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[Takamori The Templar]

David Gaider wrote...

I imagine that while, for some, giving the character a first name wouldn't be a big issue, for others it would be crossing yet another line towards set protaganist. How much that first name is actually used probably doesn't matter so much as the idea behind it. Whether choosing from a list would amerliorate that, I'm not sure. For those who prefer to pick their own name, probably not... and those are the people you'd be trying to appease by creating that list in the first place, no?

I don't know. I find it tougher, in a medieval setting, to justify calling someone by a last name-- titles are easier, when they exist, but with close friends or love interests it seems a bit awkward even then. Nicknames would work, but that's not really very different.

Thoughts on the topic are certainly welcome.

Preset list its an option
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Should look into sound effects to try to replicate the name (http://www.loquendo....ctive-tts-demo/)you basically type something and he says the name, see if its possible to apply it in game in a decent way.

Nicknames like you said , but having everyone nicknaming its awkward too...But its a step up too.

maybe.... call the PC for his initials ( though the idea is silly even for me).

Yeah its all dependable in VA sadly

[GodWood]

I'd honestly have no issue with it at this point.

It's clear the devs have no desire to have the DA series actually fulfill its promise of being a throwback to old RPGs but rather an action game where you choose your gender, who you side with and who you ****.

So really at this point they should stop dicking around and stop holding onto concepts that are clearly not part of their vision and just create a cinematic action game with a defined protaganist where you can choose if he bangs A, B or C and whether he supports faction X or Y.

Modifié par GodWood, 12 avril 2012 - 02:03 .

[Lucy Glitter]

I would prefer a choice of one of three/four names instead of a set name. What's if it's a name I hate? What if it's my ex's name? What if it's the name of my recently passed cat? You just can't rule that shiz out.

edit:

"Ser Paula! You must save our lands from destruction!" 
"Paula? That was the name of my puppy who just got run over... T.T"

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 12 avril 2012 - 02:40 .

[Nefla]

Intimates should just give you a nickname...like honey-badger!

[LolaLei]

Nefla wrote...

Intimates should just give you a nickname...like honey-badger!

Or ******-kitten!

[Nefla]

LolaLei wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Intimates should just give you a nickname...like honey-badger!

Or ******-kitten!

Or Stumps McCoy!

[meanieweenie]

I liked that Varric had a nickname for everyone. I'm in agreement that your LI should have a pet name for you. It can be something generic but would still give a feeling of intimacy that you wouldn't necessarily share with the rest of your group.

[LolaLei]

Nefla wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Intimates should just give you a nickname...like honey-badger!

Or ******-kitten!

Or Stumps McCoy!

Beefy Mchugelarge!

[Takamori The Templar]

We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese!
I think we should stop for now before the admin says that we are derailing the thread :x

[LolaLei]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese!
I think we should stop for now before the admin says that we are derailing the thread :x

LOL! Ok, ok we'll stop now.

[BubbleDncr]

I may have already posted in this thread and forgot, but here's my thought.

I like the idea of nicknames. I think it would be cool if your companions, after getting to a certain affection/friendship level, would occasionally call you something based off something you did either earlier in the story, or your character creation. The easiest, most obvious examples would be to call you "Blondie" or "Red" if you had blonde or red hair, but there's probably some nicknames people could come up with based on whatever your highest stat is.

[Indoctrination]

I'd rather not have a set in stone first name. With that said, when your close friends only address you by your last name, it's awkward. Nicknames are nice. If the character has some title of note, having characters address you by your title would fit in well too, I think.

[Nyctyris]

Nicknames would probably only work once. It would be weird if every RPG ever from now on had good friends calling you by nicknames. I find it wierd anyway that no one ever refers to your first name or asks about it in these games.

I can also see both sides but I guess my feeling is that it depends on what the devs want to focus on. For immersion, giving the character a name that fits with the setting/race/etc will probably work better, but if player agency is a bigger factor then leave it as is with last names.

My personal preference would be having a set name. I think immersion is more important, it makes the character easier to identify with, and "nameless heroes" really only work best with games like Skyrim which don't have focused stories. I think as long as the basic elements of RPG choice are there, and as long as RPGs continue to favour VA'd protagonists, people would probably adjust to having a set name, after the initial round of complaints and hysteria. Adam Jensen has a set name and most people seem pretty happy with that.

Not a fan of the idea to have a list of names, though. It's just as likely to upset players who don't like any of the names and seems like a lot of extra work for not much gain... idk.

alternatively it depends on the game. you could have a game where a character (say a spy or something) has a "real" name, but uses pseudonyms (like JC in Deus Ex), or perhaps in a fantasy setting has a "young" name but gains a "grown up" name later on or w/e.

Modifié par Nyctyris, 15 avril 2012 - 12:52 .

[SmokePants]

How about:

First name: Predefined, uni-sex (casual address)
Last Name: Player-customized (ignored)
Title: Predefined (formal address)

[Dakota Strider]

How about: Personalized DLC. If you really want your first name vocalized in the game by voice actors, you can purchase a DLC in which each voice actor speaks your name into a recording device, Then, this recording is inserted into the game, and is used when appropriate.

Limitations:   obviously people could not request vulgar/obscene names. Would probably have to restrict the names to a certain length, or number of syllables, to make sure it is pronounceable.

If this is something the consumer really wants, and enough people would buy it, I believe it would be cost effective for Bioware/EA to implement. Meaning they could make a profit off of it. Which is fine, if this is what fans want.

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 16 avril 2012 - 01:05 .

[Nyctyris]

Having a character who has a set last name, which everyone in the universe uses instead of a firstname, is functionally the same as having a character with a set first name, because the first name is irrelevent and might as well not exist. The only difference being that you get called something weird like Baldwin instead of Jon or w/e.

So I'd be in favour of what SmokePants says - swap it around and make the first name set, the last name player choice, that way it would have the same amount of player agency as the other way around but make more sense and be more immersive.

Modifié par Nyctyris, 16 avril 2012 - 03:35 .

[SgtElias]

Dakota Strider wrote...

How about: Personalized DLC. If you really want your first name vocalized in the game by voice actors, you can purchase a DLC in which each voice actor speaks your name into a recording device, Then, this recording is inserted into the game, and is used when appropriate.

I can't see that ever happening, though I admit I'd be the first in line to purchase it. I have no idea what the running cost of a voice actor for a game is, and also no idea what exactly would be involved with inserting a given name into a particular spot in a game, but if it were feasable I assume that it would have already been brought up. I might be misunderstanding exactly how much things such as these cost, but I imagine it would be an ungodly amount of money to do this, even with orders and the like.

As I stated, that's not to say that I wouldn't buy it. I absolutely would. I put a great deal of value on the first names of my characters, who I usually choose with great care. So for me this would be a dream come true, and would help me gain immersion almost instantly.

But as to the topic: No, I'd personally really dislike a set first name. I'm not sure why a set last name or a title is fine and a first name is not, but for some reason it'd be a huge immersion breaker for me.

As to nicknames, well, I admit I like those. Even generic ones.

But you know, Bioware, if you wanted to actually do any personalized naming, well, I'm on-board.

Modifié par SgtElias, 17 avril 2012 - 07:30 .

[Foolsfolly]

David Gaider wrote...

I imagine that while, for some, giving the character a first name wouldn't be a big issue, for others it would be crossing yet another line towards set protaganist. How much that first name is actually used probably doesn't matter so much as the idea behind it. Whether choosing from a list would amerliorate that, I'm not sure. For those who prefer to pick their own name, probably not... and those are the people you'd be trying to appease by creating that list in the first place, no?

I don't know. I find it tougher, in a medieval setting, to justify calling someone by a last name-- titles are easier, when they exist, but with close friends or love interests it seems a bit awkward even then. Nicknames would work, but that's not really very different.

Thoughts on the topic are certainly welcome.

Well as far as Shepard and Hawke go... since they're always called Shepard and Hawke that's their name to me. The first name I do put in way too much thought on when I create a character but it's mostly just so I know which save belongs to which character. Which helps with imports.

That's its primary function to me.

Then again I'm fine with Obsidian's Mike Thorton being a set name and face allowing the player control of his actions, words, and personality instead of face, race, gender, and name.

Although I wouldn't have minded a Michelle Thorton option, ya know?

[Zexiv]

I like the option of if you select a preset name from the list given for gender that the voice would be used and for those that wanted to choose to make a name not in the list a generic nickname would be used instead. Thinking about it the nickname or S.O. name isn't so bad anyways the only time I hear my first name from my wife I'd probably not want to hear whatever else was going to follow it.  

Modifié par Zexiv, 17 avril 2012 - 08:25 .

[Blight Nug]

i read thru the first two pages and saw a bunch of naive and unpractical ideas.
sorry but technology has its limits and there is limited effort to be spent on game development.
I find it perfectly fine that my character is addressed by his last name or title.
I also wouldn't mind having some nicknames based on my own choice or in game decisions.
But i do not want to be given a first name nor do i want bioware to record 1000 names for me to choose from.

[Night Dreams]

I think this is overall quite a clever idea and I probably wouldn't mind it at all. There's always going to be complaints about a lack of 'good names,' however, so it would be a risky endeavour.

[Nefla]

Past joking aside, I really do like the idea of nicknames. Most people still call your character by their last name, but those close to you call you by a nickname that fits your choices/personality/whatever.