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Jayhau wrote...

I can't quote long posts on my phone :(

but Aarak, yes. That is my point. Both sides of the conversation are equally guilty. I believe blame shouldn't be tossed around to anyone until we have all the facts, the rest is just getting people upset and feeding the fire.

I mean we are all gamers regardless of methods. I primarily play on pc, does that make me hate anyone who doesn't use one? Were ps3 fans upset when dark souls was made for Xbox users to play? Or final fantasy? Or whatever! We should be happy to expand communities and get everyone's say involved. Exclusivity and elitism stifles creativity without discussion.

Edit: damn you autocorrect!

hypocrite this is exactly what you said a few pages back:

Invest in an Xbox? Lmao. How is your 5th Xbox working out for you? My 1st playstation says hello and my pc says goodbye.

Even comparing pcs and xboxes in terms of quality is beyond laughable. It's nothing short of sheer fanboyism.

Invest in an Xbox.... Oh man are you an idiot

Modifié par bloodDragon80, 26 mars 2012 - 08:56 .


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Aarek wrote...
PC and 360 communities were the ones who contributed the numbers for the event, due to the data from the PS3 community not being able to be collected.  Bioware rewarded the communities that were involved in the event.

It's unfortunate that the PS3 had to be excluded, and I do hope Sony allows Bioware to collect the player feedback data for the next event.


I know why the PS3 couldn't participate in the event, I'm saying they could have been given the Victory Pack(The one for the community killing 1 million Brutes) anyway even though they didn't do any of the "work".

I could have done 0 work for the event on my PC and I still would have gotten the Victory Pack even though EA knows I didn't play Mass Effect. It would have at least been something for the PS3 users to get from the event, even if technical issues prevented them from actually doing it. We know they can patch packs in/out.

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bloodDragon80 wrote...
hypocrite this is exactly what you said a few pages back:

Invest in an Xbox? Lmao. How is your 5th Xbox working out for you? My 1st playstation says hello and my pc says goodbye.

Even comparing pcs and xboxes in terms of quality is beyond laughable. It's nothing short of sheer fanboyism.

Invest in an Xbox.... Oh man are you an idiot


I guess context doesn't matter? First, it was a response of frustration. Second it was for tossing around blame when all the facts arnt in line. Did I turn around and blame MS for everything? I don't believe I did. 

Not even Dr Samuel Beckett could make that leap

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Not even Dr Samuel Beckett could make that leap

I still catch that show on TV sometimes.  Back in highschool I probably caught every episode at some point during my frequent all-nighters.

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Jayhau wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...
hypocrite this is exactly what you said a few pages back:

Invest in an Xbox? Lmao. How is your 5th Xbox working out for you? My 1st playstation says hello and my pc says goodbye.

Even comparing pcs and xboxes in terms of quality is beyond laughable. It's nothing short of sheer fanboyism.

Invest in an Xbox.... Oh man are you an idiot


I guess context doesn't matter? First, it was a response of frustration. Second it was for tossing around blame when all the facts arnt in line. Did I turn around and blame MS for everything? I don't believe I did. 

Not even Dr Samuel Beckett could make that leap

you bashed the xbox and praised the ps3 and PC it may not be punching me in the face but the fanboyism is there i know i spent time in this god awful fanboy pit:http://forum.ea.com/...6E38E9808A4B482

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I only bought ME3 for ps3 because my gamestop store ran out of collector's edition for xbox. In turn I had to buy the ME2 version for ps3 too, so I could at least have a little of my ME game choices to matter. Last Bioware game I'm buying for ps3. From now on I'll only buy Bioware games for my xbox.

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Just dont do it when it comes only for 'this and this and not for this" PS3 users have paid the same prize, we deserve the same things.... 



Then you should be complaining to Sony about not being developer friendly for such things.

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mrcanada wrote...

Lionheartwolf wrote...

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mrcanada wrote...

-Sony resp quoted as saying it has nothing to do with them and they were in the dark as to the event even taking place.  There are accounts of this all over the forums, here and elsewhere.  Look it up if you choose.

-Adding and taking away packs that all other platforms have had is the same on the PS3, yet somehow it is technically incapable of participating in an event that adds free packs..................sounds like you need to remove your tinfoil hat.


There is also Bioware reps saying they're working with Sony to get around technical issues with the PS3. You don't get to say that Bioware is lying to me but Sony is being perfect and truthful. It's most likely a case of Bioware wanting to do something on the PS3 that Sony isn't allowing but Sony thinks their system is fine and they didn't want to allow it in the first place.

The event also required specific data tracking to see if you should get those packs. They can patch their game and add to it or take away from it is all that is clear, but the event was more than "Here, have free stuff for doing nothing!".


can you find the Bioware rep that said that for me. i have been looking for it for quite awhile. i have only found two things from a bioware rep on the matter, and neither of them have put blame solely on Sony's shoulders.

this is a crappy game of pass it down the line where every last person takes a simple statement and twisting it to fit their argument. nothing that has been brought to this discussion has ever been confirmed by Sony or Bioware so please stop passing it around as fact unless you can provide a source.

saying that they are working with sony does not equal "Sony's fault" and you are just doing a diservice to both the Sony, and Bioware brand name by speculating on things that you cannot back up.


This.  

My conclusion is based off of 2 things in particular.

1-Packs can be taken and added like any others.  PS3 could reap the benefits of the event like the other platforms=FACT.  Also, if it wasn't an exclusivity issue as I suspect it was, why didn't PS3 owners reap the benefits of the free packs like the others?  You will counter with "You didn't participate so you didn't earn it"  I counter with, "Yes, we didn't participate, but that didn't stop them from including us in the past weeks even which directly relates to Operation: Goliath".

2-If security/datamining is the problem, why is the problem fixed in a week?  Seems like it would be an ongoing issue directly related to them not participating in any of the events.  



You are plain stupid.

1. The In-game store and such are on the bioWare side of the equation, no duh they can manipulate it.
where as the datamining would be coming off the SONY side. If it WAS an exclusivity issue...it wouldn't even be out on PS3, EA/BioWare do NOT benifit from selling a game to a group and then cutting them out. They actually LOSE profit.

2. Not ONE PS3 user was part of the dirst event, and unless Sony steps up to the plate, not one PS3 user will be a part of this second event.

Extra info: This mid week thing with the bonus exp? not a datamining event. Its the same situation as the store, they simply bumped the percentage of exp you get from each kill temporarilly,

Use facts, and logic TOGETHER, quit flying off the handle about things you don't even understand.

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bloodDragon80 wrote...

Lime The Dragon wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...

i honestly think ps3 got ME only because of EA being greedy


You got it backwards there.. EA accepted Microsoft's limited exclusivity contract and money, because EA is greedy.

prove it
facts not your BS theories


There's more evidence proving my theory, than Bioware's "claim" of technical issues. Especially when any inquiry made to Sony is met with the simple truth: there are no issues on Sony's end, any issues are on the developer's end.

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Don't blame BioWare.

Blame Sony, it's always their fault.

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Lime The Dragon wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...

Lime The Dragon wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...

i honestly think ps3 got ME only because of EA being greedy


You got it backwards there.. EA accepted Microsoft's limited exclusivity contract and money, because EA is greedy.

prove it
facts not your BS theories


There's more evidence proving my theory, than Bioware's "claim" of technical issues. Especially when any inquiry made to Sony is met with the simple truth: there are no issues on Sony's end, any issues are on the developer's end.


Having the the customer service reps answer isnt that conclusive. Anybody who has worked for a call center knows that the reps only know what they are told and some (not all) will make stuff up. I have worked at a call center where for several key issues, reps from Blackberry blamed the cell phone provider instead of admitting the problem was on their end (such as when RIMs Blackberry server was down or when the Blackberry messenger wasn't working). I have also seen people blame Blackberry for an issue because they didn't want to take the time to troubleshoot the issue themselves. If there were technical issues, the reps at sony would not know unless sony deemed it necessary for them to know.  That being said, it is possible that it is not on Sony's end, but from what I've seen of the company over the years (stretching back to the era of Betamax) I am inclined to believe that it is on their end.

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Ps3 owners shafted again.Nice work bioware.

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dingus4321 wrote...

Ps3 owners shafted again.Nice work bioware.


Nice job on the screen name...seeing as you ARE quite the dingus for not paying attention to the very forum you just posted in. lmao:lol:

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On PC we get outdated graphics, annoying one-button mechanism thanks to the controller using console players. A little punishment is good.

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Oh, and the fault was on Sony's end, not BioWare's.


Bioware defence force in action.

Let us just ignore the huge amount of others games that run similar challenges on PS3. 

Any technical issues Bioware want to claim at the end of the day have been proven to not exist or can be overcome by many other devs for several years now.

This is Biowares fault, they did not put the work in.

Modifié par KylieDog, 29 mars 2012 - 02:34 .


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Rammastus wrote...

Lime The Dragon wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...

Lime The Dragon wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...

i honestly think ps3 got ME only because of EA being greedy


You got it backwards there.. EA accepted Microsoft's limited exclusivity contract and money, because EA is greedy.

prove it
facts not your BS theories


There's more evidence proving my theory, than Bioware's "claim" of technical issues. Especially when any inquiry made to Sony is met with the simple truth: there are no issues on Sony's end, any issues are on the developer's end.


Having the the customer service reps answer isnt that conclusive. Anybody who has worked for a call center knows that the reps only know what they are told and some (not all) will make stuff up. I have worked at a call center where for several key issues, reps from Blackberry blamed the cell phone provider instead of admitting the problem was on their end (such as when RIMs Blackberry server was down or when the Blackberry messenger wasn't working). I have also seen people blame Blackberry for an issue because they didn't want to take the time to troubleshoot the issue themselves. If there were technical issues, the reps at sony would not know unless sony deemed it necessary for them to know.  That being said, it is possible that it is not on Sony's end, but from what I've seen of the company over the years (stretching back to the era of Betamax) I am inclined to believe that it is on their end.



And you're certainly entitled to believe what you want. But all the facts point toward EA, who's had plenty of exclusivity contracts with Microsoft before, having one regarding ME3 as well.

And I wasn't referring to a phone inquirry either, email inquirries, as well, yield the same response.

For those that can't see the blatant truth, let me point out all the facts.

-Collector Rifle: bonus content, received via a special pack, only available to 360/PC users.
-First weekend event: stats uploaded via a feature in the game's programming; rewards received via special packs, only available on 360/PC.
-Said data submission coding is present in the PS3 version, and was even present in the ME2 PS3 version.. it wouldn't be there if it weren't functional.
-Bioware has made it blatantly obvious that the PS3 does not have issues receiving special packs, as all limited-time packs that do not contain bonus content have been available without issue.
-With the occurence of the 2nd event, which did not contain bonus content, it was made obvious that the activation and occurence of events on the PS3 was not an issue.
-Any attempts at contacting Sony will yield the response that there is nothing wrong on Sony's end, it's developer problem/choice.
-Bioware has stated "technical issues," but has not said a single thing about what said issues are.
-Many game developers have stated Microsoft's online service is actually much harder to work with than Sony's online services.
-Any company with a decent PR team would know that admitting an exclusivity agreement, would only function to alienate the majority of their excluded consumers.

On Microsoft's side:
-Removed live gold requirement for multiplayer demo
-Included 48 hour/2 day free gold pass with game.
-Both of the above, and the fact that Microsoft did not include a 3 or 7 day pass, like they have with other games, indicates they're pushing ME3 as a means of getting more live gold subscriptions.
-Having exclusivity rights to ME1, and the ME2 engine, it makes complete sense that Microsoft would try to maintain some level of exclusive content in ME3, since EA would refuse to give them distribution rights, or entire game exclusivity.

All the above points to EA and Microsoft having some sort of exclusivity agreement.

The ONLY "proof" that it's Sony's fault is a Bioware staff claiming "technical issues."

Simply put, I could say Lindsay Lohan gave me a disease, and while she has a shady past, all the facts indicate that I've never been in the same state as her, let alone ever met her. But based on similar presentation as Bioware's "technical issues," since I made the claim first, it must be true regardless of whether I state when I received said disease, how it was obtained, or what disease is actually is.

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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

dingus4321 wrote...

Ps3 owners shafted again.Nice work bioware.


Nice job on the screen name...seeing as you ARE quite the dingus for not paying attention to the very forum you just posted in. lmao:lol:


Was a dig at bioware not ps3 i own a ps3 dumb arse.

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Thank god i bought an xbox 360 in the last 2 years and im loving it

and for those only PS3 owners you get what you pay for

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triforceknight wrote...

Thank god i bought an xbox 360 in the last 2 years and im loving it

and for those only PS3 owners you get what you pay for


We payed exact same as 360 owners.

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And you're certainly entitled to believe what you want. But all the facts point toward EA, who's had plenty of exclusivity contracts with Microsoft before, having one regarding ME3 as well.

And I wasn't referring to a phone inquirry either, email inquirries, as well, yield the same response.

For those that can't see the blatant truth, let me point out all the facts.

-Collector Rifle: bonus content, received via a special pack, only available to 360/PC users.
-First weekend event: stats uploaded via a feature in the game's programming; rewards received via special packs, only available on 360/PC.
-Said data submission coding is present in the PS3 version, and was even present in the ME2 PS3 version.. it wouldn't be there if it weren't functional.
-Bioware has made it blatantly obvious that the PS3 does not have issues receiving special packs, as all limited-time packs that do not contain bonus content have been available without issue.
-With the occurence of the 2nd event, which did not contain bonus content, it was made obvious that the activation and occurence of events on the PS3 was not an issue.
-Any attempts at contacting Sony will yield the response that there is nothing wrong on Sony's end, it's developer problem/choice.
-Bioware has stated "technical issues," but has not said a single thing about what said issues are.
-Many game developers have stated Microsoft's online service is actually much harder to work with than Sony's online services.
-Any company with a decent PR team would know that admitting an exclusivity agreement, would only function to alienate the majority of their excluded consumers.

On Microsoft's side:
-Removed live gold requirement for multiplayer demo
-Included 48 hour/2 day free gold pass with game.
-Both of the above, and the fact that Microsoft did not include a 3 or 7 day pass, like they have with other games, indicates they're pushing ME3 as a means of getting more live gold subscriptions.
-Having exclusivity rights to ME1, and the ME2 engine, it makes complete sense that Microsoft would try to maintain some level of exclusive content in ME3, since EA would refuse to give them distribution rights, or entire game exclusivity.

All the above points to EA and Microsoft having some sort of exclusivity agreement.

The ONLY "proof" that it's Sony's fault is a Bioware staff claiming "technical issues."

Simply put, I could say Lindsay Lohan gave me a disease, and while she has a shady past, all the facts indicate that I've never been in the same state as her, let alone ever met her. But based on similar presentation as Bioware's "technical issues," since I made the claim first, it must be true regardless of whether I state when I received said disease, how it was obtained, or what disease is actually is.
[/quote]

Here is what I found, I highlighted the relevant area:
[quote]Chris Priestly wrote...

Welcome to the next N7 Multiplayer Weekend!

Last weekend our community operatives united to train a record number of new recruits.  The time has come to turn these new recruits into battle-hardened veterans.  

Join the war against the Reapers online between 5PM PST Friday, March 30th to 5AM PST Monday, April 2nd and promote at least 2 characters to your single player campaign.  

This operation includes PC and Xbox 360; we are continuing to work with Sony to enable these types of Operations on the PlayStation 3 platform.  We appreciate your patience, and we expect an update later this week regarding Operation Raptor and the PlayStation 3.

Commendation Packs will be awarded to individual soldiers who complete their training, and a Victory Pack will be awarded to everyone if the Allied Goal is achieved.  Packs will be available to download the following week.  Please note that participants need to set “Upload Gameplay Feedback” to “on” in the online options to be able to participate in Operation RAPTOR.  

*Some restrictions may still apply, Operation Raptor is not open in all regions. 

    
Update: Due to restrictions on the PlayStation 3 platform, we are unable to offer Operation Raptor to our PlayStation 3 users. We apologize for this inconvenience and we will continue to work with Sony to extend our weekend Operations to the community. 



[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

[/quote]

Those restrictions are placed by Sony on a Sony product. That has nothing to do with EA or Bioware.  As for your points about the gold pass..so what, I've received a couple day gold pass in dang near every game I've purchased since I've gotten my xbox. That doesn't mean exclusivity, limited or otherwise. Of course Sony reps will say its on Bioware's end. It takes forever for Sony to admit their mistakes. When they mistakenly were greedy and tried to charge all the movie studios for using the Beta format, they created an inferior VHS, but it was free to use and kept the price marginally smaller than if they were to continue using Beta. When they created the minidisc format (prior to the dvd versions), It rarely sold and ending up flopping. Now there only ones I see are used in camcorders.  As I don't have personal experience, I can only mention what I read about what they did to Star Wars Galaxies. After Sony's patch, the membership numbers dropped increasingly far and fast. That being said, all it's boiling down to is Bioware/EAs word vs Sonys. Untill I see published communications from/to Sony that admits the problem, xbox owners are going to think its on Sony's end and PS3 users are going to blame Bioware.


EDIT: You mentioned that data submission is coded in there, but you don't mention wether or not Sony is allowing all or part of that data to be submitted.

Modifié par Rammastus, 29 mars 2012 - 09:52 .


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bloodDragon80 wrote...

i honestly think ps3 got ME only because of EA being greedy



you missed the boat, you tossed the horse shoe and it landed on grandma's head, you're tardy to the party, a minute late and a dollar short.

this is *precisely* why it happened.

Modifié par TLK Spires, 29 mars 2012 - 09:57 .


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Consoles and their policies are always the problem.

Look at Battlefield 3, a huge patch has been ready for a while, but has been delayed because Xbox and PS3 have a bunch of buearacratic BS that's been slowing the rollouts of it, thus impairing the PC version and so on.

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I still reckon its on biowares end. Till they come out and say exactly what the problem is rather then blaming then Sony.
I should point out I have rang them up 3 times now and asked about and have received one email- they all said there is no reason for the PS3 to be excluded and if there are problems they are on the developers end and not Sony's.

So now we have BW saying its Sony and sony saying its BW- if BW wants to do something productive instead of telling us "you can not participate because of technical limitations on PS3" how about telling us what those limitations are and stop giving us the run around.

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

I still reckon its on biowares end. Till they come out and say exactly what the problem is rather then blaming then Sony.
I should point out I have rang them up 3 times now and asked about and have received one email- they all said there is no reason for the PS3 to be excluded and if there are problems they are on the developers end and not Sony's.

So now we have BW saying its Sony and sony saying its BW- if BW wants to do something productive instead of telling us "you can not participate because of technical limitations on PS3" how about telling us what those limitations are and stop giving us the run around.

look 2 post up incase you can't find it here you go:

Welcome to the next N7 Multiplayer Weekend!Last weekend our community operatives united to train a record number of new recruits.  The time has come to turn these new recruits into battle-hardened veterans.  
Join the war against the Reapers online between 5PM PST Friday, March 30th to 5AM PST Monday, April 2nd and promote at least 2 characters to your single player campaign.  
This operation includes PC and Xbox 360; we are continuing to work with Sony to enable these types of Operations on the PlayStation 3 platform.  We appreciate your patience, and we expect an update later this week regarding Operation Raptor and the PlayStation 3.
Commendation Packs will be awarded to individual soldiers who complete their training, and a Victory Pack will be awarded to everyone if the Allied Goal is achieved.  Packs will be available to download the following week.  Please note that participants need to set “Upload Gameplay Feedback” to “on” in the online options to be able to participate in Operation RAPTOR.  
*Some restrictions may still apply, Operation Raptor is not open in all regions. 
    Update: Due to restrictions on the PlayStation 3 platform, we are unable to offer Operation Raptor to our PlayStation 3 users. We apologize for this inconvenience and we will continue to work with Sony to extend our weekend Operations to the community.  


Modifié par bloodDragon80, 29 mars 2012 - 10:10 .


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[quote]Rammastus wrote...

[qoute]
And you're certainly entitled to believe what you want. But all the facts point toward EA, who's had plenty of exclusivity contracts with Microsoft before, having one regarding ME3 as well.

And I wasn't referring to a phone inquirry either, email inquirries, as well, yield the same response.

For those that can't see the blatant truth, let me point out all the facts.

-Collector Rifle: bonus content, received via a special pack, only available to 360/PC users.
-First weekend event: stats uploaded via a feature in the game's programming; rewards received via special packs, only available on 360/PC.
-Said data submission coding is present in the PS3 version, and was even present in the ME2 PS3 version.. it wouldn't be there if it weren't functional.
-Bioware has made it blatantly obvious that the PS3 does not have issues receiving special packs, as all limited-time packs that do not contain bonus content have been available without issue.
-With the occurence of the 2nd event, which did not contain bonus content, it was made obvious that the activation and occurence of events on the PS3 was not an issue.
-Any attempts at contacting Sony will yield the response that there is nothing wrong on Sony's end, it's developer problem/choice.
-Bioware has stated "technical issues," but has not said a single thing about what said issues are.
-Many game developers have stated Microsoft's online service is actually much harder to work with than Sony's online services.
-Any company with a decent PR team would know that admitting an exclusivity agreement, would only function to alienate the majority of their excluded consumers.

On Microsoft's side:
-Removed live gold requirement for multiplayer demo
-Included 48 hour/2 day free gold pass with game.
-Both of the above, and the fact that Microsoft did not include a 3 or 7 day pass, like they have with other games, indicates they're pushing ME3 as a means of getting more live gold subscriptions.
-Having exclusivity rights to ME1, and the ME2 engine, it makes complete sense that Microsoft would try to maintain some level of exclusive content in ME3, since EA would refuse to give them distribution rights, or entire game exclusivity.

All the above points to EA and Microsoft having some sort of exclusivity agreement.

The ONLY "proof" that it's Sony's fault is a Bioware staff claiming "technical issues."

Simply put, I could say Lindsay Lohan gave me a disease, and while she has a shady past, all the facts indicate that I've never been in the same state as her, let alone ever met her. But based on similar presentation as Bioware's "technical issues," since I made the claim first, it must be true regardless of whether I state when I received said disease, how it was obtained, or what disease is actually is.
[/quote]

Here is what I found, I highlighted the relevant area:
[quote]Chris Priestly wrote...

Welcome to the next N7 Multiplayer Weekend!

Last weekend our community operatives united to train a record number of new recruits.  The time has come to turn these new recruits into battle-hardened veterans.  

Join the war against the Reapers online between 5PM PST Friday, March 30th to 5AM PST Monday, April 2nd and promote at least 2 characters to your single player campaign.  

This operation includes PC and Xbox 360; we are continuing to work with Sony to enable these types of Operations on the PlayStation 3 platform.  We appreciate your patience, and we expect an update later this week regarding Operation Raptor and the PlayStation 3.

Commendation Packs will be awarded to individual soldiers who complete their training, and a Victory Pack will be awarded to everyone if the Allied Goal is achieved.  Packs will be available to download the following week.  Please note that participants need to set “Upload Gameplay Feedback” to “on” in the online options to be able to participate in Operation RAPTOR.  

*Some restrictions may still apply, Operation Raptor is not open in all regions. 

    
Update: Due to restrictions on the PlayStation 3 platform, we are unable to offer Operation Raptor to our PlayStation 3 users. We apologize for this inconvenience and we will continue to work with Sony to extend our weekend Operations to the community. 



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Those restrictions are placed by Sony on a Sony product. That has nothing to do with EA or Bioware.  As for your points about the gold pass..so what, I've received a couple day gold pass in dang near every game I've purchased since I've gotten my xbox. That doesn't mean exclusivity, limited or otherwise. Of course Sony reps will say its on Bioware's end. It takes forever for Sony to admit their mistakes. When they mistakenly were greedy and tried to charge all the movie studios for using the Beta format, they created an inferior VHS, but it was free to use and kept the price marginally smaller than if they were to continue using Beta. When they created the minidisc format (prior to the dvd versions), It rarely sold and ending up flopping. Now there only ones I see are used in camcorders.  As I don't have personal experience, I can only mention what I read about what they did to Star Wars Galaxies. After Sony's patch, the membership numbers dropped increasingly far and fast. That being said, all it's boiling down to is Bioware/EAs word vs Sonys. Untill I see published communications from/to Sony that admits the problem, xbox owners are going to think its on Sony's end and PS3 users are going to blame Bioware.


EDIT: You mentioned that data submission is coded in there, but you don't mention wether or not Sony is allowing all or part of that data to be submitted.[/quote]





So if it is Sony's client side that is the issue,  why did the company say in interviews on IGN and Game Informer that all 3 platforms would have an equal gaming experience?  (Besides the obvious game save issue since Mass Effect was not on PS3)  Don't tell me I am going to get the same game,  then after you take my money tell me "sorry,  Sony's online set up doesnt allow for you to participate."  You mean the same setup it has had since its inception?  Such BS on both ends.  

Modifié par Bigjosh951, 29 mars 2012 - 10:10 .