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Lonewolfe2015

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Something I've come into a lot on Gold now that I've finally reached a point I can handle them well both with friends leveling up and my own equipment at level 10...

There usually comes once a game a point where your group got stuck somehow, someone got downed and then all of a sudden you get the cascading deaths as people try to revive the fallen comrade.

At what point (and what class) do you feel confident in letting them die and/or use a medi-gel (if it's random people you may not know what they have in stock) and run off rather than charge in to save them?

I tend to run Infiltrator a lot on Gold, I love using my Mantis 10 with Damage Mod 5 + Cloaked Headshot and I've let people die and took the long road of guerrilla warfare to finish off a round by myself. But I've also gone balls to the wall and thrown grenades, shot missiles and used sabotage combined with cloaking to try and revive groups of fallen comrades.

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KroganSmash

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I always go balls to the wall to save people with my krogan. Meleeing enemies left and right clearing a path, until a phantom come out of nowhere and eats me alive

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Havent tried gold yet but in silver if i think they can help ill attempt to pick them up as long as there is no fear of me being executed. if their dead weight i solo the wave . sometimes im forced to save them depending on the objective. ( i will always save them if its not a no win situation but sometimes its better to solo the risk wiping )

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Faelyia

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I think it really depends on the situation, If it is feasible of course I will save people. I will pretty much do whatever I can to save a match, whether it's medigel or a rocket fired at my feet to clear the immediate area. In my opinion, the best victories are the ones that you snatch from the jaws of defeat. However sometimes this is not always possible to save somebody and the best thing to do might be to retreat and get some distance. There's nothing worse than trying to save somebody but being taken down and executed in the attempt.

Modifié par Faelyia, 27 mars 2012 - 02:19 .


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PsychoWARD23

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Save, them, and if you both die, at least you'll know it was by doing the honorable thing.

/Turian

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Malanek

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It is a judgement call. When I first started I always tried to save everyone asap. That is a mistake that reasonably often led to everyone dying. Sometimes it is safer to finish off the wave by yourself (or with 1 or 2 others who are still alive). Much easier for an infiltrator to raise fallen squad mates safely of course. If things are time dependant, particularly the hack and hold the area, it tends to be more important to keep a full squad.

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KiraTsukasa

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If I'm playing infiltrator, I'll cloak, revive, flee. If I'm playing engineer, I'll drop my combat drone, revive, flee. Anything else, I'll try to revive from behind cover or try to clear the area before reviving.

I've also charged in to revive someone while following two krogan meleeing everything in range. It's rare to have two krogan that know how to rip things apart like that, but when you do, it's fun as hell to see and hear.

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Uchimura

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Depends on the location and class. If I'm on Infiltrator, I'm always going to try to res regardless, because it's so easy to avoid hits when cloaked. If I'm on my salarian engineer and there's an escape route, I have a pretty good chance of clearing the rest of the enemies myself.

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HKR148

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Not going to bother reviving some ass who got killed in the middle of 3~4 turrets and 2~3 phantoms shambling about with all that atlases and ****s in the background.

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iBRomano

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PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Save, them, and if you both die, at least you'll know it was by doing the honorable thing.

/Turian


You guys are just such a hard bunch to please. Nyuk nyuk ^_^

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Delta095

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It's simple. If people die because they're stupid, whether the area is clear or not, I ignore them.

If people who die constantly use up their medigel trying their best not to get revived by a teammate then when they are out and they die, I ignore them.

If I'm under fire by an enemy while I'm standing over the corpse, I don't revive them.

If the area's clear, the person is helping, and I don't hate them, I'll revive them.

If the person is a level 4 who sucks at the game, I ignore them.
Selfish, you may think but if the person is making no significant contribution whatsoever and can't do damage worth crap, I don't see why I should take time to revive them, let alone risk it.

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MrLoserpants

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I'll revive, flee, then see if I can shoot anything before they go down again.

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Yosuke

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There are too many factors to really say. It depends on the mission objectives, current wave, number/type of enemies remaining in said wave, location of the downed teammate, status of team as a whole, etc. For the most part, though, I revive if I feel that there's a reasonable chance of getting the teammate and not dying myself. Kill/neutralize as many enemies as you can on the way in (unless you're an infiltrator), then revive. I once saved two people from getting stomped to death with one stasis bubble, although in the end I only saved one because the other bled out.

I tend to take more risks saving people than I should, simply because so many people get their poor feelings hurt and quit when they bleed out.

Modifié par Yosuke, 27 mars 2012 - 02:43 .


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RonnyB

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If you've gone off on your own and died on the other side of the map I don't even consider it. If you stay near the squad I'll do my damnedest to get you up asap. If I'm playing random map and we get reactor we're probably all screwed because for some reason something about that map says "hey lets all spread out as much as possible and run around like chickens with our heads cut off."

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Broganisity

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As a Vanguard I do my best to rescue people because I'm stubborn that way, even if they aren't making a "Big Enough" contribution they are still contributing.

I've charged across Dagger on gold to resurrect an Asari (AKA person who sets up the explosions), sent everyone around their body stumbling or flying into the distance, got them up, then died in a blaze of glory while they escaped...so yeah they kinda ditched me there but it felt good knowing I got them out (especially since it was wave nine and we really needed that stasis bubble more than my charging.).

...So yeah, if I'm confident enough (or I've gone off and thought myself invincible. Come on, you all have.) I'll charge in and save them...of course if I'm not a Vanguard, Infiltrator, or Engineer I'll probably not get there in time but I'll do my darnedest to get to you.

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RogueMumei

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I've certainly never played in gold, but I usually try to revive. If there's a lot of enemies or a big enemy (like a banshee, ravager, prime, etc.) there, then I gotta try to kill them/it first so I don't die too. If they die before I kill them, sorry but I tried.

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ArkkAngel007

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If there is an objective and they, and therefore the enemy, are not within your zone of pain [aka on the other side of the map], complete the mission. Then grab your teammate.

However, if they are nearby, you leave no soldier behind. To the death.

Edit: Haven't played Gold in the retail version since I feel like I will be shunned for not having a mic, but considering you need every able body holding the horde at bay to actually have a snowball's chance of getting your objectives completed from my experience in the demo version, there should always be an effort made to pick up team mates who aren't trying to play lone wolf across the map with a triple entente of Geth Hunter, Prime, and Pyro.  While bleeding out. 

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 27 mars 2012 - 03:15 .


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Jerrod89

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Depends......I do if I can..but if Im just going to die to..you have to run or you screw ur team

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ShepardsIdol

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I almost always make a run to revive someone. and if nothing else ill lay some fire and distract the enemy surrounding the fallen while someone else can sneak in. if the squaddie is invaluable to survival i will risk getting myself killed to save them. i guess its like all of the previous posts depends on the situation.

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Serval-O

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I usually put threats in stasis and explode things until one of the inevitable infiltrators cloaks and revives them.

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Drummernate

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Geth do not intentionally go against cover while reviving...

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JShepppp

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I would always save them unless the following was the cause of their death (then I'd try to kill the enemies or just have to step back and wait it out):

1. Phantom
2. Geth Pyro
3. Brute
4. Atlas (up close)
5. Banshee
6. Turret

Basically, if I'm DEFINITELY going to die along the way or if it's pointless for me to try to help because I'd get myself killed, then I'll stay back.

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aimlessgun

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I've had to train myself to be less reckless about saving lost causes.

Also depends on how early in the round it is, and which round it is.

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Drummernate

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This platform never uses equipment unless it is time for "Overclocking"

Killing all of waves 7-10 by yourself makes you feel an adequate addition to your team.

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Lonewolfe2015

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Some good responses, though I feel you need to try Gold before you can truly see what a lost cause is in reviving someone. I can usually find a way to revive anyone on Silver or lower, whether they are surrounded by two Atlas or on the other side of the map.

So what has been the craziest (successful) revive you've had then? Maybe that one in retrospect you should have just finished the wave off on your own.