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[TurismoM3]

Hi all, & BioWare,

This is my first post & I searched this forum for this topic but could not find anything on it.  So sorry if it's already been talked about.

Why are the Dragon Age game saves Copy Protected on the PS3???

The reason I ask is because my PS3 has died twice this year & I've lost all my saves that were copy protected.  I back up my saves manually to my USB memory stick daily & use the PS3 Backup Utility on a weekly basis.

Now I have first hand experience with this.  The PS3 Backup Utility will only restore everything backed up to the same system. So if you Restore to the exact same System it will restore everything including Copy Protected Saves. If you Restore to a repaired System it will think it's a different unit & only restore all PS3 saves that are non copy protected.  Trust me I've tried, for example I lost my Killzone 2 saves.

My first repair they replaced the motherboard & the blu-ray drive. The second repair the just replaced the blu-ray drive, some luck eh.  My serial number on the unit has remained the same both times & also both times the Restore function on the Backup Utility did not restore any of my copy protected saves because it thinks it's a different unit.

They say the fail rate on PS3's in around 10-15%.  That's means that 10-15% of people are losing their valuable game save information which is extremely annoying.  Also if somebody buys a new PS3, there is No way to transfer your copy protected saves over from your old PS3.

So Bio-Ware why are they copy protected? Keep in mind that many games have patched out copy protected saves.  I will have to think twice about buying all your 2 years worth of up coming DLC only to possibly lose all my saved progress?

Thank you & please fix....

PS I love the game & wow what a great story, great work BioWare.

[ScraplandIRL]

I agree with you and it really is irksome, regardless if your PS3 breaks. What about us Multi PS3 owners who may own one in the bedroom and one in the living room for example. As it currently stands I'm unable to continue my game on differing ps3's. I just don't understand why 'any' game save (not just Dragon Age) is copy protected. It's just annoying.

[TurismoM3]

I think some games like to have copy protected saves, so people don't try to hack the save file to cheat in Multi Player games. Even then the game should split the saves up. Non copy protected save for single player & copy protected for multi player. I don't even like that.



There is no reason why Dragon Age needs a copy protected save, it's a single player game. Players have a lot of time invested in these RPG's so the save files are very important. I mean between Oblivion & Fallout 3 I have like 250 hours in. In a couple of years if I want to pick up that old game I'll have those saves Backed Up ready for use.

[dmacleod66]

It was EA's decision not bioware, EA is copy protecting saves on more and more of their games.

[Rusty Balls]

Larger thread about it here dude , http://social.biowar...8/index/248205.

Feel free to voice in it.

This copy-right protection is about as much use as a cumley lass with a penis. Will be avoiding it in the future.

Modifié par Rusty Balls, 22 janvier 2010 - 02:18 .

[TurismoM3]

Can someone from Bioware comment on this copy protected saves issue, please. Before my PS3 dies for a 3rd time. Do for a fellow Canadian.



We need to make more noise........

[Spuro]

I hope there is a possibility to remove the file protection on our saves in the near future. This is basically punishing the legitimate purchaser of the game.

[fooly1cooly]

I've had to upgrade my 60Gb PS3 to the newer line and have put in a good 45hours into this game. Now that I can't cross my saves over I'm honestly too frustrated to replay it all over again. I *was* really excited about Awakening and Mass Effect 2 but I'm not going to spend a dime on any future games or DLC from them until I know they aren't either a) sh!t heads or incompetent.

[Creidim77]

If you've 'upgraded' to a new slim, you can hook the 60G to the slim, and migrate all those copy protected saves over to the new slim. If you have both PS3's still, you at least have options.

[OnesOwnGrief]

I agree.

[Spuro]

Creidim77 wrote...

If you've 'upgraded' to a new slim, you can hook the 60G to the slim, and migrate all those copy protected saves over to the new slim. If you have both PS3's still, you at least have options.

This new migrating feature in the newer PS3 firmware lets you copy 'copy protected' saves from PS3 to another, am I reading this right?

[Dogmatic Atheist]

Spuro:



No, it does not. Copy protected files work on the PS3 they were created on *only*.

[Delta_Pizza]

I really hope they remove this at some stage, don't want to lose the amount of time I've put into my Dragon Age characters. I must be in the region of 150 hours or so now.



Another point is that if BioWare decide to make a sequel (which seems likely) then they may have the option to take your save into the sequel like what's going to happen with Mass Effect 2. Even if the characters are not taken across they could still fill some back story with decisions that your Gray Warden made. By the time a sequel does come out there's a good chance that a lot of people will have replaced their console, either because it's faulty or because they want a slim one.

[Creidim77]

Dog is wrong, the new migrate tool DOES work on copy protected saves. But it will DELETE the 'source' file after transferring to the new unit. If you have two PS3s then you are one of the few who have any way at all to move saves currently.

[fooly1cooly]

I did a full back-up of the old PS3 to to an external drive and then restored to the new. No Dragon Age saves. I might do the direct transfer from the old system, but honestly, I'm not interested in this game or any future releases from the dev for a few years. There are a slew of awesome games coming out in a few weeks and I just wanted to wrap this one up before moving onto those. I'll just be playing some else instead. It *was* a fun game, but its the same thing with the last Silent Hill where they refused to allow players to invert the y-axis just for an ego trip.

That said, thanks for all your input.

Modifié par fooly1cooly, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:04 .

[TurismoM3]

Creidim77 wrote...

Dog is wrong, the new migrate tool DOES work on copy protected saves. But it will DELETE the 'source' file after transferring to the new unit. If you have two PS3s then you are one of the few who have any way at all to move saves currently.

Sorry Creidim77, I think you are wrong.  Have you tried doing this youself to be sure.  Because as per the Europe PlayStation Blog you are wrong, believe me I wish it worked that way.

See comments by James Thorpe – PlayStation Network Product Manager
Comments 6,17,27,29 etc.
blog.eu.playstation.com/2009/12/08/ps3-system-software-update-3-15/

Modifié par TurismoM3, 13 janvier 2010 - 02:01 .

[Spuro]

Dogmatic Atheist wrote...

Spuro:

No, it does not. Copy protected files work on the PS3 they were created on *only*.

What if you upgrade the HDD of the *same* PS3, and then do a restore with the backup of the original 'copy prohibited' save files? 

[Sambuque]

Spuro wrote...

Dogmatic Atheist wrote...

Spuro:

No, it does not. Copy protected files work on the PS3 they were created on *only*.

What if you upgrade the HDD of the *same* PS3, and then do a restore with the backup of the original 'copy prohibited' save files? 

The Data Transfer Utility move copy protected save to another unit, those saves are deleted from the source unit and can't be restored to the source unit by any means.

The Backup Utility restore copy protected save to the same unit even if the hardrive has been swapped unless the Data Transfer Utility has been used afterward (Backup older than last Transfer)

Edit: I used the Transfer Utility yesterday and all my saves made the Jump, I launched Dragon Age to see if the lowest framerate I've ever seen was really sku dependent and my save just load fine.

Edit 2: manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/transferutility.html
The online PS3 manual clearly states that copy protected saves are moved.

Modifié par Sambuque, 14 janvier 2010 - 01:58 .

[Spuro]

Sambuque wrote...

Spuro wrote...

Dogmatic Atheist wrote...

Spuro:

No, it does not. Copy protected files work on the PS3 they were created on *only*.

What if you upgrade the HDD of the *same* PS3, and then do a restore with the backup of the original 'copy prohibited' save files? 

The Data Transfer Utility move copy protected save to another unit, those saves are deleted from the source unit and can't be restored to the source unit by any means.

The Backup Utility restore copy protected save to the same unit even if the hardrive has been swapped unless the Data Transfer Utility has been used afterward (Backup older than last Transfer)

Edit: I used the Transfer Utility yesterday and all my saves made the Jump, I launched Dragon Age to see if the lowest framerate I've ever seen was really sku dependent and my save just load fine.

Edit 2: manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/transferutility.html
The online PS3 manual clearly states that copy protected saves are moved.

Ahh, so the data transfer utility can move copy protected saves, at the expense of the saves only being able to exist on one console at one time.  Thanks for that info, now I can think about buying a new slim PS3 instead and move my DA:O saves without hassle.

Do you need to create your old PS3 'offline user account' as well as saving the user information of your online PSN account onto the new PS3 before transferring, so the new PS3 can recognise the save data/trophy data?  Or is that not needed and you can do all that after transferring the old data into the new PS3?  Thanks in advance.

Modifié par Spuro, 14 janvier 2010 - 03:23 .

[Sambuque]

In orderto keep everything, on the source system for each account, it's required to synch the trophy collection, log into home to save home reward (like the Batcave for batman asylum or some t-shirt for street fighter), desactivate the system (for game and video, some protected video aren't transferred but I can't tell you much for that).



Account information are transferred except password,so it's just needed to save accounts password again and to activate the system for each account.

[xjmoneyx]

yes it just plain sucks that they are locked. i just received my ps3 slim today and now i'm frustrated like others are that i can't carry over my saved games between both systems when i want.

[thezipsteruk]

I am absolutely gutted and angry at the same time. I invested so many hours in this game and according to friends was very near to the ending! only to be cursed by my ps3 going pop! no skin off my nose i thought, I back up religously!! how foolish was I! as much as I would love to play the end of the game NO WAY am I playing it all again. you guys and EA (whoever) suck!! are these not MY game saves. bye bye EA / Bioware no way im buying your prodcts again due to your **** regimes

[Lord Gremlin]

Bioware ignores this part of forum. All I know is that save game copy protection can be removed via patch, it's done with several games.

[Lord Gremlin]

Update: not only saves are copy protected, but there is also a LIMIT to them! On PS3, a console with HDD. Come on, what drunken groundhog came up with the whole idea?



No, seriously, whose idea it was? It's so atrocious AND stupid at the same time... Stop hiring groundhogs.