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[sp0ck 06]

Well said Cheez. I actually thought there was a lot to like concerning the endings, but they seem very incomplete and abrupt and I want some clarification and closure, hopefully in the form of actual gameplay. But I agree with your sentiments.

[Jat371]

Very nice, good rant.

[Dark_Rogue]

Very true. Nice one

[SovereignWillReturn]

Silasqtx wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
The Reapers CANNOT in any circumstance be defeated via conventional warfare. Standard rules of engagement and strategies do NOT apply.

Oh I don't know. They also said that no ship ever returned the Omega4 relay.

yeah, and you see Reapers get blown to bits by five shots in the space battle cutscene...

[BDelacroix]

RiouHotaru wrote...

While I completely understand your "There was no chance to challenge the Reapers face to face and prove to them that they were wrong, that we were stronger than they thought, that we were worth more than they gave us credit for." part, there's one HUGE problem with this.

The game pounds it into your head over and over and OVER again:

The Reapers CANNOT in any circumstance be defeated via conventional warfare. Standard rules of engagement and strategies do NOT apply.

How do you "prove you were stronger", when the means to do that won't work?

I once ran a D&D campaign where the "bad guy" had a sign on the door. "Danger: turn back".  The party actually didn't disregaurd the sign and turned back.  I was flabergasted that that ploy worked.

See my point here?

[WyntrKat]

BDelacroix wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

While I completely understand your "There was no chance to challenge the Reapers face to face and prove to them that they were wrong, that we were stronger than they thought, that we were worth more than they gave us credit for." part, there's one HUGE problem with this.

The game pounds it into your head over and over and OVER again:

The Reapers CANNOT in any circumstance be defeated via conventional warfare. Standard rules of engagement and strategies do NOT apply.

How do you "prove you were stronger", when the means to do that won't work?

I once ran a D&D campaign where the "bad guy" had a sign on the door. "Danger: turn back".  The party actually didn't disregaurd the sign and turned back.  I was flabergasted that that ploy worked.

See my point here?

lol, my day just got a little brighter. 

[AdmiralCheez]

Whoa dude. Last response was three hours ago. Thread's still alive.

*adjusts monocle* Most impressive.

[CroGamer002]

Cheez, just found pic of Mario saluting.




Now, I saluted you properly Cheez.

[Jonny_Sad]

wow..... just, wow....

[Reciever80]

That's one large post. Good read though, I agree with most of it. Felt ME2 wasn't so strong on lore, but huge with character development. If I hadn't 'killed' harbinger every 2 minutes, the game would have been sick.

[ioannisdenton]

i agree 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
and i ll bump this

[MakeMineMako]

Chronor wrote...

@pistolols

Wasn't it Garrus (or some other Turian) who said something to the effect of "I'm watching 15,000 years of civilization burn..."? Take a step back, and think about that for a moment. In our reality, do we humans have 15k years of recorded history and civilization to really reflect upon?

When I look at things from the above context, I have to strongly disagree with your assertion that "the (ME) galaxy" is not worth saving. That's one of the things that made this series of games so immersive and compelling. These rich civilizations have come so far, with or without the help of Reaper technology, that one would have to have absolutely no compassion or empathy to even think like that.

Not trying to bash Americans (seeing as how I'm one of them circa Asia), but perhaps some growing up in younger countries like the US may not have as much a connection or concern about the past. When I look at the cultural development and the rich history of European and Asian countries, I'm in awe at the richness of it all. To me, that's worth saving, not just for myself, but for everyone else in our little pip squeak of a planet called Earth.

Good point.

And for the record, I come from a part of the United States that is rich in history, culture, and lore. And I support efforts to preserve as much of it as possible.

The real problem with modern Americans in that regard is the short attention span in a fast paced age, and the onward march of the worst aspects of "progressivism". 

But our history and culture is what made us who we are, for better or for worse. And that is worth fighting for. 

[ForceXev]

My sentiments exactly, Cheez.

This post should be printed in large font, and taped onto every wall in the Bioware offices.

[MEGoWH777]

Nice to see your still around Cheez, good post! 

[sorentoft]

The only thing that rant lacks is a krogan headbutt. Else it is perfect.

[N7Gold]

RiouHotaru wrote...

How do you "prove you were stronger", when the means to do that won't work?

What Cheez meant is proving to the Reapers that no matter how "inevitable" the destruction of organic life is, Shepard and everyone else won't ever surrender to "fate". It's all about willpower. Just like my Shepard said when I played the game: "This bond that ties us together is something that the Reapers will never understand. Its more powerful than any weapon, stronger than any ship. It can't be taken or destroyed."

[Diablos2525]

Excellent post.

[Spectre-61]

Excellent post, Admira!

WE HOLD THE LINE!

[Seijin8]

Great stuff. /salute

[FSOAH]

bump

[TuringPoint]

One of the best posts regarding the ending. Respectful towards Bioware but still presenting honest feelings.

[CARL_DF90]

I sincerely hope they do take it to heart. Too many valid points to simply ignore, unless of course they are completely out of touch with the very lore, universe, and themes that they themselves have crafted over the years.

[mcneil_1]

I have to say 4 thumbs up and a round of applause for such a great post.