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[Trix-Rabbit]

King Espi wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

I just don't understand those people. There is absolutely no excuse for an adept to carry anything else than a pistol.

Someone's mad they can't get any kills.

Sorry, I'll take my shotgun and SMG while keeping a 180+ recharge rate than listen to someguy telling me I should be using a pistol.

Blame BioWare for making every gun useless. There's only a few guns worth using. Three of them are snipers, two of them are shotguns and one is a pistol. Every assault rifle is garbage and every SMG is garbage.

Vindicator X + Armor pierce + DMG mods at 5 is the best AR in game.  You will have 200% CD and pushes about 400DPS unmodded.   Perfect for stripping shields and quick bursts in between combos.

Carnifex or Paladin use same mods as above.  Scope is not even needed to hit headshots.  CD will be 160% or a little less if you have Rank 1 and dont talent in for extra weight/pistol weight reduction.  One of the better weapons for sure for an AA.

Mantis X/Raptor X/Valiant/Viper sniper rifles, similar mods again.  AA are a range class for sure. If you have enemies on silver and esp Gold close to you(or close enough to use a shotgun even) chances are, you are going to die soon.

Most AA arent even using using stasis anymore and are going for a straight up warp throw combo for big enemies.  Whilst i cant really comment on AA on gold since i really have only done maybe 5-6 completed games with mine on gold. Typically smaller enemies die far too quickly to get combos in packs(and sometimes throw doesnt want to go to that one guy who you already hit warp with).   I personally find it far easier to pair up with a vanguard with bubble or another adept and simply spam throw or warp while the other spams the other component to the combo whilst pounding away at smaller enemies with a pistol or light sniper rifle.

I do however agree that widow/jav/bw/ ect got no place on an adept since in tight spots when people start making mistakes your cd's will FK you.

[FoxShadowblade]

Funny, I've rolled through Gold matches against all factions as an Asari Adept with stasis vulnerability and my lovely Widow III and do better than most and don't get destroyed at close range.

Do I have a rather lengthy background of sniping in video games? Yes, that's why I prefer it.

I make it work, I've seen others make it work. Do NOT ever think you can tell others how to play. I've seen bad players with the "right" set ups wipe the team and goid players with "wrong" set ups carry it. So while you sit here thinking that you are right, I'll be out there proving you wrong.

[We Tigers]

I've run into a few Asari Widows (zing!) lately. What's frustrating is that they universally seem to do one thing, and one thing only: find an isolated spot, cast stasis, and snipe. Period. Doesn't matter if the rest of the team is getting swarmed somewhere else on the map, or trying to take objectives; the sniper adept just sits there, racking up points and not actually helping. From a party composition perspective, it's also a little annoying to, say, swap out of adept to a different class because you figure the asari adept has CC covered, and your team could use a little more firepower.

[MockingAsp]

Cyonan wrote...

MockingAsp wrote...

I used to use a mantis with my asari adept. I thought it was rather effective.

And...you know, cuz at the time, I didn't HAVE a good pistol. Hello? Random unlocks! I'm not doing this with a predator.

You would however be able to get off a decent amount more Biotic Explosions with a Predator and thus do more damage. The Mantis isn't incredibly heavy, but the reload speed messes with the rhythm of Warp -> Throw spam.

That certainly is the case at the moment. However, it wasn't really an option in early and mid levels, since I had sunk most of my points into stasis and fitness first.

Like I said, the carnie/paladin is clearly superior to any sniper rifle for an adept, but it takes a while to get them unless you're just lucky. And yes, biotic explosions are powerful, but when asari start out, they're encouraged by practically everyone to grab stasis first (to trap Phantoms and the like), and so don't have quite that many options.

My asari adept is a damned powerhouse now with a pistol and all powers slinging...but it took time to get there. Until then, you make war with the best weapons you have. And for a lot of asari, that will be a sniper rifle.

Modifié par MockingAsp, 26 mars 2012 - 11:07 .

[FoxShadowblade]

Yeah I feelthe need to clarify I haven't unlocked any other pistol than the Phalanx. I've never even played with the Paladin or Carnifex.

[erikage]

Because of this thread I went to check out what's the big deal with the class. I ended up getting 60,000+ points in 3 silver matches in a row with asari+stasis+black widow/mantis/raptor. Didn't try gold though. There's no way you can complain about someone using a class how they like to. Infact, I thought it was a powerhouse. Especially when you can stasis an enemy across the map with a sniper.

[Kittstalkur]

inblack wrote...

dont tell people how to play their game

Okay. Don't complain on the forums when I don't want to deal with you being a bad infiltrator on Gold.

Rifter7 wrote...

asari vanguard gets away fine carrying a
sniper rifle. their stasis or biotic charge is up again by the time
they've done reloading, so try the class out before you
complain.

I actually support AVs with snipers because damn, the class has like nothing going for it. DV are better at biotic explosions, AVs just get a crappy grenade to go with their should-not-use charge. And they can't even combo off of Stasis reliably with armored enemies in the mix.

CzarViktor wrote...

I run a Drell adept and I snipe. It's
probably the best way to run an adept seeing that adepts don't have the
greatest amount of health and shields/barrier. You probably hate th ones
that can't shoot worth a damn and are raging about it. Just like people
who rage at vanguards who charge/nova.

P.S. IT'S A GAME.

You are now aware that Drell have the least barriers of any of the races, and that race determines your health/shields, not class.

[Feneckus]

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Funny, I've rolled through Gold matches against all factions as an Asari Adept with stasis vulnerability and my lovely Widow III and do better than most and don't get destroyed at close range.

Do I have a rather lengthy background of sniping in video games? Yes, that's why I prefer it.

I make it work, I've seen others make it work. Do NOT ever think you can tell others how to play. I've seen bad players with the "right" set ups wipe the team and goid players with "wrong" set ups carry it. So while you sit here thinking that you are right, I'll be out there proving you wrong.

The thing is, there's almost always a sniper on the team anyway. Who will love you for your bubble. 

But is there another guy who can make life a lot easier for the team and who can create and finish big biotic explosions ? Usually, no. Sure you can mix both, but I think you should maximise the areas that make you unique. That's what having a good team is all about. And you can't do that with a sniper rifle.

[Garland7A]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

 Im tired of seeing Asari Adept carrying Javelin, Black Widow or any High Caliber Rifle with a scope. Seriously your job is blowing thing up with biotic, immobilizing phantom or hunter not popping head

I can be whatever I wanna do

[Shadowstalker79]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

 Im tired of seeing Asari Adept carrying Javelin, Black Widow or any High Caliber Rifle with a scope. Seriously your job is blowing thing up with biotic, immobilizing phantom or hunter not popping head

Why cant an Asari carry a Sniper Rifle. Just because they have biotics and a human soldier dose not, should not mean that an Asari anything should be only one thing or another. It's mutltiplayer and if someone can function as any race, class and with any weapon type... then more power to them.   In SP, you get an Asari elite Sniper team as a war asset. So are you saying they sould not exist because they can also use Biotics?

Modifié par Shadowstalker79, 26 mars 2012 - 11:32 .

[Alamadis]

Personally, I use a phalanx on my asari. I prefer to function as support and as an armor killer. I play it when I'm feeling lazy and don't bother shooting much.

I don't have a problem with sniping Asari's though. Do I prefer them? No. However, if I can only stop a phantom if it's frozen then the allied Asari is the least of my worries. If you're so desperate for biotic explosions then why not do what you're expecting them to do and play around their preferred style? Be a class with warp/reave. Warp the armored target. They throw. Even with a widow the recharge on throw is short. Half your problem is solved. Phantoms, while dangerous, can be dealt with using a variety of other techniques/weapons/abilities.

[Hiero Glyph]

Every race/class is welcome to use any weapon they want, just as I am welcome to kick them from my game.

[Shadowstalker79]

Hiero Glyph wrote...

Every race/class is welcome to use any weapon they want, just as I am welcome to kick them from my game.

yes you are welcome lol. But do you really kick people because they like to play with a race and or weapon set that you dont like or feel dosent help the team? If that is the case, than why dont more people just play reserved games with people or friends they know and can trust (i guess is the word) to play how you want?

Modifié par Shadowstalker79, 26 mars 2012 - 11:51 .

[TheBandit554]

While I agree, I also agree that people should play how they want. HOWEVER, that deos not mean I wont **** at them for being a Vanguard with only a scorpion or an adept with a goddamn revenant. They can use it yes, but not as effective as another class. Most are using it because it has never been open to them before or they are used to that class but that weapon on another class/playthrough.

[Lawli]

Hiero Glyph wrote...

Every race/class is welcome to use any weapon they want, just as I am welcome to kick them from my game.

QFT

[MysticFred]

Lawli wrote...

Hiero Glyph wrote...

Every race/class is welcome to use any weapon they want, just as I am welcome to kick them from my game.

QFT

x2

And, whatever gives you 200% recharge. You only need a wep to fire off a few bullets between combos. As Trix-Rabbit mentioned, modded Vindicator X or a heavy pistol work wonders.
Also, @ OP, I assume the problem is in Gold matches, otherwise...really? Bronze and Silver are a cakewalk, don't see why it would bother you to see an AA sniping. 

Modifié par MysticFred, 27 mars 2012 - 12:10 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Actually, it really works. Use that Stasis bubble to get a bunch of perfect OSOK's with a high-powered rifle, it's a damn good strategy. I've actually felt like Adepts' powers are best oriented to keeping things at a distance since playing it in ME2. By the time the bubble's out, you've probably cooled down anyway.

Firepower is still arguably the most important part of this game, so carrying good guns is paramount to a team's success.

I will say this, though. People who equip only a sniper-rifle in their loadout are nuts.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 27 mars 2012 - 12:58 .

[Phatose]

Except it doesn't work against things without heads. Which are by and large the most dangerous enemies - which means a sniper adept is specced to kill things which aren't all that much of a threat anyway. And unlike Infiltrators, they don't have a huge damage bonus from cloak for dealing with those.


I don't kick for this anymore, but I do pretty much automatically leave the lobby if one of these joins. Not about balance concerns though - it's about the attitude.

Playing an AA sniper is essentially saying "I want to snipe, however my aim is not good enough to snipe. Despite that, I am going to do it anyway."

Not a guy I want on my team.

[TexasToast712]

 Stasis + sniper = easy shooting gallery. STFU and let people play the way they want.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 27 mars 2012 - 01:16 .

[Kittstalkur]

Phatose wrote...

Except it doesn't work against things without heads. Which are by and large the most dangerous enemies - which means a sniper adept is specced to kill things which aren't all that much of a threat anyway. And unlike Infiltrators, they don't have a huge damage bonus from cloak for dealing with those.


I don't kick for this anymore, but I do pretty much automatically leave the lobby if one of these joins. Not about balance concerns though - it's about the attitude.

Playing an AA sniper is essentially saying "I want to snipe, however my aim is not good enough to snipe. Despite that, I am going to do it anyway."

Not a guy I want on my team.

I was actually complaining about this just the other day.

Besides, killing things with single body shots is far easier than expecting your team to not pounce on things half the time.

Nevermind the fact that it takes a minimum of two shots to kill anything with shields or barriers on Gold.

[Phatose]

You know, the same "Let people play the way they want" also covers "Kicking AA snipers", since that's actually part of play too.

[Mendelevosa]

bluedevil99 wrote...

Why in the world would you NOT want an asari adept with a black widow abusing stasis bubble on your team? Either you're seriously overestimating biotic combo damage (esp on gold enemies with armor/shields) or seriously underestimating the black widow in the hands of a skilled headshotter (or actually an unskilled one, since this character is always shooting at stationary targets). That or you're just mad she's getting "your kills".

I think one of his issues is that a biotic carrying very heavy weapons won't be able to properly spam biotics. Though freezing enemies with Stasis for one to snipe does seem like an interesting tactic though.

[silentlaze]

It's funny. I've met a few people that use an asari vanguard/adept using a sniper and are better then most Infiltrator snipers I know. One is even my friend lol.

[Drummernate]

Omg.... Asari Adepts with Claymores = facepalm.

You can only use stasis like once every 15-20 seconds like that.

No excuse for "It makes it easy to kills stuff! Hurr durr!"

[AnthonyF27]

If you're not an infiltrator, you shouldn't be using a sniper rifle. Any class that can do biotic or techo combos is much effective using them than standing there sniping all day.