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[rgretret]

 In my opinion we should behave kinder towards Bioware, because they made a highly emotional game after all and just because the ending was disappointing for most of us, it doesn't mean that the rest of this masterpiece of a game was too.

[Naltair]

rgretret wrote...

 In my opinion we should behave kinder towards Bioware, because they made a highly emotional game after all and just because the ending was disappointing for most of us, it doesn't mean that the rest of this masterpiece of a game was too.

This line of thinking is how I handle things but most fans just want to hate everything.  I understand why, but it does sadden me.

I know some people just feel betrayed, it is a tough place for many.

[dreaming_raithe]

Most people I talk to will readily admit that the rest of the game is fantastic. We've been more than honest about that.

The ending is so abhorrent in part because it does a disservice to how great the game (and the trilogy, really) really is.

[Thorn Harvestar]

dreaming_raithe wrote...

Most people I talk to will readily admit that the rest of the game is fantastic. We've been more than honest about that.

The ending is so abhorrent in part because it does a disservice to how great the game (and the trilogy, really) really is.

I agree. Our outcry over the ending is a testament to how captivating their games were. I have never seen a game generate this much emotional attachment.

[SilentWolfie]

Bioware made an ending that is so unspeakably moronic in nature where the basis of the plot is,

Yo dawg, so I heard about some synthetics issue and organics issue, and let's do some inane logic where it insults readers and gamers alike, then blend their milkshake together till it makes no sense. Ho boy. =)

Edit: And uhh, I don't really share the sentiment of the story being super outstanding, there are better stories out there in other games, but it was certainly an epic game in a sense. It's very polished, up until the ending, where everyone gets screwed over because it was so utterly and completely epic fail.

Modifié par SilentWolfie, 26 mars 2012 - 03:30 .

[spartan5127]

I don't think I've seen one person who hates the rest of the game because of the ending. What the ending does is retroactively make you not really care about the past. That is why people have trouble replaying the game because it feels meaningless in a game where everything you do seems meaningful.

Also, EA/bioware is a corporation, it has no feelings to be hurt. I have no sympathy towards them it has no sympathy towards us, but I have sympathy for the individuals. The thing the individuals need to understand is, this is not personal.

Modifié par spartan5127, 26 mars 2012 - 03:30 .

[Talogrungi]

Yup; the quality of the game in contrast to the travesty of the endings is what fuels my disappointment.

[Phobius9]

We haven't experienced the ending of ME3 yet, just the penultimate chapter. Whatever DLC comes after ME3 will be the ending proper. Once that's done, people can judge the Mass Effect series for all it's worth, but drawing conclusions about anything at the moment is like complaining Frodo never made it to Mordor having only ever read the first two Lord of the Rings.

[Nefelius]

rgretret wrote...

 In my opinion we should behave kinder towards Bioware, because they made a highly emotional game after all and just because the ending was disappointing for most of us, it doesn't mean that the rest of this masterpiece of a game was too.

Yeah...
Bioware made us feel emotions about the game and then created the endings that said "screw your emotions, noone cares".
Right..

[WhiteVV1ings]

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

dreaming_raithe wrote...

Most people I talk to will readily admit that the rest of the game is fantastic. We've been more than honest about that.

The ending is so abhorrent in part because it does a disservice to how great the game (and the trilogy, really) really is.

I agree. Our outcry over the ending is a testament to how captivating their games were. I have never seen a game generate this much emotional attachment.

I agree as well. 

[Aesieru]

rgretret wrote...

 In my opinion we should behave kinder towards Bioware, because they made a highly emotional game after all and just because the ending was disappointing for most of us, it doesn't mean that the rest of this masterpiece of a game was too.

They broke continuity everywhere, the ending just showed you where it was all located at.

Then they insulted their community in their defenses.

This is beyond unacceptable.

[nhsknudsen]

If you treat your child nicely up untill age 14 it still doesn't excuse killing it on its 15 birthday.

[Iwillbeback]

No.
However maybe personal attacks on certain people is more well deserved.
Though that isn't acceptable so we should paint Bioware with the 1 brush.

[Naltair]

nhsknudsen wrote...

If you treat your child nicely up untill age 14 it still doesn't excuse killing it on its 15 birthday.

This is a rather extreme and unfair metaphor.

[Naltair]

Iwillbeback wrote...

No.
However maybe personal attacks on certain people is more well deserved.
Though that isn't acceptable so we should paint Bioware with the 1 brush.

Personal attacks are never acceptable, at least in this venue.

[Mr Indivisible]

Lots of speculation from everyone!

[The Smitchens]

You know... I was so thunderstruck when I first saw the ending and I honestly didn't know what to make of it. I jumped on a bit of a bandwagon, but after finally reading into the puzzle that everyone else has pieced together. Yeah. Never thought I'd say this, but I actually like the ending now.

I... I'm so ashamed. Perhaps I haven't been as vigilant as some, but I was cavalier to a reasonable extent (see my signature for proof of that). In all reality... I think BioWare is filled with writers far more creative than I could ever hope to be. I love the game and I love the franchise.

Though I still stand by my previous thoughts that endings shouldn't be held hostage and left out, I really don't think the game's finale would have had quite the impact if they did include whatever DLC they have planned.

[tiger-tron]

I'm going to say it now: whilst I don't think ME3 is as good as the previous two in terms of gameplay features etc, I do think its a BRILLIANT game.

For me, the only game that could come close to this in 2012 is Halo 4, but I still think ME3 will be better. Its the best game I've played since ME2.

That said, the ending was horrible and I don't think we're being harsh on Bioware at all.

Modifié par tiger-tron, 26 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[starscreamerx31]

I just think BioWare is capable of so much more is all. I cannott comprehend how some bugs past qa testing. I dobt understand why the journal took a step back, i dont understand why there is a serious lack of dialouge wheel conversations, i dont understand how the major decision if saving the Rachni queen amounted to nothing as did the war assets. Lastly i hope they blow our minds with the clairity of the endings. I doubt it but i guess we will have to wait and see.

[ergonomalous]

Phobius9 wrote...

We haven't experienced the ending of ME3 yet, just the penultimate chapter. Whatever DLC comes after ME3 will be the ending proper. Once that's done, people can judge the Mass Effect series for all it's worth, but drawing conclusions about anything at the moment is like complaining Frodo never made it to Mordor having only ever read the first two Lord of the Rings.

The idea that bio/ea sold us an incomplete game so they can sell us the ending later is more irritating then just having a lousy ending. If this is going to be a new trend then i am not even going to bother buying their games anymore. Mass Effect isn't an MMO where you can keep selling add ons so we can get the full story.

[FoxShadowblade]

I absolutely hate many things in Mass Effect. The Mako, the Endings, how ME1 characters were treated in 2, how Me2 characters were treated in 3....But I still love every second of the series..until the ending.

The endings don't make me hate the game, they make me hate myself for becoming so massively invested emotionally in them, and they ruin the magic the choices had on making your Shepard.

And that is why the endings must be changed, for Shepard, for the whole series, and by GOD for the little blue children!

[StartOrange]

rgretret wrote...

 In my opinion we should behave kinder towards Bioware, because they made a highly emotional game after all and just because the ending was disappointing for most of us, it doesn't mean that the rest of this masterpiece of a game was too.

When someone promises things they don't keep, they should be held accountable.

It was a great game sure, but tbh I feel they deserve this reaction. You don't lie to your fans and customers, you just don't.

[shurryy]

The rest of the game(s) is fantastic! It's just that the ending destroys my very will to play neither of the three games at all because there is no point!

[MaskofSkin]

I'd be more understanding of Bioware if they, themselves, had not marketed the game dishonestly and specifically lied about the ending,

[Joeybsmooth4]

Phobius9 wrote...

We haven't experienced the ending of ME3 yet, just the penultimate chapter. Whatever DLC comes after ME3 will be the ending proper. Once that's done, people can judge the Mass Effect series for all it's worth, but drawing conclusions about anything at the moment is like complaining Frodo never made it to Mordor having only ever read the first two Lord of the Rings.

That is even worse. We paid for a full game. We should geta full game.