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[Jealous Beauty]

I was expecting mass seppuku.

[zarnk567]

avatar0 wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

The Smitchens wrote...

Arokel wrote...

Japan has a different taste in games than the west.

Come to think of it they have a different taste in many different types of things.

This, while not a one size fits all answer, sums up a lot.  You ever seen some of the games they play over there?

Yea..... some of my favorite game come from over there Final Fantasy 6, Persona 3, Metal Gear Solid series..... Yea those are some horrible games.... (sarcasm)

Those games are fantastic.
Still, western audiences have arguably never quite understood the populariy Raiden enjoys amongst the Japanese fans.

eh, never liked Raiden either....... Hated him in MGS2 and hated him MGS4

[sprintst]

To be frank I am glad when Japan doesn't like a game, it usually means it's more to my tastes

[The Smitchens]

zarnk567 wrote...

The Smitchens wrote...

Arokel wrote...

Japan has a different taste in games than the west.

Come to think of it they have a different taste in many different types of things.

This, while not a one size fits all answer, sums up a lot.  You ever seen some of the games they play over there?

Yea..... some of my favorite game come from over there Final Fantasy 6, Persona 3, Metal Gear Solid series..... Yea those are some horrible games.... (sarcasm)

Well I didn't call them horrible nor would I.  Anyone that grew up with gaming in the 80s has experienced an era of a Japan-dominated gaming industry, some of which are classics that set the bar for all of future games.  The games you've mentioned are just a few.  Not horrible.  Far from it.  Just very different.

[Gill Kaiser]

I wouldn't have expected Mass Effect to be popular in Japan. It's a very western type of game.

[tomcplotts]

streamlock wrote...

ME is just not Japan's cup of tea. I wouldn't read anything more then that into it.

Make Sheppard an angst-y teenager.
Give him huge crazy looking hair.
Make the female characters short, with preteen facial features, and where school girl outfits.
Stylize the graphics a bit.
Have the Normandy transform into a giant battle robot.
Have the combat revolve around robot Normandy.
Give shep a gun with a 3 meter bayonet.

And maybe, just maybe-it will sell.

Edit: Oh yeah, and you can't have the plot and narritive fall into lunacy during the last few minutes, it has to do this throughout the entire game.

Ha! POTD.

I think it's safe to say that the Japanese market places a high premium on incoherence and catholic school girl imagery. 

[MerchantGOL]

zarnk567 wrote...

Lmaoboat wrote...

I think Japan would have loved the ending.
http://tvtropes.org/...in/GainaxEnding

............He then changed it with a movie....... after reiceiving death threats from ALOT of people

then after said movie he recived more death threats 

[Legendaryred]

But ME3 looks more and more like a JRPG.

[kyban]

I noticed that a lot of people are saying that Western Games aren't popular in Japan. Yes, that's true and i wrote that in my first post.

I'm just saying that the statement to "Let the rest of the world play and finish" ME3 was a weak statement. The primary audience that this game was intended for has already played and beaten the game.

Just thought i'd share though. The site i linked also provides numbers for North America and European countries, so we can see how the sales do over time.

[kyban]

sprintst wrote...

To be frank I am glad when Japan doesn't like a game, it usually means it's more to my tastes

Respectable statement. Many of their popular trends do not suit my own. Although I do love their food.

[CasbynessPC]

MB957 wrote...

Nostradamoose wrote...

Nah, shooters are NOT popular in Japan.

Nor are our RPGs. So basically, they have got all the reasons in the world not to buy it.

Don't read too much in numbers from Japan

Im curious...what sort of video games are popular in japan?

Fantasy, especially high fantsy, swords, disney-crossed-with-Tolkien, aka Final Fantasy type games.

Eastern markets pretty much shun any warfare or FPS game. They don't like machine guns or blood splattering everywhere in the heat of battle. This even extends into any type of contemporary/urban style game. Their preferred games are pure escapism, with as little connection to the drudgery of real life as possible.

Obviously over-generalising, but for video games this is largely true.

[kyban]

CasbynessPC wrote...

MB957 wrote...

Nostradamoose wrote...

Nah, shooters are NOT popular in Japan.

Nor are our RPGs. So basically, they have got all the reasons in the world not to buy it.

Don't read too much in numbers from Japan

Im curious...what sort of video games are popular in japan?

Fantasy, especially high fantsy, swords, disney-crossed-with-Tolkien, aka Final Fantasy type games.

Eastern markets pretty much shun any warfare or FPS game. They don't like machine guns or blood splattering everywhere in the heat of battle. This even extends into any type of contemporary/urban style game. Their preferred games are pure escapism, with as little connection to the drudgery of real life as possible.

Obviously over-generalising, but for video games this is largely true.

They really love hand held games. Lots of their time is spent travelling, like subways, so they just pop out their games and play.
Just look at the number one selling games, its pokemon. Pokemon always sells like crazy.

[arthurhallam]

MJF JD wrote...

mass effect needs more little girls who make high pitched sounds

nah, the mass effect fan community makes up for that

[Alamar2078]

Well if BW waits for Japan to finish then most of our return periods will have expired Either way it's a good delay while they access their situation.

[Faded-Myth]

I'm waiting for some Japanese company to make a massively anime-style Mass Effect game, complete with grotesque exaggerations of the various characters. Wrex gets bigger. Thane gets poutier. Liara gets...bigger. Shepard gets more melodramatic and has severe emotional hangups about saving the galaxy. And at least one character would be miniaturized and chibi'd and flies around making crazy anime faces.

It would either be the best or worst thing ever. Possibly both.

[zarnk567]

Huh.... makes you wonder if they bash on us too in their threads about us.....

[Darklink2009]

Yeah, it's difficult for WRPGs and shooters to get much traction in Japan. That said, most JRPGs launch over here without much fanfare, even really good ones like Persona 4.

[GraciousCat]

Honestly, I wouldn't have expected it to sell well in Japan in the first place. I don't think North American/European response had anything to do with Japan's low sales numbers.

[GigaTheToast]

Xenophobia at it's finest folks!

[zarnk567]

GigaTheToast wrote...

Xenophobia at it's finest folks!

Yup, pretty much.....

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[noobcannon]

kyban wrote...

So I've been curious as to how ME3 was received in Japan, not just the ending but the game itself.

I was able to find Launch sales numbers: http://www.vgchartz....ly/40986/Japan/

The site updates a week behind, but you can clearly see that ME3 was not a top seller. It placed 19th overall for the PS3, and Xbox vesion made 22nd.
All this really tells me is that Western games still, for the most part, aren't very popular over there. Nor are games made on the Xbox (which is the original platform for ME).

To me this means that Japan, and countries in Asia, are in the minority. "Waiting for the rest of the world to play and finish" ME was some nonsense if you ask me. North America and the European countries are the majority, so we should have the loudest voice. And I think it's safe to say that we are not satisfied with the ending, we are not happy, and we are the majority. (Of the people who played and dislike the ending events)

week 1 sales


pokemon -               172,963

mass effect 3 -        8,414


lol

[viperabyss]

The outcry against the ending is not only limited to Europe and North America. I've read some forums in Taiwan, and gamers' responses have largely been negative regards to the ending. Obviously, the dissent isn't as bad as what we have in Europe and North America, but the message is indeed the same: the ending really sucked.

[hawkens982]

xbox isn't as popular over in japan compared to the ps3. I can say the ps3 version of ME3 is really crap in terms of performance currently, since I got both the xbox and ps3 versions. Maybe that played a part in poor sales, in addition to different tastes in games.

[humes spork]

streamlock wrote...

And maybe, just maybe-it will sell.

Vanguard Shepard would be an instant hit, especially if they just did a freeze frame and added motion lines around Shepard while s/he struck a ridiculous pose and screamed English word salad during biotic charge. In fact, english word salad would have to be screamed any time Shepard did anything. The Reapers would have to have boobs, too. And their Reaper-cannons would fire out of them.

Of course ME doesn't sell well in Japan. It doesn't have five minutes of running down a really well-rendered but completely sparse and linear corridor followed by thirty seconds of seizure-induced automatic combat and twenty minutes of nauseating "boku no nakama GANBATTE! tomodachi yo tomodachi yo IKE!" bull****.

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