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[Accism]

I'd like to include "you romance Morinth" as a possible ME2 ending, but it doesn't really count :b

[Heather Cline]

Black Baron no it's not a myth. Both IGN and the official strategy guide put out by Prima both state that there is supposed to be 16 different endings. However we didn't get 16 different endings. We got ONE ending with 3 different color choices and minor variations to make it seem like 16 but was still ONE ending over all.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 04 avril 2012 - 07:21 .

[Saberchic]

Here's a link. Just read the first post as it has a lot of links to what the devs said.

Link
For now, that's all I could find. It's about halfway down the post where Casey talks about the endings. I'll try to find another one if you like.

[TheBlackBaron]

Heather Cline wrote...

Black Baron no it's not a myth. Both IGN and the official strategy guide put out by Prima both state that there is supposed to be 16 different endings. However we didn't get 16 different endings. We got ONE ending with 3 different color choices and minor variations to make it seem like 16 but was still ONE ending over all.

Sorry, if it's not a Bioware statement, it's a myth. Strategy guides - particularly Prima ones - do commonly have errors in them, for various reasons. 

And no, you got three endings, at the very least. Are they as different as I would have liked? Not really, but my personal opinion doesn't change facts.

[hoorayforicecream]

Saberchic wrote...

Here's a link. Just read the first post as it has a lot of links to what the devs said.

Link
For now, that's all I could find. It's about halfway down the post where Casey talks about the endings. I'll try to find another one if you like.

I've checked the interviews with Casey Hudson, and can't find any trace of the number '16' or the word 'sixteen'.

[Heather Cline]

Ok then Casey Hudson said that the endings would be affected by our choices through all three games. He said they would be varying and different. NOT ABC endings that we got. He didn't quote a number but the game guide did. So going with Hudson's interview and the game guide we can reasonably come to the conclusion that the endings were supposed to be roughly 16 in total or somewhere there about. However I shall refute you saying that Prima guides have errors in them. Do you have solid evidence? Also we have 2 sources saying the game is supposed to have 16 different endings. That's 2 sources from two completely different places and also Casey Hudson stating that the game was supposed to have various endings depending on your choices throughout all 3 games.

Since you need exactly stated facts. And there is a link pointing to Hudson's interview stating as such so you cannot refute that. Also as I stated Prima and IGN both stated 16 different endings thus logically speaking and following the information we have the game was supposed to have more than the ABC ending and the stupid color coded ending.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 04 avril 2012 - 07:38 .

[tbb033]

I wouldn't go by anything on that IGN page. They say 2800 EMS opens up the 3rd ending, yet I only had 2 endings available, despite having 2800 exactly.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Heather Cline wrote...

Ok then Casey Hudson said that the endings would be affected by our choices through all three games. He said they would be varying and different. NOT ABC endings that we got. He didn't quote a number but the game guide did. So going with Hudson's interview and the game guide we can reasonably come to the conclusion that the endings were supposed to be roughly 16 in total or somewhere there about.

Since you need exactly stated facts. And there is a link pointing to Hudson's interview stating as such so you cannot refute that. Also as I stated Prima and IGN both stated 16 different endings thus logically speaking and following the information we have the game was supposed to have more than the ABC ending and the stupid color coded ending.

Prima has made wildly off base claims before in their guides. an example of this would be their Kotor 2 guide, which stated somethings that never made it into the final cut. or what about the guide for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich-King in which they claimed that Northrend flying skill would be free when It was not "free". As for IGN, they may started the rumor themselves without citing a source, so I am inclined to doubt their word.

[Faust1979]

Heather Cline wrote...

Ok then Casey Hudson said that the endings would be affected by our choices through all three games. He said they would be varying and different. NOT ABC endings that we got. He didn't quote a number but the game guide did. So going with Hudson's interview and the game guide we can reasonably come to the conclusion that the endings were supposed to be roughly 16 in total or somewhere there about. However I shall refute you saying that Prima guides have errors in them. Do you have solid evidence? Also we have 2 sources saying the game is supposed to have 16 different endings. That's 2 sources from two completely different places and also Casey Hudson stating that the game was supposed to have various endings depending on your choices throughout all 3 games.

Since you need exactly stated facts. And there is a link pointing to Hudson's interview stating as such so you cannot refute that. Also as I stated Prima and IGN both stated 16 different endings thus logically speaking and following the information we have the game was supposed to have more than the ABC ending and the stupid color coded ending.

they never made the claim that the game would have 16 different endings though just that the the endings would be different. Game guides can be wrong you don't have two sources for 16 endings just one that is actually a misprint.

[hoorayforicecream]

Heather Cline wrote...

Ok then Casey Hudson said that the endings would be affected by our choices through all three games. He said they would be varying and different. NOT ABC endings that we got. He didn't quote a number but the game guide did. So going with Hudson's interview and the game guide we can reasonably come to the conclusion that the endings were supposed to be roughly 16 in total or somewhere there about. However I shall refute you saying that Prima guides have errors in them. Do you have solid evidence? Also we have 2 sources saying the game is supposed to have 16 different endings. That's 2 sources from two completely different places and also Casey Hudson stating that the game was supposed to have various endings depending on your choices throughout all 3 games.

I didn't ask about other statements that were or weren't true. I asked about a source for the "16 endings" that people keep throwing around as some sort of rallying cry. Whether there were other broken promises or not is irrelevant. I just want to know where the "16 endings" came from.

Since you need exactly stated facts. And there is a link pointing to Hudson's interview stating as such so you cannot refute that.

In which link does Casey Hudson actually say there are 16 endings? Maybe you can link it to me, I can't seem to find it.

Also as I stated Prima and IGN both stated 16 different endings thus logically speaking and following the information we have the game was supposed to have more than the ABC ending and the stupid color coded ending.

IGN's removed the reference to 16 endings from their wiki. The strategy guide might say it, but as many have pointed out, many strategy guides printed with incorrect information.

I've still yet to see an actual source from Bioware that actually corroborates some promise of 16 endings.

Modifié par hoorayforicecream, 04 avril 2012 - 07:53 .

[TheBlackBaron]

In addition to the above, which sums up the past mistakes of Prima well enough, the game -does- have different endings that are affected by choices. Ultimately it comes down to them adding war assets and pushing one of three buttons that alters the final cutscene, so it's a bit weasel-y, but you cannot legitimately claim, in a way that would stand up under scrutiny in a court of law, that the game did not have at least three different endings that can be affected by past decisions - and maybe even enough variations to arrive at the mythical 16.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 04 avril 2012 - 07:57 .

[Vesji]

IGN were the only ones claiming Mass Effect 3 has 16 endings.
Mass Effect 3 has 6 endings and 2 extra cutscenes.

Mass Effect 2 has 3 endings.
*SPOILER WARNING*

Destruction of the Collector base.
Preservation of the Collector base.
Destruction of the Collector base, but dying.

Mass Effect 1 has 1 ending.

This, however is not an ending state. If we judge by ending state of Shepard, there are 2 ending states in both Mass Effect 2 and 3. (not sure about Mass Effect 1)

"Out in a blaze of glory"
"Lived to fight again"

You can check the ending sates in every save editor.

Edit: Seems IGN has changed their opinion.

Modifié par Vesji, 04 avril 2012 - 08:17 .

[Mr.House]

ME has two endings....

[ObserverStatus]

what are you guys talking about? ME2 has 8 endings.

- Noone left behind, base is destroyed.
- Noone left behind, base is kept.
- Some left behind, base is destroyed.
- Some left behind, base is kept.
- Shepard dies, base is destroyed.
- Shepard dies, base is kept.
- Morinth barbecues Shepard's brain.
- Shepard sits down at the Project for two hours and lets the Reapers arrive.

[AlanC9]

tbb033 wrote...

I wouldn't go by anything on that IGN page. They say 2800 EMS opens up the 3rd ending, yet I only had 2 endings available, despite having 2800 exactly.

Doesn't the IGN page say 7 endings? That's including the fail endings too.

Was the "16 endings" page erased? 

And can someone with the strategy guide post a summary of what it actually says about the endings?

[Dridengx]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I see this number thrown about a lot, but I haven't been able to actually find a source that stated that there would be 16 different endings in ME3. Can someone provide me a source to that claim?

On a related note, how many endings do you consider ME2 to have?

I bought the strategy guide just because I thought it looked cool. It shows you what the 16 endings are. That's how I found out, granted. if I didn't get the guide I would have thought it only had 3 as well. It's a technicality, its marketing, but nothing to get upset over.

Modifié par Dridengx, 04 avril 2012 - 08:12 .

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

AlanC9 wrote...

tbb033 wrote...

I wouldn't go by anything on that IGN page. They say 2800 EMS opens up the 3rd ending, yet I only had 2 endings available, despite having 2800 exactly.

Doesn't the IGN page say 7 endings? That's including the fail endings too.

Was the "16 endings" page erased? 

And can someone with the strategy guide post a summary of what it actually says about the endings?

Lent my copy to a friend, haven't gotten it back yet. darn kids.

Modifié par Blood-Lord Thanatos, 04 avril 2012 - 08:13 .

[YohkoOhno]

I have the guidebook. There are 16 ending listed there. I will post when I get home--although I'm not sure if I should post here because this is supposed to be a non-spoiler forum.

Basically, the EMS score is taken into account, the three end-game choices, and whether or not the Collector Base was preserved instead of destroyed--as that changes what score you need for a certain outcome.

There's two charts listing 8 options based on the numerical score and your choice, one chart for what you did with the collector's base. So, there are 16 endings as defined by Bioware.

Modifié par YohkoOhno, 04 avril 2012 - 08:15 .

[AlanC9]

bobobo878 wrote...

what are you guys talking about? ME2 has 8 endings.

- Noone left behind, base is destroyed.
- Noone left behind, base is kept.
- Some left behind, base is destroyed.
- Some left behind, base is kept.
- Shepard dies, base is destroyed.
- Shepard dies, base is kept.
- Morinth barbecues Shepard's brain.
- Shepard sits down at the Project for two hours and lets the Reapers arrive.

I believe Overlord adds another fail ending, which makes nine. Hell, technically you could break down the endings where some crewmembers died into many endings; is an ending with Mordin, Samara, Thane, and Miranda dead different from an ending with Legion and Zaeed dead?

And there we have it. Since people are using different criteria for what counts as a different ending, they end up with different numbers of endings.

[TheBlackBaron]

AlanC9 wrote...

tbb033 wrote...

I wouldn't go by anything on that IGN page. They say 2800 EMS opens up the 3rd ending, yet I only had 2 endings available, despite having 2800 exactly.

Doesn't the IGN page say 7 endings? That's including the fail endings too.

Was the "16 endings" page erased? 

And can someone with the strategy guide post a summary of what it actually says about the endings?

It was erased - formerly it did say "16 endings". 

Given the ire directed towards IGN lately, I imagine this was the original source of the "16 endings" figure. 

EDIT: And yeah, you can derp in Overlord and the David AI will upload to the Normandy, presumably free from there to infect the rest of the galaxy. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 04 avril 2012 - 08:15 .

[YohkoOhno]

Earth Status Outcomes x Shepards Lives/Dies Outcome x Shepards Three Choices x Collector's Base Status = 16

[AlanC9]

YohkoOhno wrote...

I have the guidebook. There are 16 ending listed there. I will post when I get home--although I'm not sure if I should post here because this is supposed to be a non-spoiler forum.

Basically, the EMS score is taken into account, the three end-game choices, and whether or not the Collector Base was preserved instead of destroyed--as that changes what score you need for a certain outcome.

Thanks. This seems really confused. The CB changes the criteria for getting an ending, but not the ending you get. It works if what you're counting is paths to the endings, not endings themselves.

There's two charts listing 8 options based on the numerical score and your choice, one chart for what you did with the collector's base. So, there are 16 endings as defined by Bioware.

Did Bioware write the guidebook?

[Vesji]

AlanC9 wrote...

tbb033 wrote...

I wouldn't go by anything on that IGN page. They say 2800 EMS opens up the 3rd ending, yet I only had 2 endings available, despite having 2800 exactly.

Doesn't the IGN page say 7 endings? That's including the fail endings too.

Was the "16 endings" page erased? 

And can someone with the strategy guide post a summary of what it actually says about the endings?

Ah, it seems it was changed.
Last time I checked, which was a week ago, it said 16 endings. Oh well.

Still mistaken though, there are 6 endings and two cutcenes. "Stargazer" and "Breath". 
2 ending states, still.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Modifié par Blood-Lord Thanatos, 04 avril 2012 - 08:22 .

[Shelled]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I see this number thrown about a lot, but I haven't been able to actually find a source that stated that there would be 16 different endings in ME3. Can someone provide me a source to that claim?

On a related note, how many endings do you consider ME2 to have?

From the actual games files and biowares mouths?

How many endings ME2 has is irrelevent. They said there would be wildly different endings in ME3. That's a LIE.