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So is everyone on the Citadel just... dead?


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Let's see
Who was on the citadel that you wouldn't care about

Garrus' Dad and little Sister
Dr Michel or Chawkas
Oriana cause that's where Miranda takes her
Who else

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It's possible that a large number of people on the citadel survived.

1) The citadel was not over earth for that long, and the Reapers are not necessarily rapid in their harvesting.

2) When the citadel "blew up" it's likely that it didn't fall to Earth but rather just continued to orbit in multiple pieces. It was in geosnychronous orbit after all, plus Shepard wakes up alive which wouldn't be possible the citadel fell to earth.

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The_mango55 wrote...

It's possible that a large number of people on the citadel survived.

1) The citadel was not over earth for that long, and the Reapers are not necessarily rapid in their harvesting.

2) When the citadel "blew up" it's likely that it didn't fall to Earth but rather just continued to orbit in multiple pieces. It was in geosnychronous orbit after all, plus Shepard wakes up alive which wouldn't be possible the citadel fell to earth.


Someone mentionned life support. Even if the Citadel is in pieces floating around space and not completely destroyed, the only ones on board capable of breathing would be the Volus and the Quarians, because of their suits.

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Drum rolls...

* Crowd stands up in anticipation, remain silent whilst the drum rolls, some look at each others, wondering what might be revealed, the suspense is almost palpable... suddenly the curtains fall on the stage, the revelation is there to see for everyone... *

SPECULATION TIME PEEPS! Hell yeah!

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:wizard:

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Nyila wrote...

The_mango55 wrote...

It's possible that a large number of people on the citadel survived.

1) The citadel was not over earth for that long, and the Reapers are not necessarily rapid in their harvesting.

2) When the citadel "blew up" it's likely that it didn't fall to Earth but rather just continued to orbit in multiple pieces. It was in geosnychronous orbit after all, plus Shepard wakes up alive which wouldn't be possible the citadel fell to earth.


Someone mentionned life support. Even if the Citadel is in pieces floating around space and not completely destroyed, the only ones on board capable of breathing would be the Volus and the Quarians, because of their suits.


Obviously the keepers are still in there, doing their thing, fixing crap that breaks.

If the life support was gone Shepard would be dead long before he/she regains conciousness.

Modifié par The_mango55, 27 mars 2012 - 05:09 .


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The_mango55 wrote...

It's possible that a large number of people on the citadel survived.

1) The citadel was not over earth for that long, and the Reapers are not necessarily rapid in their harvesting.

2) When the citadel "blew up" it's likely that it didn't fall to Earth but rather just continued to orbit in multiple pieces. It was in geosnychronous orbit after all, plus Shepard wakes up alive which wouldn't be possible the citadel fell to earth.


You see multiple catastrophic explosions and power loss, the Citadel arms begin to move and buckle.
Given the huge explosion at the core the mass effect fields are most likely offline, which means it's going DOWN.

The Shepard breathing scene makes absolutely no sense in any context so can't be used as evidence.

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The_mango55 wrote...

Obviously the keepers are still in there, doing their thing, fixing crap that breaks.

If the life support was gone Shepard would be dead long before he/she regains conciousness.


Weren't we talking about after Shepard makes his/her RGB choice? :huh:

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The_mango55 wrote...

Nyila wrote...

The_mango55 wrote...

It's possible that a large number of people on the citadel survived.

1) The citadel was not over earth for that long, and the Reapers are not necessarily rapid in their harvesting.

2) When the citadel "blew up" it's likely that it didn't fall to Earth but rather just continued to orbit in multiple pieces. It was in geosnychronous orbit after all, plus Shepard wakes up alive which wouldn't be possible the citadel fell to earth.


Someone mentionned life support. Even if the Citadel is in pieces floating around space and not completely destroyed, the only ones on board capable of breathing would be the Volus and the Quarians, because of their suits.


Obviously the keepers are still in there, doing their thing, fixing crap that breaks.

If the life support was gone Shepard would be dead long before he/she regains conciousness.


Its plausible to assume even when the citadel blew up maybe the arms each have they own system that lets them keep life support and heck the keepers who knows maybe over time they fix the citadel with the aid of the fleets

But there is one fact many people keep forgetting, the citadel isnt destroyed in the control ending. It closes up but it doenst blow up. Heck when it comes to the control ending this comes to mind.

Image IPB

Also i know its been said that only a few people got out, but I believe that depending on how high your citadel war asset was then you had a better chance of getting more people out

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The_mango55 wrote...

Nyila wrote...

The_mango55 wrote...

It's possible that a large number of people on the citadel survived.

1) The citadel was not over earth for that long, and the Reapers are not necessarily rapid in their harvesting.

2) When the citadel "blew up" it's likely that it didn't fall to Earth but rather just continued to orbit in multiple pieces. It was in geosnychronous orbit after all, plus Shepard wakes up alive which wouldn't be possible the citadel fell to earth.


Someone mentionned life support. Even if the Citadel is in pieces floating around space and not completely destroyed, the only ones on board capable of breathing would be the Volus and the Quarians, because of their suits.


Obviously the keepers are still in there, doing their thing, fixing crap that breaks.

If the life support was gone Shepard would be dead long before he/she regains conciousness.


Not when the Citadel explodes (unless you choose the Control option).  Woo, Shepard commits genocide on the Keepers as well!  :o

I hope you had fun helping Conrad Verner, the Council, and everyone else you've ever met on the Citadel.  Because they're all dead now, regardless of what you did.

...Except for Aria of course, who needed to escape earlier on so we could get a Retake Omega DLC!

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Inspiring and uplifting isn't it?

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Didn't a Mac Walters tweet confirm this?

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nevar00 wrote...

Not when the Citadel explodes (unless you choose the Control option).  Woo, Shepard commits genocide on the Keepers as well!  :o

I hope you had fun helping Conrad Verner, the Council, and everyone else you've ever met on the Citadel.  Because they're all dead now, regardless of what you did.

...Except for Aria of course, who needed to escape earlier on so we could get a Retake Omega DLC!


In the destroy ending, Shepard was on the citadel.

Shepard wakes up, decidedly not smashed to atoms after crashing into earth or dead from asphyxiation.

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savaged49 wrote...

But there is one fact many people keep forgetting, the citadel isnt destroyed in the control ending. It closes up but it doenst blow up. Heck when it comes to the control ending this comes to mind.

Image IPB


Hahaha that's so full of win!!! :lol:

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Yeah, this is another reason I think the War Assets need dividing by type, and there needs to be some different variations based on the strength of each "type".

Personally, I think there are four noticeable "types" of war asset:
GROUND - which should determine the strength of the ground "hammer"forces, obviously.
FLEET - Determines the strength of the "Sword" and "Shield" fleets. (sub-option, SHIELD is divided from rest and determined specifically by the Geth/Quarian fleet strength)
CRUCIBLE - Determines the effectiveness of the crucible itself, based on scientists, engineers and unique research picked up by Shepard on the journey.
CITADEL - Determines strength of resistance on the Citadel when the Reapers take it.

As my calculations (current save file) go, the roughly estimated maximum for each division (Though they can be higher I'm sure, especially GROUND, with the promoted MP characters) is as follows:

GROUND - 2000
FLEET - 3000 - 3500
CRUCIBLE - 800-1000
CITADEL - 200 (if you include Spectres and a couple of other things)

You could easily create variable endings and end-games based on the individual strength of each force as the ending progressed. When Shep gets to the citadel to turn on the crucible, a high citadel score could result in running into C-Sec resistance trying to get survivors off, including the Council and various other tertiary characters . . .

EXCEPT THE ENDINGS NEGATE THIS COMPLEXITY SO WHATEVERS!

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A blown up Citadel is guaranteed to crash down on Earth. The energy imparted to the pieces breaking apart will cause the orbit to degrade and eventually result in an Earth impact.

So everyone on the Citadel is dead and every form of life on Earth is gonna die when the Citadel crashes down and kicks so much debris into the atmosphere sunlight is blocked for decades. Shep has turned genocide into an art form.

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Regardless of what he said on twitter, DLC can fix it >.>

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Ricvenart wrote...

Inspiring and uplifting isn't it?

Very!

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SpideyKnight wrote...

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Indoctrination theory says that shep hasent yet made it aboard the citadel. There are so many epic characters up there you know they are holding the line till support comes. I mean come on Zaeed, Jacob, Bailey, All of C-sec, Aria, Liara's matriarch dad just to name a few, they aint going down without a fight


Liara's father died in the Cerberus attack on the Citadel.  You overhear the bar owner talk about it.  That's all she's given, one lousy sentence that you don't even initiate, you just overhear.


Kelly dying that way was bad enough... Those side conversations are not enough.

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WarGriffin wrote...

Let's see
Who was on the citadel that you wouldn't care about

Garrus' Dad and little Sister
Dr Michel or Chawkas
Oriana cause that's where Miranda takes her
Who else


Honestly a lot of the conversations you can overhear with the result of LAWLUDED is just plain insulting.

Victorious and Uplifting my A**

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Depressing and Jarring.

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Vasparian wrote...

Why do people ask questions to which they already know the answers?


Drama, somthing to complain about and stuff

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Reptilian Rob

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Quietness wrote...

WarGriffin wrote...

Let's see
Who was on the citadel that you wouldn't care about

Garrus' Dad and little Sister
Dr Michel or Chawkas
Oriana cause that's where Miranda takes her
Who else


Honestly a lot of the conversations you can overhear with the result of LAWLUDED is just plain insulting.

Victorious and Uplifting my A**

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Depressing and Jarring.

Don't forget Conrad, Chellik, The Council and many more!

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Joy Sauce wrote...

Letting us know they're mostly dead through Twitter of all things. Way to throw fuel on the fire there, Mac.

I need in game confirmation not twitter.

That last conversation with liara about many people dying...who knew it'd get this bad...well javik did

Modifié par Dendio1, 27 mars 2012 - 07:45 .


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Dendio1 wrote...

Joy Sauce wrote...

Letting us know they're mostly dead through Twitter of all things. Way to throw fuel on the fire there, Mac.

I need in game confirmation, not twitter

Mac...

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Dendio1 wrote...

Joy Sauce wrote...

Letting us know they're mostly dead through Twitter of all things. Way to throw fuel on the fire there, Mac.

I need in game confirmation not twitter.

That last conversation with liara about many people dying...who knew it'd get this bad...well javik did


Is it surprising? they offed Emily Wong on twitter just to give us Melty Faced Snooky.

Modifié par Quietness, 27 mars 2012 - 07:47 .