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Ingu wrote...

Here's four 30 second mp3 samples (since I didn't pay for the recording software :P). If you turn the sound right up, you will hear... 'something'. It's not very clear or persuasive, but perhaps we'll find something once people extract and analyse the actual sound files.

http://www.mediafire...2oagf892xayb481

http://www.mediafire...clp46v4hk7opkdn

http://www.mediafire...acsbp04way7liom

http://www.mediafire...whcolo0w671c8xf


And a wav file:
http://www.mediafire...f2oe7f42x2i9ej4


Okay i listened to the lasttwo sound files. You can hear, subtly overlayed by more human whispers, a more inhuman, gravelly and torn murmur. I'm sure if you inch closer this sound takes over the rest, gets louder- and that's what I mean by a reaper sound.

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I'm sitting in the dream after Tuchanka right now. I'm not hearing most of the reported stuff honestly.

Two things though:

Amongst all the voices that occasionally say "Shepard!" I definitely heard TIM's voice, which is strange because he isn't dead (yet).

And second, I'm standing a few meters away from the kid and the background whispers are cycling in a loop (lasts about 5 seconds, give or take a second or two), at the end of which I can clearly hear someone saying "can't save everybody".

Modifié par dgumb, 27 mars 2012 - 09:14 .


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legaldinho wrote...

RoyalGambit wrote...

Ingu wrote...

Well, just before the kid stands up and burns, if you stop just before the scene triggers, the whispers get extremely loud and overpowering.

At this stage, if you simply stand and listen, it's just a bunch of jumbled, indiscernible whispers.

However if you stand long enough, there does seem to be a 'different' sound or line which appears, that almost sounds like an automated voice.

It's virtually impossible to really make out what it's trying to say, but it does sound a little like 'just kill him', 'just shoot him' or 'don't trust him', it could be anything, but it's there.

I don't know if this was what the op was getting at, but I did hear something.

I did record the sounds, I'll put it up if anyone's interested.


I'm interested. Very much so. 

Once you were there, did you inch closer, perhaps by circling the kid?

The humanity!

I'm sure those sounds develop into amplified lower pitched murmurs. They sounded like harbinger to me, now you make me doubt myself.



Actually, no. I didn't want to accidently trigger the burning flames cutscene and cut of recording. But it'd be interesting to see if that affects it.

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I may be saying something stupid, but the dead's voices depend on who the player got killed, while the other supposed voices as the OP heard would be there all the time, for all the players... Maybe it's mixed in the background music or something else? Instead of being is separate voice files like the dead ppl voice files?

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 OK, still in the Tuchanka dream and noticed some weird stuff.

In my last post I was stading a little bit away from the kid the second time you have to catch him. Right now I'm much closer to him for the third (last) time you catch up to him in this dream.

I've been inching towards him, one step at a time. I started from a distance of maybe 7 meters, and crept up to him and am now standing about a meter and a half from him.

As you get closer to the kid the whispers definitely become much more inhuman sounding. It went from recognizably human sounding voices to... I'm not sure how to describe it. If any of you are fans of Dune (the movie) remember the scene where representatives from the Spacing Guild visit the emperor? The way those guys sounded when they talked (before it was translated by their microphone things) is what this sounds like. It doesn't sound like English, or even human. And underneath that you can hear a voice that is quiet, but isn't whispering. It's saying something out loud, but I can't make it out at all, you just hear syllables.

Really though, the thing that stands out to me the most is how inhuman sounding the whispers become. And they sound far more aggresive and menacing as well.

I'm not sure what to make of it, or if there's any deeper meaning to it at all. It could very well be that they just intended it to sound menacing to reinforce the troubling aspect of the dreams, it is supposed to be a nightmare after all.

Really interesting though, nice find OP.

Modifié par dgumb, 27 mars 2012 - 10:43 .


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Ingu wrote...

Actually, no. I didn't want to accidently trigger the burning flames cutscene and cut of recording. But it'd be interesting to see if that affects it.


It definitely does affect it. I'm almost a little taken aback by how much the tone of the whispers changes as you get really close to the kid (you can get much closer to him for the third meeting than you can the first two). It's... almost unsettling.

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dgumb wrote...

I'm sitting in the dream after Tuchanka right now. I'm not hearing most of the reported stuff honestly.

Two things though:

Amongst all the voices that occasionally say "Shepard!" I definitely heard TIM's voice, which is strange because he isn't dead (yet).

And second, I'm standing a few meters away from the kid and the background whispers are cycling in a loop (lasts about 5 seconds, give or take a second or two), at the end of which I can clearly hear someone saying "can't save everybody".


Did you walk up to all the scattered groups of whisps like we described?

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dgumb wrote...

 OK, still in the Tuchanka dream and noticed some weird stuff.

In my last post I was stading a little bit away from the kid the second time you have to catch him. Right now I'm much closer to him for the third (last) time you catch up to him in this dream.

I've been inching towards him, one step at a time. I started from a distance of maybe 7 meters, and crept up to him and am now standing about a meter and a half from him.

As you get closer to the kid the whispers definitely become much more inhuman sounding. It went from recognizably human sounding voices to... I'm not sure how to describe it. If any of you are fans of Dune (the movie) remember the scene where representatives from the Spacing Guild visit the emperor? The way those guys sounded when they talked (before it was translated by their microphone things) is what this sounds like. It doesn't sound like English, or even human. And underneath that you can hear a voice that is quiet, but isn't whispering. It's saying something out loud, but I can't make it out at all, you just hear syllables.

Really though, the thing that stands out to me the most is how inhuman sounding the whispers become. And they sound far more aggresive and menacing as well.

I'm not sure what to make of it, or if there's any deeper meaning to it at all. It could very well be that they just intended it to sound menacing to reinforce the troubling aspect of the dreams, it is supposed to be a nightmare after all.

Really interesting though, nice find OP.


Thank you :)

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Yep, some kind of robotic/reaper/not geth sound can be clearly heard in this one http://www.mediafire...whcolo0w671c8xf from 0:20 or so until the end.

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JTP117 wrote...

dgumb wrote...

I'm sitting in the dream after Tuchanka right now. I'm not hearing most of the reported stuff honestly.

Two things though:

Amongst all the voices that occasionally say "Shepard!" I definitely heard TIM's voice, which is strange because he isn't dead (yet).

And second, I'm standing a few meters away from the kid and the background whispers are cycling in a loop (lasts about 5 seconds, give or take a second or two), at the end of which I can clearly hear someone saying "can't save everybody".


Did you walk up to all the scattered groups of whisps like we described?


Yes I did, and I didn't hear anything clearly. I heard the background noise of the constant whispering but wasn't able to make out any words or phrases (like the "don't trust him" etc. that others reported), and the obvious louder whispers from dead teammates (the ones that get subtitles).

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"I always have time for you, Commander." is most likely Kelly Chambers. Especially if it sounds somewhat perky.

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This thread deserves a bump.

Erethrian wrote...

Yep, some kind of robotic/reaper/not geth sound can be clearly heard in this one http://www.mediafire...whcolo0w671c8xf from 0:20 or so until the end.


Yeah, I can hear it. The low-ish grindy voice, right? It almost sounds like a voice put through the same filter as Harbinger's voice, then slowed down.

It's a shame I'm away from my desktop for a few days. This has really inspired me to play a NG+. At least until dream 2.

Has anyone tried to replicate the really clear "don't trust him" from that video a few pages back (the one that had it at 1:26)? It seems to me the voices around the kid are most clear if you stop moving the instant you start hearing them. It sounded like only a few voices there instead of the clustered mass when you're really close.

Modifié par KillerHappyFace, 27 mars 2012 - 07:47 .


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JTP117 wrote...

dgumb wrote...

 OK, still in the Tuchanka dream and noticed some weird stuff.

In my last post I was stading a little bit away from the kid the second time you have to catch him. Right now I'm much closer to him for the third (last) time you catch up to him in this dream.

I've been inching towards him, one step at a time. I started from a distance of maybe 7 meters, and crept up to him and am now standing about a meter and a half from him.

As you get closer to the kid the whispers definitely become much more inhuman sounding. It went from recognizably human sounding voices to... I'm not sure how to describe it. If any of you are fans of Dune (the movie) remember the scene where representatives from the Spacing Guild visit the emperor? The way those guys sounded when they talked (before it was translated by their microphone things) is what this sounds like. It doesn't sound like English, or even human. And underneath that you can hear a voice that is quiet, but isn't whispering. It's saying something out loud, but I can't make it out at all, you just hear syllables.

Really though, the thing that stands out to me the most is how inhuman sounding the whispers become. And they sound far more aggresive and menacing as well.

I'm not sure what to make of it, or if there's any deeper meaning to it at all. It could very well be that they just intended it to sound menacing to reinforce the troubling aspect of the dreams, it is supposed to be a nightmare after all.

Really interesting though, nice find OP.


Thank you :)


THANK YOU SO MUCH.

You know, I honestly thought I had gone crazy and really was hearing reapers in my head.

It scares the pants out of you, don't it.

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Erethrian wrote...

Yep, some kind of robotic/reaper/not geth sound can be clearly heard in this one http://www.mediafire...whcolo0w671c8xf from 0:20 or so until the end.


Yeah this is closer to what I heard. By contrast to low volume whispers before, that sound human, there is a steady shift in volume and decrease in pitch. With my 5.1 headphones I guess the bass is so souped up, i nearly cacked my pants. For me, it sounded like harbinger. It was 2am, and I have been both working like crazy and obsessing over ME3, so I'm happy to put that down to exagerration. Still, I would ask for more people to try, particularly circling round the child if that makes a difference. And put it up on youtube! Along with the OP's finds.

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Ok, I went back and checked out dream 2 after Tuchanka. I wasn't able to hear any distinguishable whispers, but my audio's pretty bad. I did notice a noise when I got close to the boy, but to me it sounded like a predator of some sort, maybe a wolf, growling and ripping into... something I don't want to think about. But, once again, my audio and particularly my bass quality are pretty bad. I also noticed that the background whispers got way louder and more aggressive near the kid. When I heard Mordin's voice saying "Someone else could have gotten it wrong" it sounded more sinister than before. Just my findings. :)

One last thing, not sure if this is new info, but I monkeyed around with the audio levels and it looks like the indistinguishable whispers, at least, are under Sound FX, not dialogue or music. Don't know if that will help anyone looking through the actual files, but there you go.

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Lokanaiya wrote...

Ok, I went back and checked out dream 2 after Tuchanka. I wasn't able to hear any distinguishable whispers, but my audio's pretty bad. I did notice a noise when I got close to the boy, but to me it sounded like a predator of some sort, maybe a wolf, growling and ripping into... something I don't want to think about. But, once again, my audio and particularly my bass quality are pretty bad. I also noticed that the background whispers got way louder and more aggressive near the kid. When I heard Mordin's voice saying "Someone else could have gotten it wrong" it sounded more sinister than before. Just my findings. :)

One last thing, not sure if this is new info, but I monkeyed around with the audio levels and it looks like the indistinguishable whispers, at least, are under Sound FX, not dialogue or music. Don't know if that will help anyone looking through the actual files, but there you go.


Thank you for finding that, I'm sure it will help :)

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Anyone wanna oblige the tl;dr in me and tell me if there have been any substantial finds since last night? ;)

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Any new discoveries yet, shame this thread keeps getting buried by the usual boring topics.

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Having spent a large amount of time with earphones making my ears bleed and playing through the Dreams - I swear it sounds like Tim saying things like "don't trust him" etc.

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I wandered around the second dream sequence last night, and it is interesting to go near the 'shapes' in it, definitely heard Ashley and Mordin, not sure what the rest was about.

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Did anyone else notice this... in the first Dream you are fully armed and kitted out, by the last Shgeard is totally unarmed, if the indoctronation theory is right at the inifinate ammo pistol is are presentation of your resolve, is this it being slowly stripped away?

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Maybe - just maybe - the "Don't trust him!" and "Kill him!" voices are not directed at you, the player, but at the Kid/Catalyst? After all, you're out to put an end to the harvest and have been involved in the termination of up to three Reapers by now. And you've entered their dream space? Probably got attuned to it from exposure to Object Rho in "Arrival" ...

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legaldinho wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

Yep, some kind of robotic/reaper/not geth sound can be clearly heard in this one http://www.mediafire...whcolo0w671c8xf from 0:20 or so until the end.


Yeah this is closer to what I heard. By contrast to low volume whispers before, that sound human, there is a steady shift in volume and decrease in pitch. With my 5.1 headphones I guess the bass is so souped up, i nearly cacked my pants. For me, it sounded like harbinger. It was 2am, and I have been both working like crazy and obsessing over ME3, so I'm happy to put that down to exagerration. Still, I would ask for more people to try, particularly circling round the child if that makes a difference. And put it up on youtube! Along with the OP's finds.


Ajfdk;haf. That is incredibly creepy.

I'm still trying to figure out why we can hear TIM in some of the dreams. He's not dead.

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Anyone know which AFC file these sounds are in? I have all the audio unpacked.

This is another IT thing that can go either way honestly... Either Shepard is indoctrinated or it's an all around representation of the weight of everything coming down on him... hearing TIM might not be weird just because he isn't dead, it could be because he seems to have changed.. maybe Shep realizes that or something? I dunno.. 

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Getting my other shep up to TIM base so Ill keep a lookout this time and listen during the dreams. About to import my other shep from 2.