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[kmujo]

Okay, so i've had 2 play throughs with a 21 Dwarf Warrior / 23 Elf Mage; and i've done all possible side-quests and premium content, but still 2-3 levels away from being able to achieve max level. im on my 3rd playthrough and playing on nightmare, hoping to get more XP, but does it calculate difference depending on the difficulty or is it just lack of content depending on which origin you wish to play from?

[mian52]

It's been stated that it is impossible without "cheating". By Developpers.



"Cheating" is using ether the Grey Warden blood exploit in Ostragar, wich I consider cheating since it lets you turn a quest in as many times as you want.



The other "cheat" is turning in infinite elfroot for the Dalish Elf allies, there's also an infinite gold cheat as well.



I can't honestly consider ether of these cheats. The first is a bug, so falls under "exploits". However the second is just plain bad game design/oversight on the part of the coders who did this.

[LadyKarrakaz]

mian52 wrote...

It's been stated that it is impossible without "cheating". By Developpers.

"Cheating" is using ether the Grey Warden blood exploit in Ostragar, wich I consider cheating since it lets you turn a quest in as many times as you want.

The other "cheat" is turning in infinite elfroot for the Dalish Elf allies, there's also an infinite gold cheat as well.

I can't honestly consider ether of these cheats. The first is a bug, so falls under "exploits". However the second is just plain bad game design/oversight on the part of the coders who did this.

What is that blood exploit in Ostagar? Never heard about it. 

[Gaviteros]

Indeed, my 'lvl' 25 is through console codes because I was testing things with the tool set and wanted to see some of the maximum statistic stuff a character can get.



With more DLC lvl 25 will likely be possible, but even on nightmare you aren't going to get there with what is in the game now without using exploits or the console.

[Nooneyouknow13]

You hit level 25 "naturally" if you do Orzammar first I'm certain.

You'd also easily have enough gold to donate to Redcliffe if you were a dwarf noble and made sure to vendor junk to Gorim.

Modifié par Nooneyouknow13, 02 décembre 2009 - 12:27 .

[levigarrett]

some of the origins give a ton more exp than others. I noticed that i was a much higher level coming out of the longer ones, like dwarf noble than others.



In addition, the codex belt that you can buy gives almost a level by the end of the game if you buy it right after lothering.

[Sylvius the Mad]

You could also hit max level by playing Warden's Keep and then disabling the DLC - then re-enabling the DLC and doing Warden's Keep a second time.

[Sylvius the Mad]

levigarrett wrote...

some of the origins give a ton more exp than others. I noticed that i was a much higher level coming out of the longer ones, like dwarf noble than others.

I got the most XP out of the Mage origin.

[andybuiadh]

Purple Lady wrote...

mian52 wrote...

It's been stated that it is impossible without "cheating". By Developpers.

"Cheating" is using ether the Grey Warden blood exploit in Ostragar, wich I consider cheating since it lets you turn a quest in as many times as you want.

The other "cheat" is turning in infinite elfroot for the Dalish Elf allies, there's also an infinite gold cheat as well.

I can't honestly consider ether of these cheats. The first is a bug, so falls under "exploits". However the second is just plain bad game design/oversight on the part of the coders who did this.

What is that blood exploit in Ostagar? Never heard about it. 

When you have the quest from Duncan to go into the wilds for the Vials of Darkspawn Blood and to retrieve the scrolls, get the blood and return to Duncan and tell him that you have the blood but have not found the scrolls yet, he will let you keep the blood but send you back to find the scrolls, you get XP for the quest and as you retain the blood you can do it again and again.

Yes i tried it! I'm so ashamed.

[kmujo]

well, my mage is lv23, i was thinking if i would've use the codex belt, i'll be 24, but 25 just seems so unlikely, but im pretty close to cap without cheating and well, my dwarf commoner warrior is only 21 and i dont see how im going to pull her off without DLC

Modifié par kmujo, 03 décembre 2009 - 02:07 .

[Zentrasi]

The blood exploit remains untouched even after the patch for the PC version.. so I'm thinking Bioware chose to leave it in for those who want to just get to max level and then play around with skills.



Of course if you wanted to max out that way it would be much faster to just download the trainer that has been modded for the game that lets you create a level 25 character. Checks the projects section, or Dragon Age Nexus site for the trainer if you just want to play around with a maxed out character.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

There is a few others besides the blood exploit, a few seem to indicate the scripts for quest completion weren't properly written or tested leaving it open for people to exploit it.



As Zentrasi said, the fact these haven't been fixed yet would indicate they are clearly not high on the list for things to be fixed. I believe the phrase "let them eat cake" springs to mind, although Sten would probably say I was lying lol

[Filton_Kingswood]

Someone will mod the XP cap I would have thought, it's one of the first things folks do.

[CJohnJones]

My City Elf came a smidge away from 25. I had no idea that maximum Elfroot for the knife-ears would be considered a cheat. Actually, at the time I thought that I was making the army better and did not notice the experience at all. I gave a crapload of elfroot and all of my money, and I had been saving runes forever just because I imagined they would have a use. I had seen a hint about saving gems, so I saved all my gems of every kind. When it turned out the stumpies only needed some, I sold the rest and donated the money. I picked every lock and I think that I missed maybe 10 traps that we walked into instead of disarming.

Seriously, 1 random encounter would have done it, with no cheating unless you count the elfroot.I am almost tempted to go back to a reload and steal from the Dalish to make them hunt me.

Modifié par CJohnJones, 03 décembre 2009 - 03:33 .

[Ingahootz]

I got level 25 without "cheating" by doing turn ins with the redcliffe army (giving them 30 sovereigns from level 23-25).

You can very easily get lots of gold by making lots of Potent Lyrium pots and selling them to vendors. They sell for more than what the mats cost.

[Silensfurtim]

does maxing the level considered cheating by donating tons of items to the Allied Supply Crate? I hit lvl 25 that way before going to the final battle.

[Lord_Saulot]

I got level 25 because I would give supplies to the allies in camp. I thought that would improve my armies, but it just gave me experience instead. I got to 24 after the Landsmeet, and reached 25 in the endgame.

[saduo]

I gave random supplies to the forces in the camp, I didn't specifically go find any for them. I did all the side quests and areas that I could, started the final assault at level 20 or 21, ended at 23.

[Tonya777]

I'm attempting to get my rogue to lvl 25



I just brought Arl Eamon to Denerim an I'm lvl like 20 and a half



Still got almost every companions sidequest to do , the alienage required sidequests to do , the regular quests remaining in the game , shales DLC quest once the game is beaten



I honestly think I will reach lvl 25 on this character without cheating and when I do it I will definantley be posting about it

[Draconus Kahn]

Any idea if they'll raise the level cap in expansions?

[Sung Entune]

You know the game adapts to your characters level ya? If you're Level 1 or Level 25, the mobs you fight are going to be on equal terms for the most part. Some fights will seem much easier, mainly because you have a wider array of abilities, but then some fight seem nearly impossible as the mobs now have a wider array of abilities and damage potential as well. I've found leveling my chracter to 10-14 on the Ostragar quest and then going forward to be a very enjoyable way to play the game.

[Tonya777]

Actually thats a load of crap , sure you can SAY mobs scale with your character but can you prove it? The game becomes CLEARLY easier the higher lvl you get I notice , some things you get owned trying but come back later and its a joke , you can't tell me if you fought gaxkang at lvl 10 that it would be the cakewalk that it is at 20

[marshalleck]

Tonya777 wrote...

Actually thats a load of crap , sure you can SAY mobs scale with your character but can you prove it? The game becomes CLEARLY easier the higher lvl you get I notice , some things you get owned trying but come back later and its a joke , you can't tell me if you fought gaxkang at lvl 10 that it would be the cakewalk that it is at 20

This is all explained here, and yes there is scaling: http://dragonage.gul...allenge_scaling

more accurate than calling it scaling would be to call it gating, but yes, challenges will roughly scale to the player, just read it to understand

straight from a developer btw

Modifié par marshalleck, 04 décembre 2009 - 12:56 .

[Dasim4]

I just wish they had made it so you could do a second playthrough using the same character. With proper enemy scaling that would have been a lot of fun.

[Tonya777]

I am lvl 21 and have not even done the landsmeet yet

I assume that between the landsmeet , the alienage quests , the final bunch of sidequests that require the alienage , the personal quests (Wynne , Oghren , Shale , Alistar) I have yet to do and so forth , that I will be entering the endgame segment at lvl 23 or 24 or somewhere around that

By the time I finish that endgame segment I suspect that if I'm not yet lvl 25 then I will be able to push it the last few crums by doing shales personal quest that is ony doable after beating the game

I plan also to spend every bit of my characters remaining money on elfroots before going into castle redcliffe for the final battle to donate in the event that he does not reach lvl 25 even after doing LITERALLY everything

To my knowledge you can't do Shales personal quest untill after you beat the game but correct me if I'm wrong

Modifié par Tonya777, 04 décembre 2009 - 06:48 .