trailer park/low rent bars.


I don't care where they put it. I'm just pointing out peoples priorities.

They would rather argue and talk about a ****** than the fact a small little defenseless kid got blown up.

Imagine if they put in real nudes? It would be a PR nightmare, best leave the sex appeal designed for 5 year olds, because that's the maturity Western adults have in today's age (as ME3's ****** has proven).

Modifié par StabGuy, 26 mars 2012 - 03:51 .


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Man, just give us an option to censor it if we want it. Have it censored in the beginning, so maybe younger players or players who dont want to see it will not see it, but when we put the censors off, we can see partial nudity or something.... I dont understand the fuzz about it. I think there is nothing wrong with partial nudity in a game, especially in a game which focusses on relationships like this, as long as you can put it off for gamers who wont want it.

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Aesieru wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.



Never taken a holiday in Europe?


Never even been to Europe but I know people who have and I know they didn't encounter nudity every other 20 minutes or hear about sex every 30 like in W2. 


My wife is European actually.

And it matters a GREAT DEAL where in Europe you're talking about. There are a lot of different cultures and countries in Europe.

But overall, for the most part, nudity is not that big of a deal. Heck, I went on my honeymoon in the south of Spain and there's absolutely no restriction against toplessness for women at all. There were topless women sunbathing out by the pool at my hotel and everywhere on the beaches I visited.

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HenkieDePost wrote...

Man, just give us an option to censor it if we want it. Have it censored in the beginning, so maybe younger players or players who dont want to see it will not see it, but when we put the censors off, we can see partial nudity or something.... I dont understand the fuzz about it. I think there is nothing wrong with partial nudity in a game, especially in a game which focusses on relationships like this, as long as you can put it off for gamers who wont want it.


Works for me.  Just as they have that "blood and guts" setting on some games to tone down the depiction of carnage, they can offer up a choice of game as "PG, PG-13, NC-17, or R for sexual content.

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People are that asking more nudity in games, and more realistic sex scenes, are in my book perves who missed the point of playing an RPG, and making all the crap that FOX made out about ME sounds real. Just watch a goddamn porno like normal people!

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Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.


It's a adult-themed fantasy series, reality left its underpants in the barn. I think any declaration of "it's far too common to be realistic" is moot, but here's the thing, if I was a demon slayer travelling with my occassional bed warmer/mage/girlfriend/partner, I'm pretty sure we'd be constantly at it while journeying through the woods, and across the fields.  Quite frankly, I can't see sex not featuring...

   

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Solmanian wrote...

People are that asking more nudity in games, and more realistic sex scenes, are in my book perves who missed the point of playing an RPG, and making all the crap that FOX made out about ME sounds real. Just watch a goddamn porno like normal people!


I think YOU are missing the point.  It is patently ridiculous and jarring to see a character get in the shower WITH HER BRA ON.  NO WOMAN sleeps in her bra.  It wrecks the imersion.  It dorks the suspension of disbelief and is in your face about doing it too.  

You don't have to have realistic depictions of sex, just more mature, intelligent, reasonable, and realistic depictions (no bras in the shower, no bras worn in bed while having sex OR when waking in the morning).  That leaves a LOT of latitude.

ME1 is still the champ when it comes to depiction of sex in the ME series.  Hands down.

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PaddlePop wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.


It's a adult-themed fantasy series, reality left its underpants in the barn. I think any declaration of "it's far too common to be realistic" is moot, but here's the thing, if I was a demon slayer travelling with my occassional bed warmer/mage/girlfriend/partner, I'm pretty sure we'd be constantly at it while journeying through the woods, and across the fields.  Quite frankly, I can't see sex not featuring...

   


Adult doesn't mean sex, that's the thing that gets me.

By making it so adult just means sex and drugs, alcohol, smoking, and lots of vulgarities... you're basically labeling adults as immature.

Witcher 2 had a lot of good, but it also had a lot of bad in regards to both of the games and how they portrayed it. And the damn naked cards...

I would not be having sex all the time, I'd be training A LOT.

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Getorex wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

People are that asking more nudity in games, and more realistic sex scenes, are in my book perves who missed the point of playing an RPG, and making all the crap that FOX made out about ME sounds real. Just watch a goddamn porno like normal people!


I think YOU are missing the point.  It is patently ridiculous and jarring to see a character get in the shower WITH HER BRA ON.  NO WOMAN sleeps in her bra.  It wrecks the imersion.  It dorks the suspension of disbelief and is in your face about doing it too.  

You don't have to have realistic depictions of sex, just more mature, intelligent, reasonable, and realistic depictions (no bras in the shower, no bras worn in bed while having sex OR when waking in the morning).  That leaves a LOT of latitude.

ME1 is still the champ when it comes to depiction of sex in the ME series.  Hands down.


People have had sex with bras on dude and while in bed.

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Aesieru wrote...

PaddlePop wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.


It's a adult-themed fantasy series, reality left its underpants in the barn. I think any declaration of "it's far too common to be realistic" is moot, but here's the thing, if I was a demon slayer travelling with my occassional bed warmer/mage/girlfriend/partner, I'm pretty sure we'd be constantly at it while journeying through the woods, and across the fields.  Quite frankly, I can't see sex not featuring...

   


Adult doesn't mean sex, that's the thing that gets me.

By making it so adult just means sex and drugs, alcohol, smoking, and lots of vulgarities... you're basically labeling adults as immature.

Witcher 2 had a lot of good, but it also had a lot of bad in regards to both of the games and how they portrayed it. And the damn naked cards...

I would not be having sex all the time, I'd be training A LOT.


AND having sex.  You know you would.

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Aesieru wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

People are that asking more nudity in games, and more realistic sex scenes, are in my book perves who missed the point of playing an RPG, and making all the crap that FOX made out about ME sounds real. Just watch a goddamn porno like normal people!


I think YOU are missing the point.  It is patently ridiculous and jarring to see a character get in the shower WITH HER BRA ON.  NO WOMAN sleeps in her bra.  It wrecks the imersion.  It dorks the suspension of disbelief and is in your face about doing it too.  

You don't have to have realistic depictions of sex, just more mature, intelligent, reasonable, and realistic depictions (no bras in the shower, no bras worn in bed while having sex OR when waking in the morning).  That leaves a LOT of latitude.

ME1 is still the champ when it comes to depiction of sex in the ME series.  Hands down.


People have had sex with bras on dude and while in bed.


Yes, but not as a rule...and apparently against your preference.  It is usually done when the urge to sex is too strong to wait until getting fully undressed.  I've done that too.  It is rare as full on naked is preferable...more skin contact.  Better.

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Getorex wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

PaddlePop wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.


It's a adult-themed fantasy series, reality left its underpants in the barn. I think any declaration of "it's far too common to be realistic" is moot, but here's the thing, if I was a demon slayer travelling with my occassional bed warmer/mage/girlfriend/partner, I'm pretty sure we'd be constantly at it while journeying through the woods, and across the fields.  Quite frankly, I can't see sex not featuring...

   


Adult doesn't mean sex, that's the thing that gets me.

By making it so adult just means sex and drugs, alcohol, smoking, and lots of vulgarities... you're basically labeling adults as immature.

Witcher 2 had a lot of good, but it also had a lot of bad in regards to both of the games and how they portrayed it. And the damn naked cards...

I would not be having sex all the time, I'd be training A LOT.


AND having sex.  You know you would.


I guess different strokes for different folks, but as I said, if I was travelling with a hottie, sex would be my training regime...  Hopefully, magic provides some form of contraception.:wizard:

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Getorex wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

PaddlePop wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

It is stupid how Western culture considers terrible acts of violence to be acceptable but any explict act of love is heavily censored/repressed...

Really we should not have to deal with the whole "about to have sex... fade to black... cut to pillow talk" scenes. Come on the Witcher + Witcher 2 is the example you should be following.

Though even their nudity isn't complete.


Their nudity is more than enough in W2, and is far too common to be realistic either.


It's a adult-themed fantasy series, reality left its underpants in the barn. I think any declaration of "it's far too common to be realistic" is moot, but here's the thing, if I was a demon slayer travelling with my occassional bed warmer/mage/girlfriend/partner, I'm pretty sure we'd be constantly at it while journeying through the woods, and across the fields.  Quite frankly, I can't see sex not featuring...

   


Adult doesn't mean sex, that's the thing that gets me.

By making it so adult just means sex and drugs, alcohol, smoking, and lots of vulgarities... you're basically labeling adults as immature.

Witcher 2 had a lot of good, but it also had a lot of bad in regards to both of the games and how they portrayed it. And the damn naked cards...

I would not be having sex all the time, I'd be training A LOT.


AND having sex.  You know you would.


If my life was on the line and my chances of survival and thus the many future instances of sex or cigar smoking or whatever the hell I wanted was on the line I would dedicate all my time to GETTING TO THAT POINT which means TRAINING so I don't die.

LOTS O TRAINING / FIGHTING / PLANNING, no time for sex. Wait for later. Better.

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Violence > Sex, pretty much explains a lot of things.

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I still think by far the most stupid thing here is showering in your underwear.
I mean seriously? who does that?

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What's with the lack of nudity?


As always, blame the Americans.

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I'm not playing the game for CGI genitals or whatever but it just looks ridiculous when Traynor takes a shower in her underwear etc. It breaks the immersion of it all really, I don't see why Bioware couldn't make use of the strategic camera angles/arms like they did with Liara?

Not that I'm that bothered about it, but it does look silly!

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I think it's because it's weird and ends up unintentionally hilarious. I was fine with what the player got with Liara for example, you don't need to see anything.

Plus, I don't wanna see alien genitals.


Am I the only one who's curious to see if convergent evolution has resulted in Liara having a vagina, or whether Garrus actually has a penis? I always thought that poor fool had a cloaca.  How can you not want to see alien genitals?  :lol:


Probably! :D

Asari must be similar to human females, I mean they all have mammary glands...
re: Garrus ... man, I don't want to go there :o

Maybe they're on their knees like the alien Kirk fights in Star Trek VI, lol.