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[darrylzero]

I enjoy picking a name, but I'd rather have a good first name than be called Hawke all the time. I really liked the last names in DAO (and most of the names in DA2) just fine, though, and I like the last name Shepard too. So, I'm willing to assume Hawke was just unlucky. Guess that means I'd rather pick my own first name and let them call me by my last.

[seraphymon]

i find it amazing that many of the people that like having someone voice THEIR character, dont want to have a first name automatically given to them, because it makes it less THEIR own.

[katiebour]

 Just as long as my LI calls my protagonist by a pet name, I'm happy.  As a player I melted when Anders said "Nobody's going to lock me up, sweetheart, not even you."
Just that little endearment....ngl.  Similar to Zevran's "Si, amor?"

Beyond that I don't mind the title/last name.

[AkiKishi]

I think naming the character fully could be a good way to get people over the idea that the character is theirs. If that is the intention of course.
You could still choose what they looked they, because that has no impact on the game at all and does not need to be acknowledged in any way.

Something closer to Adam Jensen would work for me. The way different characters in different situations refer to him make for a more natural sounding conversation and better VA all around.

[staindgrey]

I much prefer the unmentioned first name route. Plus it's funny when Bioware addresses it in-game, like how Hawke admitted that "somebody put far too much thought into my name", or when Dr. Chakwas explains why she'll never call Shepard anything other than "Commander Shepard".

They also use some clever tricks to avoid needing to use a name, like in the Shepard/Liara romance scene:

Shepard: I love you, Liara T'Soni.
Liara: I... I love you, too.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Blastback wrote...

If I remember correctly, the codex used your first name.  That was quite possibly my favorite realisation in the demo.

There's something off-putting about having a Codex entry based on your own character. Like stumbling across a  biography with your name on it.

[YooperLaw]

I like the idea of a nickname that someone mentioned ... it still is kind of like a title (i.e. "Warden") but it could be customizable depending on the player's actions in the early part of the game. For example, during the introduction level (i.e. tutorial as it usually is) the player makes some choices. They could make a heroic choice, a ruthless choice, an indecisive choice, etc. And given the context of the situation that action (or lack thereof) is made, the nickname could be given by the player's companion(s) which then the rest of the party, and those close to the player character, would use. The vast majority of the world would still call the player by their last name or title, but the nickname would give a little bit of customization to the player and give characters close to the player something more personal to call them.

I think just letting the player pick from a list of predetermined first names during character creation would be easier from a development standpoint, but who knows. Nevertheless, there's some good discussion going on in here which is heartening to see.

[AkiKishi]

YooperLaw wrote...

I like the idea of a nickname that someone mentioned ... it still is kind of like a title (i.e. "Warden") but it could be customizable depending on the player's actions in the early part of the game. For example, during the introduction level (i.e. tutorial as it usually is) the player makes some choices. They could make a heroic choice, a ruthless choice, an indecisive choice, etc. And given the context of the situation that action (or lack thereof) is made, the nickname could be given by the player's companion(s) which then the rest of the party, and those close to the player character, would use. The vast majority of the world would still call the player by their last name or title, but the nickname would give a little bit of customization to the player and give characters close to the player something more personal to call them.

I think just letting the player pick from a list of predetermined first names during character creation would be easier from a development standpoint, but who knows. Nevertheless, there's some good discussion going on in here which is heartening to see.

I recall you could be called Arse Face in Fable. Being addressed as Lord Arse Face was frankly hillarious.

[Nurot]

Wulfram wrote...

I'd dislike it. Naming the character is part of making the character mine, and the character being mine is important to making me care about the game.

And it helps keep them seperate from each other.

This, very much!

I always use my characters' first names when talking about them or thinking about them. It would be weird if I couldn't name them myself. They are all different in personality and looks so I don't want them all to have the same name and sometimes the preset names are really bad (like Garret). I don't mind at all that the game only uses their last name. It is just a limitation of the medium.

Also, it is not uncommon to call your friends by their last name. Sometimes the last name becomes the nickname. When I went to school, half my class mates (especially the boys) were called by their last names.

[Nurot]

seraphymon wrote...

i find it amazing that many of the people that like having someone voice THEIR character, dont want to have a first name automatically given to them, because it makes it less THEIR own.

I am amazed by the fact that peolpe can't roleplay their characters if they can't make up their own voices in their head. I guess we both have some figuring out to do.

[Tirigon]

If games needs voice acting. than your character needs a first name.

Liara calling Shep with his lastname even during sex? Eh.... Not cool.



Edit: Come to think of it, I would be fine though if we had an option to treat our followers the same way.

Liara is only T'Soni from now on, Garrus is Vakarian, Tali is Normandy and Wrex is.... welll... Big Bad Krogan.

Modifié par Tirigon, 27 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[BubbleDncr]

I will always prefer to give them their own first name.

But here's some ideas:

1) If the game is set up in a way where companions send you letters (like in ME3 when they wanted to talk - something they also could have done in DA2 instead of giving you a quest whenever someone wanted to talk) - those letters could have your first name in them.

2) Have some companions give you nicknames - they only have to pop up every once in a while, so it may be simple enough if the nickname is based on something you did/didn't do when you first met, or maybe a trait you have (they give a warrior a different nickname than a mage). It was a small thing in ME3, but it was so cool to me that Vega called me Lola the whole game cos I told him it was ok, but other people told him it wasn't, and he never called them that again.

3) Just don't have love interests call you by your last name/title outside of formal occasions - I believe DA has done a much better job with this than ME did - I think Anders and Alistair always called me, "my love" or "dearest."

[dsl08002]

Is it possible that they can create the program that can recognize the letters in your first name and that can do there best to pronounce it.

It sounds stupid yes but if it is possible then why not. Mind you you are going have to be serious with the name

[schalafi]

In DA2 you could pick serrah and messire and you'd be called by your name much more often. :- )

[Tirigon]

dsl08002 wrote...

Is it possible that they can create the program that can recognize the letters in your first name and that can do there best to pronounce it.

It sounds stupid yes but if it is possible then why not. Mind you you are going have to be serious with the name

I would call all males Huge**** and all females bigtit.:devil::devil:

[beank]

Ive always wondered how complicated it would be to have something where you type the pronunciation of the name or say it into a microphone (or Kinect) and have the dialogue pull from that.

I think something like that would be pretty cool....

But if it came down to it, I could deal with a list of names/nicknames....

[element eater]

i would be upset if they took away my naming rights at this point it feels like its all i have left with which i can have true control for my character in the DA franchise

How may I live without my name? I have given you my soul; leave me my name!

Modifié par element eater, 27 mars 2012 - 10:51 .

[seraphymon]

Nurot wrote...
I am amazed by the fact that peolpe can't roleplay their characters if they can't make up their own voices in their head. I guess we both have some figuring out to do.

Because like name it makes it less our own. Besides or side from that its all about costs:content ratio in a game when using a main voice or not.

The point is people seem to like somethat takes away from it being theirs, but dont like it for something else that does the same thing. That really isnt all that important.

Modifié par seraphymon, 27 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[NugWrangler]

Being called by a last name, nickname, or title never bothered me. I like naming my own character and would prefer they keep it that way. Each of my characters feel like distinct individuals. I think some of that individuality would be lost if, for example, each one was just a new Marian. It's a small thing, but it matters.

I wouldn't completely hate it if they changed to a preset name, but I can't see it making the game any more enjoyable for me.

[David Gaider]

I imagine that while, for some, giving the character a first name wouldn't be a big issue, for others it would be crossing yet another line towards set protaganist. How much that first name is actually used probably doesn't matter so much as the idea behind it. Whether choosing from a list would amerliorate that, I'm not sure. For those who prefer to pick their own name, probably not... and those are the people you'd be trying to appease by creating that list in the first place, no?

I don't know. I find it tougher, in a medieval setting, to justify calling someone by a last name-- titles are easier, when they exist, but with close friends or love interests it seems a bit awkward even then. Nicknames would work, but that's not really very different.

Thoughts on the topic are certainly welcome.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Ahriman is my suggestion. Ahriman d'Arnes.

[staindgrey]

David Gaider wrote...

I imagine that while, for some, giving the character a first name wouldn't be a big issue, for others it would be crossing yet another line towards set protaganist. How much that first name is actually used probably doesn't matter so much as the idea behind it. Whether choosing from a list would amerliorate that, I'm not sure. For those who prefer to pick their own name, probably not... and those are the people you'd be trying to appease by creating that list in the first place, no?

I don't know. I find it tougher, in a medieval setting, to justify calling someone by a last name-- titles are easier, when they exist, but with close friends or love interests it seems a bit awkward even then. Nicknames would work, but that's not really very different.

Thoughts on the topic are certainly welcome.

I would agree that it would be another step toward a "set protagonist", which is one of the complaints against Hawke's character that I usually see. I, for one, enjoyed the deeper characterization of Hawke due to a set family and history, but I also see the appeal of multiple origins with less involved personal histories. It's a personal preference sort of thing.

As for using first names... I get over it. Yeah, everyone calls Hawke "Hawke", even your LI. Which is even funnier considering there's another in your party with the same last name, who goes by his/her first name. But it's something that's ignorable, and can even add some humor when the writing becomes self-aware. I forget the exact wording, but when Hawke says that "somebody thought way too long on my first name", I cracked up.

Modifié par staindgrey, 28 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[Brockololly]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
There's something off-putting about having a Codex entry based on your own character. Like stumbling across a  biography with your name on it.

Which is why I love how the codex/journal works in The Witcher 2- all of the entries are written from the perspective of Dandelion, so they're all terribly biased.

David Gaider wrote...

I imagine that while, for some,  giving the character a first name wouldn't be a big issue, for others it
would be crossing yet another line towards set protaganist. How much  that first name is actually used probably doesn't matter so much as the  idea behind it. Whether choosing from a list would amerliorate that, I'm not sure. For those who prefer to pick their own name, probably not...  and those are the people you'd be trying to appease by creating that  list in the first place, no?

I don't know. I find it tougher, in a medieval setting, to justify calling someone by a last name-- titles  are easier, when they exist, but with close friends or love interests it seems a bit awkward even then. Nicknames would work, but that's not  really very different.

Thoughts on the topic are certainly welcome.

Unless the first name was used a lot, I wouldn't like it really. Being able to choose a name and have character creation tools are some of my favorite things things in starting up any RPG and once you cut those out , its really making a purely third person narrative, which the voiced PC pretty much does anyway.

If you were to have a fixed voice and fixed name, I'd say go all the way at that point and have a fixed look too- like Geralt or Adam Jensen or Mike Thorton. I'm ok with those more fixed protagonists in those games but the middle ground of semi-customization that ME and DA2 have doesn't do much for me.

But naturally, I prefer a more blank slate player character like Origins allowed, with the ability to have a more first person narrative with just the last name being supplied and maybe some title or have characters give you a nickname or something.

I mean, thats one thing that bugged me in DA2 when you'd have the references to the Warden- the import data carries what Origin the Warden was so why not use the Warden's respective last name more? Or just in general in Origins, why didn't people call you Lord Cousland or whatever instead of just "The Warden"? Probably cost limitations and so forth with the VO but... yeah...

Modifié par Brockololly, 28 mars 2012 - 04:22 .