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[Pheonix57]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

QuanManChu wrote...

Well...I bet I'll be hated for saying this...but I'll say it. I wish there was an option to opt-out of exposure to this content. If people want these romance options...fine, their choice. I'm in no way denying them to go this route. But personally, I'd like to have an option to turn off same sex advances. I'm not a fan of it.

I can totally get behind this. I really wanted an option to opt-out of dudes hitting on my femshep.

^ Hell yes. But only if they gave us more FxF romance options, like Gianna Parsini and Shiala. I didn't like Traynor, Liara was more of a friend, and Kelly wasn't a real romance option.

[Eebatsama]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Captain Arty wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

QuanManChu wrote...

Well...I bet I'll be hated for saying this...but I'll say it. I wish there was an option to opt-out of exposure to this content. If people want these romance options...fine, their choice. I'm in no way denying them to go this route. But personally, I'd like to have an option to turn off same sex advances. I'm not a fan of it.

I'm with you, on all fronts.

Fair point to both of you. But let me ask you some follow-ups.

Do you find the blood and gore offensive? Would you like to be able to turn off the blood?
What about Liara/Traynor advances? For that matter, what about ManShep/Liara love scenes, since Liara is out-of-species entirely?

I propose a thought experiment. Imagine you are approached by a gay man at a bar. How do you respond? I would say that I'm flattered but that I'm straight (and also married). There is no way to "turn-off" the possibility that such an encounter would happen in the real world, so how would you react?

GEARS OF ****ING WAR has an op-out of blood and gore. GEARS OF WAR. If people want to op-out of it in ME3, why not?

That's different. You're taking a real life experience and comparing it to video games. I can't avoid that situation IRL because I'd have to answer the guy. If people want to op-out of homosexual content in ME3, why not?

I propose a question to you.

I want incectual relationships in ME3. People who engage in that feel like they're soul mates and are meant for each other. Why can't I have that in Mass Effect 3? We've already opended up a can of worms in this thread, but not another one?

Comparing homosexuality to incest is noooot the correct route to tack my friend.

[QuanManChu]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I like how everyone is crucifying this guy over his comments. The guy said he's okay with it being in the game, he just doesn't want to deal with it.

You people are worse than the zealots on here that condemn homosexuality.

Thank you for that. And if you noticed...I didn't say remove Steve and references to his husband. I just don't see me leading on someone that is homosexual. I am not bashing people of that persuasion. I'm not interested in that lifestyle  myself. And if me being honest gets me hate...so be it.

[luukee]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

luukee wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I like how everyone is crucifying this guy over his comments. The guy said he's okay with it being in the game, he just doesn't want to deal with it.

You people are worse than the zealots on here that condemn homosexuality.

Hey it's alright that these racists are ok with black people in a game, they just don't want to see them (or have any mention of them ESPECIALLY if they are married -shudders-)

See how stupid that sounds?

Okay I have tried to avoid being serious in this thread but this is something that really bothers me. Can we stop comparing racism and homophobia like racism is something of the past? Intersectionality exists.

I'm sorry, I meant in no way to imply that racism doesn't exist or offend you. I just use it, as others have, as a way of showing people in what they are saying (and from experience it has worked)

[Captain Arty]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Captain Arty wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

QuanManChu wrote...

Well...I bet I'll be hated for saying this...but I'll say it. I wish there was an option to opt-out of exposure to this content. If people want these romance options...fine, their choice. I'm in no way denying them to go this route. But personally, I'd like to have an option to turn off same sex advances. I'm not a fan of it.

I'm with you, on all fronts.

Fair point to both of you. But let me ask you some follow-ups.

Do you find the blood and gore offensive? Would you like to be able to turn off the blood?
What about Liara/Traynor advances? For that matter, what about ManShep/Liara love scenes, since Liara is out-of-species entirely?

I propose a thought experiment. Imagine you are approached by a gay man at a bar. How do you respond? I would say that I'm flattered but that I'm straight (and also married). There is no way to "turn-off" the possibility that such an encounter would happen in the real world, so how would you react?

GEARS OF ****ING WAR has an op-out of blood and gore. GEARS OF WAR. If people want to op-out of it in ME3, why not?

That's different. You're taking a real life experience and comparing it to video games. I can't avoid that situation IRL because I'd have to answer the guy. If people want to op-out of homosexual content in ME3, why not?

I propose a question to you.

I want incectual relationships in ME3. People who engage in that feel like they're soul mates and are meant for each other. Why can't I have that in Mass Effect 3? We've already opended up a can of worms in this thread, but not another one?

The point I'm making here is that you seem very upset about an optional gay romance that is quite harmless, but seem fine with blowing Cerberus agents to bits in slow motion. The blowing people to bits is inescapable as the game is designed now, and is, i think we can agree, more destructive to the enemy characters involved. The romance options are just that--optional. It takes multiple dialog points in different settings at different times to initiate them. They are, by design, optional. To opt out requires not special setting, you simply ignore them.

The second point is that I imagine in the real world, you would handle such an encounter maturely. Water off a duck's back. Yet in a video game, it seems to really disturb you.

Modifié par Captain Arty, 26 mars 2012 - 09:26 .

[alek2702]

BringBackNihlus wrote...
If people want to op-out of it in ME3, why not?

If people want to turn off black people in ME3, why not?

Because it's racism and it is not acceptable. Neither is homophobia.

[Huyna]

Nostradamoose wrote...

Thanks, I should go back do my French prayer for the Old emperor Napoleon and his Legacy. I'll do like he did and force down civil rights down your throats.

The only thing he put down my people throats was invasion, death and war. But i bet he did it to
bring us freedom and European values, like Hitler tried more than century after,
Though my barbaric people did not understand his intentions and return thanks, so he  limped back to Paris with remnats of his army.  

Modifié par Huyna, 26 mars 2012 - 09:26 .

[Carlthestrange]

alek2702 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...
If people want to op-out of it in ME3, why not?

If people want to turn off black people in ME3, why not?

Because it's racism and it is not acceptable. Neither is homophobia.

I want to turn off blue people too. *nod*

Oh, and Reapers. Can we turn them off too?

[Nostradamoose]

QuanManChu wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I like how everyone is crucifying this guy over his comments. The guy said he's okay with it being in the game, he just doesn't want to deal with it.

You people are worse than the zealots on here that condemn homosexuality.

Thank you for that. And if you noticed...I didn't say remove Steve and references to his husband. I just don't see me leading on someone that is homosexual. I am not bashing people of that persuasion. I'm not interested in that lifestyle  myself. And if me being honest gets me hate...so be it.

Sorry but he wasn't talking about you. We haven't really bashed you anyhow.

[Eebatsama]

"I'm playing a full paragon playthrough, selecting the upper right option in the dialog wheel every time! Oh no I indiscriminately hit on every single squadmate I initiated dialog with! Solution: go to the forums and argue we should be able to remove gay people from the game!"

Seriously, you initiate Steve's romance by saying "why aren't you staring at me?" Do you even read options before you select them?

[Pheonix57]

If we're choosing all the things we want to opt-out of, then... Can I opt-out of the endings?

[Captain Arty]

Eebatsama wrote...

"I'm playing a full paragon playthrough, selecting the upper right option in the dialog wheel every time! Oh no I indiscriminately hit on every single squadmate I initiated dialog with! Solution: go to the forums and argue we should be able to remove gay people from the game!"

Seriously, you initiate Steve's romance by saying "why aren't you staring at me?" Do you even read options before you select them?

Yup. Except it takes multiple accidental decisions like this in different conversations to actually initiate a relationship. It's like "accidentally" making 5 wrong turns on your way home and then complaining that your ex-girlfriend is taunting you by walking around in a bikini in her front yard.

Modifié par Captain Arty, 26 mars 2012 - 09:31 .

[luukee]

Pheonix57 wrote...

If we're choosing all the things we want to opt-out of, then... Can I opt-out of the endings?

/thread

[billida]

this thread isn't locked yet ?

[Nostradamoose]

Huyna wrote...

Nostradamoose wrote...

Thanks, I should go back do my French prayer for the Old emperor Napoleon and his Legacy. I'll do like he did and force down civil rights down your throats.

The only thing he put down my people throats was invasion, death and war. But i bet he did it to
bring us freedom and European values, like Hitler tried more than century after,
Though my barbaric people did not understand his intentions and return thanks, so he  limped back to Paris with remnats of his army.  

Well I guess you really did not understand my sarcasm.

But you are right in that, while he liberated the French Society quite a lot, that he didn't do much of that in the countries he conquered.


Now people, let's flamboyantly go to the SPA. As I have been declared a (f-word) by some people, I am now forced to become one.

[Carlthestrange]

billida wrote...

this thread isn't locked yet ?

I think even the mods are laughing at this thread.

[ahandsomeshark]

luukee wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

luukee wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I like how everyone is crucifying this guy over his comments. The guy said he's okay with it being in the game, he just doesn't want to deal with it.

You people are worse than the zealots on here that condemn homosexuality.

Hey it's alright that these racists are ok with black people in a game, they just don't want to see them (or have any mention of them ESPECIALLY if they are married -shudders-)

See how stupid that sounds?

Okay I have tried to avoid being serious in this thread but this is something that really bothers me. Can we stop comparing racism and homophobia like racism is something of the past? Intersectionality exists.

I'm sorry, I meant in no way to imply that racism doesn't exist or offend you. I just use it, as others have, as a way of showing people in what they are saying (and from experience it has worked)

Yeah I understand that I just feel like sometimes people don't realize that it's kind of insulting to see your experience/history reduced to an analogy. 

[Stanley Woo]

Okay, this thread has gone far enough. Bans and warnings have been handed out.

End of line.